Italy is in total lockdown now

Old Mar 14th, 2020, 02:07 PM
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On the bright (?) side, it is nice seeing Italians singing together separately on their balconies in cities across the country:

https://twitter.com/leonardocarella/...11612270690305
oops my bad Leely2, I didn't see your post before I also posted this video. I was just so happy to see something positive, got carried away in a moment of exuberance.
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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 03:16 PM
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All the best to our Italian friends from Australia.
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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 06:43 PM
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Thanks to all of you who are sharing your experiences. There is an unbelievable quality to the news, and this makes it concrete.
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Old Mar 18th, 2020, 09:44 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cI...ature=youtu.be


Message from Italians.
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They should play this to every American.
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Old Mar 18th, 2020, 02:04 PM
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They should play this to every American.
I saw the news where they went into the ICU (Italy) and now I am terrified. They were laying naked on beds on their stomachs attached to a ventilator. No one has come out of it. It isn't working. I can't take anything to make me calm, a 1/4 of a Zantac or Ativan. Are they in a sort of induced coma? Our friend was put into a coma so they must have done that to these people. I know he could hear us and he smiled when I had a cup of coffee next to him. He loved coffee. He died five min after taking it out so how do you decide that you don't want this? Checking my living will tonight.
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 06:37 AM
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I saw the news where they went into the ICU (Italy) and now I am terrified. They were laying naked on beds on their stomachs attached to a ventilator. No one has come out of it. It isn't working. I can't take anything to make me calm, a 1/4 of a Zantac or Ativan. Are they in a sort of induced coma? Our friend was put into a coma so they must have done that to these people. I know he could hear us and he smiled when I had a cup of coffee next to him. He loved coffee. He died five min after taking it out so how do you decide that you don't want this? Checking my living will tonight.
The use of a ventilator isn't futile; it does work. Of course, by the time a ventilator is resorted to, the person has reached a very critical stage of the illness.
The first known case in Italy was a young man, who was successfully intubated.

I know that some of the people who die are conscious to the end, but some may be heavily sedated.
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 06:57 AM
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Thank you for that response, bvl.

I hope that you and your family are all well and managing to cope with our new reality.
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 08:06 AM
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Heartbreaking story about ground zero in Italy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/dj3...ar-of-the-mask

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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 08:44 AM
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Benvenuti a Bergamo

That was 4 days ago. In the meantime the situation got much worse.
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 08:50 AM
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SCRB11, thx for link. As for the article, compare 'still working at age 86' with 'carelessly cavorting on a Miami beach as late as March 18th' (shakes head).
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 09:58 AM
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Coronavirus in Italy today:
about
3000 people in terapia intensiva
16000 in other hospital beds
19000 in isolation at home
5000 healed
4000 dead
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 12:25 PM
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This is very personal but indicative of what we are facing.

My wife fell last Friday and thought she may have broken her ankle. She needed an x-ray but we did not want to go to the main hospital in Como as it is full of corona virus patients. The risk now is that even if you go to a department where there are no corona virus patients doctors/nurses/orderlies etc mingle at the bar etc so someone may return to where you are infected. On Monday we agreed with her doctor to go to a private diagnostic center but then discovered it had stopped doing x-rays during this period. We eventually found another private diagnostic center which discovered she had in fact broken her ankle and needed an operation. The problem then was to find somewhere safe to be operated. Fortunately we found a small hospital near to Como which had no corona virus patients and she was operated on the day before yesterday. Normally she would have had spent the night there but due to the circumstances they agreed that she could return home that day. Whilst recovering from the operation the hospital received notice from the Region of Lombardy that it would have to accept corona virus patients and that anyone who had not left the hospital by 17.30 would be isolated there. Before leaving she desperately needed to have a pee but with all the stress she just could not relieve herself. The minutes were counting down and finally she did with only minutes to spare. A Hollywood ending so to speak.

This is an example of what we are facing.
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 12:55 PM
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Grazie for sharing this Nochblad and was good to read that your wife made it our, albeit right down to the wire. Hoping for a speedy recovery at home. Your story illustrates just how many additional, health cases have become so complicated and even dangerous, during these days. Buono fortuna.
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 01:12 PM
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Yes, thanks so much for sharing your wife's story with us, Nochblad. I am so glad that she made it out in time and wish her a speedy recovery.

It perfectly illustrates the impact of the virus on quite minor household events [not that breaking one's ankle is minor as I remember from breaking mine about 20 years ago] - no trips down to A&E for that cut that might need stitches or bad burn or even something more serious. We are going to have to become far more self-sufficient.
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Oh dear, nochblad. So sorry you and your wife were faced with this drama but relieved to hear that your timing was good.

Wishes for a speedy recovery with absolutely NO complications.
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Old Mar 20th, 2020, 04:54 PM
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nochblad, that was quite the close call! Talk about stress level. I wish her a good recovery and good health to both of you.
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Old Mar 21st, 2020, 05:54 AM
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Oh, nochblad, what a terrifying experience for you and your wife! I'm happy to know that it worked out, but sheesh, how stressful.

Thank you all for sharing these stories, news, and information. We are living in strange and sad times. All of us are now dealing with it, but those of you in Italy have been hit earlier and harder. My heart goes out to you -- and to the rest of us, too.
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Old Mar 21st, 2020, 06:10 AM
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Thank you for the info, giving us all a view of our future.
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Old Mar 21st, 2020, 07:12 AM
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Chinese public health official says Italians not doing enough with social distancing.

Public transportation is still running and people are still having hotel gatherings and such.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...ina-second-day

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