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francophile03 Jul 7th, 2004 07:28 PM

I really don't know what Lance Armstrong's personal life has to do with the Tour de France. His athletic talent and his personal life are two different things.

giro Jul 7th, 2004 09:46 PM

I have read that the "new" time trial rules were used before in 1984.
My sense is that the governing body of the Tour is not necessarily out to get any one rider; but they want to make the race as competitive as possible. If there is a sense that one rider, such as Armstrong, is surrounded by a team that is the equivalent of the New York Yankees of cycling, then the tour will try to negate the "free spending" American team to make sure that the team time trial wont be the determing factor.
The rule may also recognize that US Postal is built for one specific tour, while the other teams are obligated to perform well at the other grand tours and also at the classics.

mgmargate Jul 8th, 2004 02:02 AM

Giro:To all the other teams(european)this is their national sport.They have access to as much money &technology or more than U.S.Postal. They are just getting beat and are trying to prevent an American from setting a record for the ages.

BTilke Jul 8th, 2004 02:35 AM

If Lance and team take home the trophy again, hopefully "going postal" will take on a new, more positive meaning!

Grasshopper Jul 8th, 2004 06:17 AM

BT, not for long. This is USPostals last year of sponsorship. Next year the lead sponsor will be the Discovery Network.

Dr_DoGood Jul 8th, 2004 08:49 AM

mgmargate - where do you get the idea that cycling is the "national sport" of european countries.

I'm trying desperately hard to think of one but I think, without exception, the national sport of all european countries is football.

Cycling has to compete in a very crowded sporting sponsorship market over here just as in the US.

That's not to say the USPostal team has any advantage - I doubt whether it does - but I strongly doubt that this year's rule change has anything to do with Lance Armstrong and a sixth yellow jersey win. That just sounds like so much American paranoia and does LA a disservice.

Dr D.

cigalechanta Jul 8th, 2004 09:06 AM

It was wonderful to see Chartres from an aerial view.

Grasshopper Jul 8th, 2004 09:14 AM

Mimi, Isn't it great? It's so much fun watching the scenery.

mgmargate Jul 8th, 2004 09:19 AM

Dr: Soccer and biking are the 2 most popular sports in western Europe and biking is surely the most popular sport in France.It is like trying to choose between football and baseball in the U.S.. As far as the new rule this year COME ON,it is aimed directly at Lance.To deny this is partisan.

mgmargate Jul 8th, 2004 09:21 AM

Ciga: If you haven't seen Chartre in person it is even better up close. The stained glass is really something.If you've been there than you know what I mean.

job816_2 Jul 8th, 2004 09:41 AM

Whether or not the ruling is aimed at Lance, he and Postal are up to the greater challenge it might present. And no matter what more Americans are taking interest in this exciting and challenging sport. I have been into it for the last 6 years due to my husband's obsession and half the fun has been watching this international sport grow here in the states both due to our own competitions and those abroad.


cigalechanta Jul 8th, 2004 09:54 AM

Thanks I have seen it,mgm,and know what you mean.
Sauterelle, wish we were there.

Underhill Jul 8th, 2004 02:43 PM

We got hooked on bicycle racing from watching the scenery on last year's Tour. That's all it took. I just wish there was a little more note taken of some of the spectacular areas and buildings shown so we don't have to guess.

On the BBC today I heard an American reporter interviewing a tailor-to-the-presidents. The tailor's name is Georges de Paris, and the journalist pronounded the "de" just the way Bob Roll does with Tour DAY France.

Grasshopper Jul 8th, 2004 04:07 PM

Mimi, I'll be in Paris next week! Shall I bring you anything?

cigalechanta Jul 8th, 2004 04:20 PM

Oh, I hope you'll bring me news that you fell in love with a Frenchman.
Have a wonderful trip. We are not going to Paris but to France in August

giro Jul 8th, 2004 05:52 PM

mgmgarate: I rest on my previous posting. if it sooo important to you that an American beats the Europeans at their own game then that is your deficiency! (I hardly would characterize it as patriotism!).

cigalechanta Jul 8th, 2004 05:55 PM

I say, let's appreciate the best man to win honstly in all sports all over the world. Let us all be good sports, right giro?

mgmargate Jul 9th, 2004 02:12 AM

giro: You don't get it.It has nothing to do with me .It is about integrity and sportsmanship.It appears very important to you that we believe there is nothing phony about the rules change.If anyone is being partisan try looking in the mirror.What is important in my life is family. And in business it is absolute integrity and straight talk,not politically correct nonsense.

Austin Jul 9th, 2004 04:28 AM

VIVA LA LANCE!!!!

giro Jul 9th, 2004 06:13 AM

The rules are the rules! The rules were set before the tour. If you don't like the rules, don't play! Integrity is important and that is why the rules were set BEFORE the tour and not in the middle of it. So let's be sports and see who wins WITHIN the rules.


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