<i><font color=#555555>"Nobody cares what you wear anymore."</font></i>

Perhaps that explains why Ralph Lauren has taken to raising pasture-grazed, hormone-free Angus beef on his 17,000-acre Double RL Ranch in Ridgway, Colorado. Some of the best steak I have ever eaten. Status in NYC can be determined by how many RL Rib Eyes you have in your freezer. I'm down to six. Anyone interested in dinner? No short sleeves, though. :-)

Sam Walton was rich too - doesn't make Walmart fashionable.

Dress shirts with short sleeves are very common in Europe.

On the Côte d'Azur in September it will be very warm. With long sleeves your husband will stand out and look ridiculous. Short sleeves in Paris will be okay too.

traveller, yes they are common, but are they "dress shirts"?

According to this definition (it is the American definition, I assume):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dress_shirt

I have such shirts, tailor-made. They are like the ones which are worn under business suits, just with short sleeves. In the last years, many business people have started to wear them under their suits in summer.

Off-business, I personally prefer polo shirts which I consider more comfortable and more agreeable if you may be transpirating a bit (sorry, often unavoidable when travelling in summer).

Jeeves would have died of shame

I wear linen shirts (full sleeves)

wiki is some sort of popular generally edited data base, not a source of such information

:-)
tongue firmly in cheek

I think I am in love with NYCFoodSnob. I would even wear long-sleeved shirts to cover up my tattoos if they offended her.

I know that it takes place on the other coast, but I see a future for NYCFS on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills."

I also am fond of the Snob - haughty wit has always pleased me and there's really not enough around lately. Does anyone remember my_kingdom (or some name like it)?

Oh yes, m_kingdom. The person who was anti-"banding"

Since this thread, like most fashion threads, wears thin, I hope the OP doesn't mind a slight hi-jack.

Speaking of beauty, not, I just noticed that Vogue has the desperate-for-sales audacity to put Amy Schumer on its cover this month. Granted, July is a very off month for Vogue – very little advertising – but still. Amy Schumer?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm a fan. I think she's brilliantly talented. But she's not a beauty, no matter how healthy her self-esteem. On top of that, Vogue retouched her face and neck into another solar system, completely changing her body into four sizes smaller, which is what they typically do for non-model celebrities. What a joke.

So you see, anything passes for beauty and style these days. Nobody takes this stuff seriously anymore. Too much trash and fakery passing as legit. Shame on Vogue.

<i><font color=#555555>"I see a future for NYCFS on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.""</font></i>

I think Andy Cohen should be stripped naked and tarred and feathered in Times Square. IMO, he is singularly responsible for promoting abject misogyny to the masses with the creation of his "Housewives" shows. Never have I seen more repulsive television, while that gay twit is laughing all the way to the bank. There is not one woman on any of those shows who is worthy of my attention and admiration. They are all fake, self-absorbed, over-produced drag queen impersonators. And they have Andy Cohen to thank for promoting such hatred.

<i><font color=#555555>"Does anyone remember my_kingdom"</font></i>

I don't mind compliments, thank you all, but comparing me to m_kingdom? I'm the real deal. Who knows what that one was?

Here is some great fashion advice on what to wear in France, from m_kingdom. From 2004, but style never goes out of fashion :-)

http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...-suit---ok.cfm

"shes not a beauty"

To you .

On one hand putting down some show producer as being a misogynistic in his portrayal of women.. then putting down a magazine for using a woman you decide is not beautiful because she weights more then an anorexic model.
Baffling world you live in...

<I'll let him decide on the black shoes or more casual brown loafers.>

If he's not bringing a jacket or dress clothes there's definitely no reason for black dress shoes. They take up a lot of room in the suitcase, and you (well he) won't wear them.

<i><font color=#555555>"…then putting down a magazine for using a woman you decide is not beautiful because she weights more then an anorexic model"</font></i>

justineparis, your troll behavior is really tiresome. Your ignorance even more so. I don't have time or interest in educating you.

Once again you play the same tired troll game. I never said Amy Schumer wasn't beautiful. I said she's not Vogue Cover beautiful, there's a HUGE difference.

Every singer who auditioned for American Idol insisted they could sing. <b>Insisted.</b> Well, guess what, 99.9% were delusional because the judges, industry gatekeepers, said no they can't.

Also, I never mentioned anorexic models. FYI, anorexia in modeling is a negative stereotype. The vast majority of female models eat without worry. Anorexia is a serious medical condition, and if you ever saw a true anorexic, perhaps you would be intelligent enough, sensitive enough to not use the term so casually and with such derogation.

My opinion on magazine cover beauty isn't just about me. I work with the gatekeepers, and I know their rules. If Amy Schumer weren't a popular, successful film star, there is NO WAY she would ever be featured on the cover of Vogue.

My world is only baffling to someone like you: a simple-minded troll who loves Paris. Yippity-do.

<Many women with ugly, chubby arms dare to wear short sleeves in public. The worst offenders are the women who stuff their rounded, bulbous arms into a cap sleeve. This fashion disaster is downright ugly. And some of these women work in television. >

Are those your legs in your profile pic, Snobbie? Because...

Well I think Vogue should stick to having models on their front cover. I stopped being a regular Vogue reader when they became obsessed with having celebrities on their cover.

If I want to see celebrities there are any number of magazines that cater to that, I look at magazines like Vogue for fashion.

NewbE, you're about as useless as justineparis. Some of you girls are unbelievably catty and nasty. One might think, based on your writing here, that you lead absolutely miserable lives.

It's no secret on this board. I'm nearly six feet tall in heels, and I kickbox. The jpeg in my Fodor's profile is under 200 x 200ppi. If you had half a brain and knew anything about jpeg compression, you wouldn't make such a bitchy comment about my long, shapely legs as they appear on my stupid profile photo.

I could have pulled my coat up further to elongate – that's certainly what the photographer wanted – but I thought enough is enough. I don't show coochie in public.

'I would even wear long-sleeved shirts to cover up my tattoos if they offended her.'

Best post of the day.

I also saw something that said 'anti-banding'.
I would kindly ask what that may mean, keeping in mind that I'm frenchspeaking and that 'bander' means 'to bend' mend it is about a bow, but has other meanings.

Franchement, je suis choqué.. ;-)

Tulips, I'm in Torgau, Germany.

I may have exxagerated on the spurr of the moment, but one guy is good looking, he is also the youngest and drives a Mercedes 350 SLK or such, a convertible dating of the 70's. A man of taste.

He is engaged though. But quite nice.