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progol Aug 23rd, 2022 10:17 AM

Late spring trip to Barcelona+Costa Brava & Basque region - feedback welcome!
 
I'm beginning to think about the Big Spring trip this year and am leaning toward a return to Spain. I’m seriously thinking of a trip to Barcelona+Costa Brava and the Basque region. We've visited Barcelona before but I'm eager to return; the Costa Brava area sounds better and better the more I read about it; and we are both eager to go to the Basque region. We’ve been to Andalucia/Toledo/Madrid and loved it.

Given the changeable weather in the Basque region, I’m considering going in the late spring – probably leaving the US around the mid or end of May to mid-June for about 4 weeks.

Other considerations: we are now mid-70s and (very) late 60s, so I'm trying to find the balance of keeping the trip manageable – that is, staying longer in fewer places, limited use of car, and not trying to see everything (something I struggle with!

We love a diverse experience – scenic views, history, art and culture. Walking – but not serious hiking. Walking along the Costa Brava camino sounds perfect!

We enjoy good meals but are not serious foodies, and are not big drinkers. I will have an occasional glass of wine, M might have an occasional beer, and I do love cider! But stopping in wineries are not our thing.

I’m looking at flight options and would ideally like to fly into BCN and out of Bilbao, although the flights leaving Bilbao depart around 7am, which is not a time we usually manage very well. We might end up flying R/T NY-BCN. But this is still early planning so I’ll see what happens in a couple of months.

Current itinerary thoughts (very much a work in progress):

Barcelona – 5
Cadaques -2 (pick up car when leaving Barcelona)
Costa Brava town -4/5 (Llafranc, Begur, or other in this stretch of the coast, preferably where we can easily leave for day trips)
Girona – 2/3


Flight to San Sebastian/Donostia (or Bilbao)

San Sebastian – 5? Day trips include Hondarribia ; St Jean de Luz and/or Bayonne
After San Sebastian, pick up car and drive either to
a) Laguardia (explore inland towns)
(OR)
b)Getaria – 2/3 nights.
Bilbao – 4 (Drop car)
Either fly back to BCN or fly home from Bilbao


The order of the first part of the trip depends upon what flights we get. If we have a nonstop flight, I’d start in Girona and then end that portion of the trip in Barcelona. I’m also considering eliminating Girona as a stop but just visit as a day trip, though I think we’d enjoy the city a lot.

Where I'm torn:
In the second part of the trip, I’m torn between traveling to Getaria or Laguardia. For the sake of keeping the trip manageable, I don’t know if we could do both, and logistically it seems a bit difficult. One consideration: we will have had a lot of coastal time by the time we leave SS, so Laguardia may make more sense, but the area around Getaria and the walk from there to Zumaia sounds very nice. But I thought traveling inland would be a good contrast, and Laguardia sounds like a lovely place to stop.
Or, is there a way to make both work? I'm trying to avoid having a car in San Sebastian.

I've also eliminated staying in the French Basque region but I would like to do a day trip to one of the towns from SS. Would St Jean de Luz or Bayonne be better, if we were to visit only one?

Recommendations and suggestions most welcome!!





HappyTrvlr Aug 23rd, 2022 10:44 AM

We spent several weeks in the Basque ( Pais Vasco) of Spain with two day trips into the French Pays Basque.
We stayed in Hondarribia most of the time for ease of having a car and the ability to combine the two Basque regions in Spain and France. Maribel has a home in the Spanish Basque region and she will be a huge help to you with your planning for this part of your tripWe used her Maribel’s Guides throughout our trip in Spain. I also asked her questions from time to time.
We visited Bilbao, Getaria, San Sebastián. Day trips to French Basque region,we drove to included pretty seaside St-Jean de Luz, and the charming small Basque towns in the foothills of the Pyrenees Saré ( Basque linens), Ascain, Ainhoa, Espelette and more! We loved these towns and a return stay there for several nights is on future wish lists.
You’ll see berets and espadrilles!
I highly recommend that you read the “ The Basque History of the World” by Mark Kurlansky before your trip to give you an understanding of the culture and history of these ancient people. It’s
very readable.
Costa Brava- We stayed in Begur which was a central location for exploring. We began our six week road trip in Lisbon, and ended it in Barcelona.We loved the French Mediterranean town of Collioure a short distance north of Spanish/French border.

jpie Aug 23rd, 2022 11:00 AM

We love to base in Roses, so closer to Barcelona than Begur. It has really nice flat walking areas and is relatively easy with a car, although we mostly just chose a hotel or apartment with parking near the coast, park the car and walk everywhere. It has a good variety of restaurant choices as well.

progol Aug 23rd, 2022 11:19 AM

Thanks, HappyTrvlr and pie! You guys are quick!

HappyTrvlr - believe me, I'm another big fan of Maribel's! She helped enormously on our recent trip to Portugal and I've used her guides for our earlier trip to Spain. I'm torn between the Hondarribia/San Sebastian decision. In my 2020 itinerary, I had planned to stay in Hondarribia, but the majority of folks both here on Fodor and on other travel boards say that for the first time, one should stay in SS. And it looks beautiful and a good place to be. Still, Hondarribia looks lovely, too. So I'm definitely more than a little confused about this decision. It's something I'll look at more carefully. Would you stay in Getaria over Laguardia?
Oh, and we will definitely get the book you suggest, though I'll wait until after our fall trip (Egypt and Jordan - don't want to get too confused culturally!).

jpie, I will definitely look more closely at Roses.

Thanks for the feedback! So helpful!

jpie Aug 24th, 2022 06:46 AM

In Roses we have stayed at a couple of places. One was the Hotel Marina, which is simple but nice. It has a parking garage which is why we chose it. It is on the quieter end of town near the Citadel, which tends to be the area we like the best. It is across from the beach and has some sea view rooms.

https://www.hotelmarina-roses.com/

I think the other property we stayed at was Hotel & Spa Terraza. It is on the other side of the Citadel Museum (whereas the Marina is between the Citadel and the little town center) in an area that is along a very nice beach boardwalk that goes towards the beach to the little city center area of Roses. The advantage of the neighborhood is that it is beachfront and sometimes less noisy than right in town. There are plenty of cafes ad restaurants within easy walking distance of both of these two properties and many more good choices of places to stay both for hotels and apartment type rentals.

https://www.hotelterraza.com/en

In any case we always love spending time in Roses!

bilboburgler Aug 24th, 2022 07:55 AM

Girona is a great place for cycling and walking, there is a long Vias Verdes https://www.viasverdes.com/en/ going inland from Girona that is well marked and pleasant walking

rialtogrl Aug 24th, 2022 08:24 AM

You can easily visit Getaria from San Sebastian - it might be a bit more interesting to stay somewhere completely different like Laguardia.

Michael Aug 24th, 2022 08:43 AM

Here's my 2018 trip report that includes time in Basque country. We had a car. We are in the same age category,

https://www.fodors.com/community/eur...018-a-1660084/

https://flic.kr/p/2a6dkrC https://flic.kr/p/2aax4qr
On the French side I recommend the La Rhune cog railway. La Rhune straddles the border between France and Spain.

https://flic.kr/p/a73YJP

progol Aug 24th, 2022 01:38 PM

jpie, thanks so much for those links! I’ll definitely keep them in mind when I’m starting to make reservations.

bilboburgler, thank you! That looks like a neat place in Girona and the site is wonderful, too. So many other good places to walk.

rialtogirl, Exactly! I think Laguardia might make for a good change of scenery (though I’m still taken by a stay in Getaria). Decisions, decisions…

Michael, I love your posts! I’ve been reading many of your reports and I love looking at your wonderful photos. So many fascinating and lovely places you’ve been and I only wish I could visit all of them! It’s going to take me a while to work out what we will be able to do. Fortunately, I have time, but I can’t. See how hard it will be to narrow it down.

KarenWoo Aug 24th, 2022 04:26 PM

Hi Progol,
Of all the places you are planning on visiting, I have only been to Barcelona and Costa Brava. We spent 3 nights in CB and rented a car. It was very easy driving. We spent 1 night in Cadaques and 2 nights in Girona. We loved both places, very different from each other, and I would recommend staying 2 or 3 nights in Girona instead of visiting as a day trip. It's a lovely medieval walled city and a river runs through it. I love places with rivers, so much atmosphere. I remember visiting a wonderful outdoor market and fell in love with olives!!! Before Girona, I was never a fan of olives. I envy you that you have so much time on CB. Our visit was much too short.

I know you are a meticulous planner but thought I would mention a few things. Keep in mind the road to Cadaques is over mountains and is very twisty and narrow. Make sure you are driving that road during daylight hours. If you plan on visiting Dali's house in Port Lligat, you have to make reservations at least a day in advance. It's small but very quirky! We loved Cap de Creus, a natural park with a lighthouse and beautiful scenery.

And, if you have the time, I recommend visiting Besalu, and then drive over the Eastern Catalan Pyrenees to visit Ripoll, Rupit, and Vic. The mountain scenery is stunning!

bilboburgler Aug 24th, 2022 11:22 PM

We were cycling when we toured from Girona to Toulouse, but we walked (pushed) our bikes over the French Spanish border, in doing so we found two sites of interest. An alter set up by Pompey (he who was counsul with Caeser) to celebrate recapturing Spain as the army left on what was then the main road. And a tiny fortress set up by the French to stop Spanish incursions along the same road (probably a suicide mission). The walking sans-bikes is pretty easy and the views are tremendous. The border is, of course, now meaningless. This funnel of people movement is historically very interesting as is the similar border on the Bay of Biscay. Think "Roland" and his horn.

progol Aug 25th, 2022 07:33 AM

KarenWoo, thank you so much for your suggestions! I hope to be able to visit Besalu, and now I'm intrigued by the drive over the eastern Pyrenees. Where were you coming from and going to and how did you decide the route? I would love to do something like this, though I also want to be mindful of not driving too much in any given day. But I would love to get at least a taste of the Pyrenees on this trip if we could. Oh, and I so relate to the experience with real olives! My intro to tasting fresh olives was in a market somewhere in Provence in 1992, and I still remember how amazed we were! It was a revelation that olives could be so good!

bilboburgler, I love those wonderful discoveries. Once, many, many moons ago, I took a bike trip with someone (pre-hubby) through Brittany, and loving the small discoveries along the way. I'm afraid the cycling days are long gone, but we can still walk, and anywhere we can have great views while we walk is a big plus in my book!


KarenWoo Aug 25th, 2022 12:18 PM

Progol, When we visited Besalu and the eastern Pyrenees, we were coming from Girona. Besalu is about an hour's drive from Girona. Then we continued on to Ripoll, our furthest destination, and from there we backtracked and visited Rupit and Vic. We then drove to Barcelona to stay overnight and flew home the next day. So we were able to accomplish all that in one day. I do remember leaving Girona early in the morning. In fact, we had breakfast in Besalu. I chose the route based on the guidebook(s) I used at the time. Can't find it right now. It's not in my bookcase. I may have donated it. This was in 2010. I typically use Lonely Planet, Fodors, Rick Steves, and Micheline Green Guide. I had a map of Spain, too.

magsrose Aug 25th, 2022 01:02 PM

Hello Progol, my friend and I are also planning a trip to Barcelona and Costa Brava next spring. You may have seen a couple of my posts about our itinerary. While we are a little younger (40ish), our travel preferences are similar to yours. We are renting a car and will have one home base in l'Escala, because we have access to a flat there through a family connection. Therefore, each day will be long day trips. But for discounted accommodations, we're happy to make that compromise. We'll also be in Cadaques and the stretch of coast south of there down to Tossa de Mar and some of the inland stuff like Figueres, Baix Emporda loop, and Girona. There is of course never enough time, but we will be heading to Mallorca afterwards. I'm going into it knowing that I'll be back another time. I hope you have the best time!
KarenWoo, I read your trip report and it was delightful. Thank you!

progol Aug 25th, 2022 02:24 PM

KarenWoo, thanks so much! The more I look at the towns in the eastern Pyrenees, the more charmed I am by them. Now I would like to include a day drive. The region just has so many interesting places, and I’m really going to find it hard to narrow the trip down! By the way, did you do a report for this trip? I didn’t see one (and I was eager to read all the wonderful details of the trip, as I know and like your travel style, too!).

magsrose, yes, I did see you were planning to go, too. It sounds like it’ll be a wonderful trip! I had initially thought of going to Mallorca, but the more I read about the Costa Brava, the more it made more sense to focus on it instead.

KarenWoo Aug 25th, 2022 03:31 PM

Progol, when we visited Barcelona and Costa Brava in 2010, my screen name at the time was kwoo. So you'll have to search for it under that name. I think several years after that trip, I was changing my password for some reason, and I inadvertently changed my screen name and never bothered to change it back.

KarenWoo Aug 25th, 2022 03:43 PM

Progol, I found my report but for some reason I am unable to copy and paste the link. You can click on 'Search' at the very top. Enter "Barcelona and Costa Brava Trip Report by kwoo".

progol Aug 25th, 2022 04:09 PM

Karen, thank you! I had searched for a trip report from you but didn’t see any; early posts are sometimes hard to find. I’m glad I found it; I’ve gotten so much from reading your reports! I just started reading it - what an awful beginning to the trip in Barcelona! I’m glad you were able to have such a wonderful trip after your experience having your backpack taken at the hotel. I look forward to reading the rest - I know it will only get better.

HappyTrvlr Aug 25th, 2022 04:56 PM

progal, of course we visited San Sebastián too but thought it would be easier with the car to stay in Hondarribia. Although described as a fishing village, Hondarribia has a population of over 10,000. Lots of choices in dining and hotels. We were supposed to go to San Sebastián a few years ago but our flights were canceled and we couldn’t fit it in. We drove from Hondarribia to the French Mediterranean coast via the north side of the Pyrenees. Stopping overnight in several towns in the mountains was interesting. Then Collioure, France( loved it) to Costa Brava for a few days , then to Barcelona. Started in Lisbon, ended in Barcelona. Favorite parts were Portugal, Santiago de Compostela, Asturias,Cantabria, and Basque region,

progol Aug 25th, 2022 05:19 PM

HappyTrvlr, it’s a bit of a tossup which to stay in so we’ll have a lot to think about when we fine tune the itinerary. As I mentioned, I had initially planned to stay in Hondarribia 2 1/2 years ago, though I’m still leaning toward SS for this trip. And of course it will all depend upon how the entire trip falls together. There are now so many options! And it all sounds wonderful. Narrowing it down will be tough.

We were in Collioure in 2004 - loved it, too! Those long driving trips, I think, are a thing of the past, though. We’re definitely not moving at the pace we used to! And I’m still trying to do and see a lot.

mammyu Aug 26th, 2022 08:40 AM

My husband and I did this trip in 2018 and thought Cadaques was fantastic. The museum in Bilbao was wonderful. Learning about Dali was entertaining and we came home with an awesome picture of the two of us popping out of an oversized egg. It made the Christmas card. Between Cadaques and Barcelona we took a cheap flight to Menorca and poked around there. It was gorgeous.

progol Aug 26th, 2022 10:15 AM

mammyu, thank you! There are sooo many places to see - the more I read, the more places I want to go! I’ll just have to shut my eyes at the mention of Menorca…😉

The photo you took sounds like a hoot - I’ll have to remind my husband about this when we get there!

mikelg Aug 28th, 2022 12:22 AM

Answering as a Basque local:

San Sebastian – 5? Day trips include Hondarribia ; St Jean de Luz and/or Bayonne

After San Sebastian, pick up car and drive either to
a) Laguardia (explore inland towns) that´s Rioja Alavesa, the Basque part of the Rioja DOC wine region, an almost two hour drive, much better from Bilbao (one hour drive)
(OR)
b)Getaria – 2/3 nights.I would spend just the day in Getaria, it´s a very small town and so close to San Sebastian that you can also visit it from there.
Bilbao – 4 (Drop car)
Either fly back to BCN or fly home from Bilbao

progol Aug 28th, 2022 02:57 AM

mikelg,
Thanks so much! I was hoping you’d add your comments! And very helpful - as I refine the trip, I’ll plan on the Rioja Alavesa in the itinerary. It was what I was leaning toward as a contrast to the earlier part of the trip, but it’s always hard to narrow things down when it all sounds lovely.


mikelg Aug 29th, 2022 03:28 AM

Rioja Alavesa is a very different part of the Basque Country, with medieval style towns and vineyards everywhere, with wineries that have cellars dating back as early as the 14th century. Try to avoid visiting the big names...very touristy and in big groups, if you need suggestions on what wineries are more interesting, please just ask!

progol Aug 29th, 2022 04:12 AM

mikelg,
Many thanks! I’ll definitely be asking for more specifics when our trip gets more refined.

Much as I love wine, it doesn’t love me, so wineries are not a focus - though I do love cider. But I love charming, medieval towns and scenic views, so I’m sure we’ll have plenty to see and do.

rialtogrl Aug 29th, 2022 04:19 AM

progol, if it is cider you love, do some research (if you have not already) on the cider houses in San Sebastian.


mikelg Aug 29th, 2022 04:31 AM

Cider in the Basque Country and other regions in northern Spain (Asturias, mainly) is not carbonated and it´s not sweet. It´s the purest form of cider: just fermented apple juice (almost 6% alcohol), that is served either from the bottle (but holding it high so the cider breaks into the glass) or from the barrels at cider farms, mainly around the area of Donostia-San Sebastian (but also in other places in the Basque Country). Cider season starts in January and ends in May, although most cider farms will stay open all year round.

progol Aug 29th, 2022 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by rialtogrl (Post 17394950)
progol, if it is cider you love, do some research (if you have not already) on the cider houses in San Sebastian.

Thanks, I definitely will. I read a little bit about them but have not really researched them. Added to my list!

Maribel Sep 18th, 2022 05:19 PM

progol,
Sorry I'm so late to this thread! But mikelg, Karen, Michael, rialtogrl and others have given you some great ideas.
I'll just comment on your original plan--

Fly into Barcelona and stay for 5 nights--
perfect

Pick up car and drive to Cadaqués--
will take about 3+ hours from a car rental agency at Sants station with a morning 10 am departure.
The drive from Roses (not personally a big fan of Roses as I find it less charming and built up) up to blindingly white Greek island looking Cadaqués, as Karen says, is non-stop curves, very sinuous, slow going but not dangerous. I would perhaps avoid the drive on a Friday, as it's a popular weekend destination for Barcelona residents but in May it won't be crowded as it is in July-August. I wouldn't stay more than 2 nights since it's quite isolated and not handy for exploring except for walks on the Cap de Creus.

Northern Costa Brava perch--
I love both Begur (Hotel Aiguablava & Parador have sea views to die for, Hotel Aiguaclara in town is charming but no sea views) and Llafranc (Hotel Llafranc, Llevant and Terramar directly face the sea promenade). I would choose whichever lodging you find more charming and that would fit your budget. I know them well. I've written an updated Costa Brava guide that I'll attach in another post. Sooooooooo many wonderful day trips to delightful medieval villages of Pals, Peratallada, Monells, Ullastret (Iberic settlement), Palau-Sator. I promise you'll love the Baix Empordà countryside that some locals call "the little Tuscany".

Mallorca or Costa Brava?---
Please choose the latter! We started our summer Spain sojourn with a 2-week Mallorca stay and frankly were mostly underwhelmed, even though we did enjoy our week in the Tramontana (Deiá, Pollensa, Sóller), which would be mostly quiet in early May. Menorca is a different kettle of fish.

Girona--
I agree with Karen that it merits 2 nights at least, if possible, as a day trip just doesn't quite do it justice, although it's possible from Begur/Llafranc. We used Girona as a base to explore the lush Garrotxa extinct volcanic region and its highlight, Besalú, and also Santa Pau. Wonderful Rupit would be a further drive that you probably wouldn't have time for, as I remember you don't want to spend your entire day driving, and some Catalonian Pyrenees drives can be challenging/time consuming, ime. We visited Rupit and equally delightful Tavernet from Vic.

Fly to San Sebastián--
We take the afternoon Vueling flight to SS (airport to Hondarribia) to avoid the 7 am departure.
Without a car in SS? Day trips from SS to Hondarribia by bus, to St-Jean-de-Luz by Euskotrain to Hendaye then bus or train to SJdL. Bayonne, which I love and has a lovely Basque Ethnographic Museum and cathedral would be by bus. In May, I would choose Bayonne as St-Jean-de-Luz will be quiet and not as much fun and both have the same great shopping for handicrafts--same shops.. A trip to a cider house, one super authentic that opens only during cider season, is a real treat, and we love Astarte, the real deal, in Astigarraga (a public bus will get you there).
I know you're torn between SS & Hondarribia, but for a first timer, most would want to experience SS. That said, SS lodging prices are sky high this year (ouch!) and without a car you can't explore the picture perfect inland villages mentioned by HappyT. Hondarribia has the advantage of being a bit closer to the border, a bit cheaper, and you could have a car to explore the Pays Basque, which would be ideal. (We were just there in late July)

Getaria or Laguardia?---
Hard choice! In July we spent 5 nights in each--why? because we love them both!! The views from our private terrace at the lovely Hotel San Prudenzio in Getaria in the well-priced jr suite were mesmerizing and breakfasts phenomenal, plus truly lovely hosts. We walked from Getaria to Zarautz and took a very informative 2-hour boat ride to see the flysch from Zumaia. Gorgeous countryside and Getaria has charming places to have pintxos and amazing seafood. But yes, you can enjoy it in a day trip, as we had done many times in the past. Our main reason for Getaria was to avoid the astronomical lodging prices in SS in July. We had a car but the bus from SS to Getaria is easy.

A stay in Laguardia is most often used for wine touring as it's the quintessential wine town of the Rioja Alavesa. But I know that wine touring for both of you is much less of a draw. However, there are monasteries to visit (Yuso, Suso, Cañas, Santa Maria la Real in Nájera) and the Camino town of Santo Domingo de la Calzada, but they do require driving. But also, Laguardia is also surrounded by dolmens, a fascinating "cementerio ateo", an Iron Age settlement of Poblado La Hoya, one can bike through the vineyards, the views are spectacular any time of year, and it has charming lodgings (but those inside the walls like the Hospedería Los Parajes, require parking in the public lots outside of the village and schelping luggage. The wine hotel of Eguren Ugarte just outside of town has splendid vineyard views from its rooms and makes for an easy in-and-out for day touring..
You could take a day trip from Bilbao to Laguardia as a way to fit in this walled medieval village if you decide to stay on the coast. Laguardia is just too far a drive from SS for a memorable day trip. Mikelg does this regularly from Bilbao. I do have a ridiculously looooooong Rioja guide with more touring ideas, if you need it.

Again, sorry that I've been awol and missed this very informative thread! I could talk about your proposed destinations forever!:)

progol Sep 19th, 2022 10:36 AM

Maribel, thank you! And yes, you know that I missed you, so it’s great to see you are back! Your suggestions are much appreciated and I’ve already been studying your guides! Im especially focused on the Costa Brava one (updated!) so have been mulling over the options there.

Our spring trip will really be finalized after we return from our fall trip, and right now, Spain has me hooked, though I’m not sure if M is quite as into the plan as I am.

But I did come up with a variation of my initial itinerary which I really like.Taking the train seems like a great way to travel; otherwise we have to get from,Girona to the airport, and it looks like we could get the train in Girona.

BCN - 5
Costa Brava -4/5
Cadaques -1
Girona-3
Train to
Zaragoza - 2/3
Train to Logroño, pick up car
Laguardia - 3
SS/Hondarribia-3/4
Bilbao -3/4
Fly home from Bilbao or return to BCN for flight home.

Lots more questions but unless and until we’re definitely going, I’ll leave questions alone!

Maribel Sep 19th, 2022 10:55 AM

Hi progol,
Very, very glad to know that Spain has you hooked!:tu: Now we just have to get M hooked as well! :)

About your variation--
I like it.
Unless you do want to do some hiking in the windswept Cap de Creus, I think one night in Cadaqués may be enough given its isolation (but I felt that way about just your 1 night in Marvão, which I know you loved!).
I like your move from Barcelona directly to a perch on the Costa Brava to relax and use as a base before going on north to Cadaqués. And the distance from Cadaqués back to Girona won't be as long a drive.

Zaragoza I would probably give just 2 nights. It does have an old quarter with very interesting mudéjar architecture plus the Basílica del Pilar but I think your sightseeing there could be accomplished in one full day. Then after 2 nights, on to Logroño by train. There's a comfortable Alvia at 10:48 that only takes 1 hr. 53 min.
The drive from the Logroño rail station to Laguardia will only take a half hour. After you pass the CUNE Viña Real winery on your left (looks like a giant wine barrel), the scenery becomes spectacular.

The rest sounds great!

Vonse Sep 19th, 2022 12:51 PM

Hi Progol -

We just returned from Paris, San Sebastian, Llafranc on the Costa Brava and Barcelona.

San Sebastian in early September was vastly different from our May trip 9 years ago. Both times we stayed at Hotel Londres in a sea view room and were quite happy there. We had 4 nights there this time. We had planned to rent a car to see the Basque countryside that we missed last time, but decided against it because the weather was so hot and we were just not up to it. Our days were spent exploring the town, walking the promenade to Mount Igueldo and the Antigua neighborhood (gorgeous homes), lounging on the beach, exploring old town and of course eating. We followed Maribel's recommendations (thank you, Maribel!) and enjoyed Casa Urola (scallops in a light cream sauce and ham croquetts), Bar Nestor (ask your hotel to reserve the sole table, mesa no. 19 and order tomato salad, peppers and steak), Gambara (order one of everything), and many other pinxto bars whose names I can't recall. It was relaxing, but I found San Sebastian too crowded and touristy at this time of year. I much preferred it when we visited in May and took the bus or train to see Hondarribia, Getaria, and St. Jean de luz.

We flew from EAS (San Sebastian airport) to Barcelona, picked up a car at the airport and drove to Hotel Llevant in Llafranc, which we learned has been sold. We picked Llafranc and this hotel based on Maribel's wonderful recommendations in response to my inquiry on Tripadvisor and her updated 2022 guide to the Costa Brava.

Hotel Llafranc is modest, but we had a room with a lovely sea view and were very comfortable. We fell in love with Llafranc and the hotel the moment we arrived. My husband was reluctant to travel (I think he was out of practice) and I was desperate for a place to unwind, smell the salty air, and basically do nothing to exercise my brain other than taking easy walks, sitting on restaurant terraces, people watching and lounging on the beach. Llafranc during the second week of September was absolutely perfect. The weather was warm and although the town and beach were lively, it never felt too crowded or touristy or loud. We easily rented sun loungers and umbrellas and got seated at restaurants. Our favorite was La Llogosta (very popular so best to reserve - must order the scallops grilled in their shells and the red shrimp from Palamos). We ate at La Blanca at the hotel, but the service was painfully slow and the food was just ok. There are only a few hotels in town and according to a member of the family who owns the hotel, most people had second homes there.

We only had 5 nights and I had planned for a number of the day trips that Maribel recommended, but we only made it to Begur because we couldn't tear ourselves away from Llafranc. We tried to visit Aiguablava on our way back from Begur, but arrived too late in the day to find parking. Still, the drive along the coast from Begur to Llafranc was stunning. The coastal walk to Callela de Palafrugell is also lovely and a nice thing to do in the mornings, but I much preferred Llafranc and its beach to Callela. I think going in May would be quite different and more conducive to exploring. Still, I'm already planning my next trip to Llafranc in September 2024 and will stay for 10 days to allow for the day trips listed in this thread. I'd also love to rent a boat to explore the coastline.
- Leslie

Maribel Sep 19th, 2022 12:58 PM

Wow, Vonse, what a great trip report! Thanks so much for sharing your experiences!
We too prefer Llafranc to Calella and happy to know that you want to return!

progol Sep 19th, 2022 01:17 PM

Leslie, thank you! This is SO helpful and I thank you so very much for posting this. Llafranc sounds like a perfect place - another Fodorite, @alison, stayed in Llafranc a few years ago and also loved it. You’ve sold me and I can see us enjoying a stay there,too.

We will work more on an itinerary after our upcoming trip but thank you again for this!

Maribel, thank you, too, for the feedback on my earlier post. We loved the Mudejar architecture on our earlier trip so I hope to get to Zaragoza but it does sound like 2 nights would be enough.

It all sounds wonderful!


Maribel Sep 20th, 2022 12:48 PM

progol,
If you could plan your dates for a possible stay in delightful Girona sometime between May 13-21, 2023 you can be there during the flower festival, the Temps de Flors, which would be something very unique and certainly colorful---especially for such talented photographers and you and M!

https://tempsdeflors-girona-cat.tran..._x_tr_hl=en-US


progol Sep 21st, 2022 03:11 AM

Maribel,
I had read about the Temps de Flora, and it does look like fun! My big concern, though, would be the crowds. We actually were in Cordoba for the flower festival in 2015 and found the lines to enter the various sights too long to fully enjoy them. The nature of the displays in Girona does look different, but I’d actually considered avoiding the festival in Girona because of this.

Maribel Sep 21st, 2022 06:42 AM

progol,
That's a good point, of course, and the festival does get crowded especially on the final weekend.


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