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Itinerary for European trip with 18 year old son

Itinerary for European trip with 18 year old son

Old Jan 1st, 2015, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I have heard that Les Invalides is worth the visit. I don't want to give the impression that WWII is our only interest. I teach Medieval Times, so places like Nuremberg mean something since Albrecht Durer was so important to the Northern Renaissance. Rothenberg would also be a great place I can take some pictures back for my students. That being said, I realize that France, especially Paris has so much to offer. I don't intend this to be my only trip to France if I can help it. Thank you so much annhig for the Middle Temple idea! That looks like it's right up our alley!
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 10:47 AM
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lest someone else chimes in first, it's RothenbUrg. Rothenberg is somewhere entirely different.

I'm glad that you like the Middle Temple suggestion. I think that you could combine it with a trip to the Globe theatre - it's about a 20 minute walk.
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 01:13 PM
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Ok, I knew that. I must be typing too fast, but thanks. I will definitely note the distance between those two, so I can see them on the same day.
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 01:54 PM
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Don't know if you'll have time as your itinerary is a bit tight, but they often have concerts at The Temple and acoustics are wonderful.
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 02:55 PM
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I have a good idea, you could go to Reims, if you have time, or maybe on the way to Brugges? Not sure of the train route. You don't have that many days in Paris to do another day trip, unless you canned Versailles, though.

But Reims has a wonderful cathedral which is Medieval, I guess (built around 1200-1300), and a stained glass window by Chagall, also. It has a couple nice museums, but the headquarters of Eisenhower during WWII is there and now a museum. It's where the Germans surrendered. You can see the map room and they have some film footage that I'd never seen before, I really enjoyed that museum a lot (I'm kind of a war buff myself which is why I go to a lot of these military/war museums, but I don't specialize).

The abbaye of St Remi is Medieval also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_of_Saint-Remi
http://www.reims.fr/culture-patrimoi...remi--1997.htm

This is the Museum of Eisenhower's headquarters (Musee de la Reedition)
http://www.reims.fr/culture-patrimoi...tion--1999.htm
http://gofrance.about.com/od/champag...hampagne_7.htm

You can get to Reims by high-speed train from Paris in less than an hour now from Paris Est station. Not much different from touring a sight in Paris on the opposite of town. It's not really on the same line to Brugges (which is really to Brussels).

Personally, I found Reims more enjoyable than Versailles, there is so much to see, but I know Versailles isn't replaceable for history of France (although Reims cathedral was pretty important being where kings were crowned, and Joan of Arc liberated it from the English).
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 03:48 PM
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Thank you historytraveler. I'll keep abreast of any possible concerts on the days we're there. That would be a nice addition to a lunch there. Thank you again annhig. Christina, it looks like we'll also be using your company for our Normandy tour. The responses here have been overwhelmingly helpful. Thank you all so much. I will not forget to come back here and let you all know how it all went.
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 03:52 PM
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Wow, thank you, Christina! If I can possibly squeeze in another day in Paris, I will give that some serious consideration!
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 05:58 PM
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Last year I visited London with my 14year old daughter and we took a guided cycling tour of London. It left from the bank of the Thames not far from the big wheel. As neither of us are confident road riders, I deliberately chose a Sunday morning thinking it would be quieter. Cycling was fun and very easy and gave a great introduction to London. We stopped regularly for a short spiel on where we were. I think it may also be one of the participants for the 2:1 offers as well. http://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/2for1-london
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 08:31 PM
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Thank you! That sounds like a fun way to see London. Living in southern California all my life, bike riding is something we love to do!
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 10:44 PM
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Good to see no-one tried to persuade you from visiting Rothenburg (I had read lots of negative stuff on Tripadvisor, mostly that it's too touristy), but my teens loved walking the walls, and while there are tour groups (seemingly only in the main street and the gate for photo op) it is a delightful town.
If you like walking, your Fuessen visit could include a trip up the Tegelberg cablecar, then gorgeous walk round to the castle (the Ahorn Reitweg walk. We chose not to tour the castle as it was the spectacular setting and exterior that appealed to us.
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 11:03 PM
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If you've time in Munich, your son might be interested in the story of the Scholl siblings (in German Geschwister Scholl) and the White Rose student resistance to the Nazis. There doesn't seem to be a great deal to see about them, so it wouldn't take a lot of time. Information about and at the memorial sites seems to be all in German, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose
http://www.muenchen.de/sehenswuerdig...te/119184.html
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Old Jan 1st, 2015, 11:38 PM
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Thank you Adelaidean,
I will definitely check out the cablecar. While my schedule is still flexible, no one could dissuade me from Rothenburg. The Medieval city is a must-see for us both! I realize there will be crowds, so we're going to stay the night. The evening and morning will be worth it. Thank you PatrickLondon for the suggestion. I'll see if that memorial site can be worked in.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2015, 10:42 AM
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If you use Normandy Sightseeing Tours, be sure to print a copy of their map of Bayeux from their website so you are clear where the meeting point is (place de Quebec). You can easily walk to the Bayeux Tapestry museum from the train station, tour it and then go to the meeting point which I believe is around 1 pm or so for the afternoon tour. I had time for a bite of lunch, also (just a sandwich or something). And let them know you want to be returned to the train station, and the time of your train (mine was around 6:15-6:30 as I recall).
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Old Jan 2nd, 2015, 02:31 PM
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Your revised itinerary looks great.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2015, 05:21 PM
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Will do, Christina. Thanks! Thank you sanderskn.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2015, 06:05 PM
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I thought I would add how much we have enjoyed travelling with our boys. Everyone gets to choose some part of the itinerary on our trips, and we have had great experiences that I would not have considered otherwise (quad biking in Cambodia, snorkelling in Thailand, the Schlumpf car collection in Alsace).
Interesting to note that my choice for last July's Europe trip was 4 days in Mittenwald, a village in Bavaria where we primarily did walking excursions... well, surprisingly, our teens loved it. They didn't want to be on the move constantly and they liked the very small town feel, which was unexpected. We did compromise with outings together for the first part of the day, then sometimes they could 'chill out' in the apartment (wifi a must) on their own in the afternoon. So do factor in some 'time out' as well.
We did visit the excellent Documentation Centre in Nuremberg, easy tram ride, if not included in your tour.
My boys were not impressed by the interior of the castle in Nuremberg, felt it was too "bright" and museum like (felt the same about the Salzburg fortress) whereas they liked the Haut Koenigsbourg in Alsace for its' 'Game of Thrones' atmosphere, dark and gloomy
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Old Jan 2nd, 2015, 09:48 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion Adelaidean. I know my son will need some relaxing time to just get a feel for where he is, especially Germany. I'm really looking forward to this trip. I have three kids and have traveled as far as Maine with them but never to Europe. When they were younger, I wanted to take all five of us on our trip, and five flights to Europe just wasn't economical, so we've done a lot of national park trips. I'm hoping my oldest daughter will join us, but with her new baby on the way, she has a lot on her plate. I'll check out the Documentation Centre!
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Old Jan 3rd, 2015, 02:58 PM
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We did a river cruise a couple of years ago and flew into Nuremberg. We were given an included tour of the city as part of the cruise but it was basically a drive by tour. Courtroom was in process of being renovated so were not able to view. We took our own private tour of the Documentation Centre in Nuremberg in the afternoon and it was a well presented and interesting tour. We were given headsets (English) and were able to move along at our own pace. Most of the exhibits are in German w/ no English translations so having the headsets was important. It was such a moving and educational experience to my husband and I and one that we will never forget. Do try to include this.

http://tours.tripomatic.com/en/12996...d487-2666REICH

The above walking tour might be of interest in Munich. Also have segway and bike tours.
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Old Jan 3rd, 2015, 06:05 PM
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Thank you! I like using the headset anyway, so I'm sure I'll need them in Germany. My son knows some German, but the headsets in museums can provide more information about exhibits. Thank you!
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Old Jan 4th, 2015, 05:42 AM
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Are you and your son going alone, unless your daughter joins you--you mention "all 5" which suggests a husband/SO? Just wondering who might be along to help out.
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