Italy and France in 3 weeks (itinerary)
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So, I found what I believe to be a really good Rome guide http://promptguides.com/rome/guides/five_day_guide.htm
I am planning to follow it ut chaning the days in this order
Friday day4
Saturday day5
Sunday day 3
Monday day 1
Tuesday day 2
Reason being, we will be tired the first day and might start the day a little later. Also avoid weekend crowds on the coliseum and vatican.
This will also leave me time to do the cool stuff during the evenings/nights. Any advice for other things to do during the night? I also really wanna see outdoor opera and film festivals.
Thanks,
Daniel
I am planning to follow it ut chaning the days in this order
Friday day4
Saturday day5
Sunday day 3
Monday day 1
Tuesday day 2
Reason being, we will be tired the first day and might start the day a little later. Also avoid weekend crowds on the coliseum and vatican.
This will also leave me time to do the cool stuff during the evenings/nights. Any advice for other things to do during the night? I also really wanna see outdoor opera and film festivals.
Thanks,
Daniel
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So, I found what I believe to be a really good Rome guide http://promptguides.com/rome/guides/five_day_guide.htm
I am planning to follow it ut chaning the days in this order
Friday day4
Saturday day5
Sunday day 3
Monday day 1
Tuesday day 2
Reason being, we will be tired the first day and might start the day a little later. Also avoid weekend crowds on the coliseum and vatican.
This will also leave me time to do the cool stuff during the evenings/nights. Any advice for other things to do during the night? I also really wanna see outdoor opera and film festivals.
Thanks,
Daniel
I am planning to follow it ut chaning the days in this order
Friday day4
Saturday day5
Sunday day 3
Monday day 1
Tuesday day 2
Reason being, we will be tired the first day and might start the day a little later. Also avoid weekend crowds on the coliseum and vatican.
This will also leave me time to do the cool stuff during the evenings/nights. Any advice for other things to do during the night? I also really wanna see outdoor opera and film festivals.
Thanks,
Daniel
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Daniel,
You wrote:
"I know Lyon must be a really beautiful city, but is it too different if I'm already going to Paris?
So I know Nice is very different, would you recommend a better (different) stop other than Lyon?"
That's an interesting question, but I don't really know the trains well enough through there to know if there is another stop that wouldn't take you way out of your way that would really be a big contrast. I do know a lot of people like Dijon so much -- alhough for one night? Maybe instead of another city, a smaller town would give you more of a chance to take the whole thing in.
Maybe if you put up a separate post asking if there is stop between Nice and Paris that would be fun for a night and give you a third angle on France, somebody will have a great recommendation -- or they might reinforce the plan to go to Lyon.
As for nighttimes in Rome, everybody is out in the streets. I'm sure you won't have much difficulty finding music and enjoyment for free, but it is definitely worth checking out the summer movie and opera festivals.
http://www.inspireddiversions.com/ev...cfm?id_eve=991
http://www.inspireddiversions.com/ev...cfm?id_eve=991
You wrote:
"I know Lyon must be a really beautiful city, but is it too different if I'm already going to Paris?
So I know Nice is very different, would you recommend a better (different) stop other than Lyon?"
That's an interesting question, but I don't really know the trains well enough through there to know if there is another stop that wouldn't take you way out of your way that would really be a big contrast. I do know a lot of people like Dijon so much -- alhough for one night? Maybe instead of another city, a smaller town would give you more of a chance to take the whole thing in.
Maybe if you put up a separate post asking if there is stop between Nice and Paris that would be fun for a night and give you a third angle on France, somebody will have a great recommendation -- or they might reinforce the plan to go to Lyon.
As for nighttimes in Rome, everybody is out in the streets. I'm sure you won't have much difficulty finding music and enjoyment for free, but it is definitely worth checking out the summer movie and opera festivals.
http://www.inspireddiversions.com/ev...cfm?id_eve=991
http://www.inspireddiversions.com/ev...cfm?id_eve=991
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I see no real reason to stop in Lyon. It is best known for its food and if you are a foodie, it might have some attraction. If you have to make a stop between Nice and Paris, consider Avignon. I would go straight to Paris from Nice.
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Thanks so much goldenautumn!. with this I have Rome all planned out. i'll start a new post for tht other cities and ask about Nice, Lyon dilema.
Thanks mamcalice. Do you feel 2 days is enough for Nice? and one enough for Avignon?
Thanks mamcalice. Do you feel 2 days is enough for Nice? and one enough for Avignon?
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Hello to the kind people offering such wise advice on travel through France and Italy.
I am like dsauna, planning a trip through Italy in France except mine will be in late September into October of 2013, a honeymoon, around 22 total days, meandering through France and Italy and not knowing quite where to begin. I figured because France was cooler, I'd begin there and that way could still enjoy some warmer weather, even lay around on beach by the time I ended my 21 days in Amalfi area. So this leads me to Question #1.
1. Is this an okay time of year to plan to start in Paris Mid-September and end in Amalfi around October 5? As far as weather is concerned, is there any rainy season I should expect? And, Will it still be warm enough to swim in Amalfi the first week of October?
2. My imagined itinerary is as follows and please, I would appreciate any suggestions:
I did Plan to be using trains most of this itinerary if anyone can help and suggest most logical and easiest routes,
Question #2. Can anyone tell me best order to do these stops in and best way to get from place to place:
Paris 2 nights/2 full days
Nice or Marseilles (which is next logical place?) 2 nights
Provence (from Marseilles or Nice?) 1 night
Cinque Terre 2-3 nights (do I go to Cinque or Venice from last stop?)
Venice 2 nights
Siena 2 nights
(will get a rental car at this point)
Montelpucciano driving through from Siena 3 nights
Rome 2 nights
(return rental car and use trains for rest of trip)
Sorento 3 nights
Amalfi 2 nights
Ischia or an island 1 night
Naples-fly home to Boston from here
I will note that we Arrive Paris early morning stay 2 full days and nights-our only goal is to do the Eifell Tower at night and stroll along the Siene and have a romantic dinner. Not museaum folks and not shoppers, been there once way too expensive!
#3. Could anyone tell me the best area to stay in Paris to accomplish the above Eifell and stroll Siene that would also be located nearby the train in from the airport and a train that could get us to our next place which would be either Nice or Marseilles? whichever one is logically next.
As far as Rome goes, been there, I found it dirty, but will stop and do one or two touristy things and return the rental car and rely on train for remainder of trip.
#4. If anyone knows of a really nice B&B or hotel in Rome near the trains and the colliseum, I would love that and dinner suggestions for good food, not touristy, really would appreciate it.
#5. I saw some train info on another similar forum, but if anyone could kindly advise on the trains from/to each of the places I've listed:
a. Times between stops from one town to the next?
b. Are there night trains between stops I've listed?
c. Should I rent a car anywhere else on this itinerary other than between Siena and Rome which I plan to drive?
d. Are there trains between the places I've listed.
#6. Would it make sense to buy a tour package for any part of the trip, I was considering it for the first part of the trip starting in Paris and as far and even down as far as Cinque Terre or Venice, since I have places I really want to stay in Tuscany (after Siena) and again in Amalfi? Can anyone recommend a reputable tour company for such a thing?
You guys and this site are really the best, and I will repay this kindness as soon as I return from the trip, who knows, I may blog on the trains enroute.
Thank you to everyone out there and may you all have safe travels...
MJ
I am like dsauna, planning a trip through Italy in France except mine will be in late September into October of 2013, a honeymoon, around 22 total days, meandering through France and Italy and not knowing quite where to begin. I figured because France was cooler, I'd begin there and that way could still enjoy some warmer weather, even lay around on beach by the time I ended my 21 days in Amalfi area. So this leads me to Question #1.
1. Is this an okay time of year to plan to start in Paris Mid-September and end in Amalfi around October 5? As far as weather is concerned, is there any rainy season I should expect? And, Will it still be warm enough to swim in Amalfi the first week of October?
2. My imagined itinerary is as follows and please, I would appreciate any suggestions:
I did Plan to be using trains most of this itinerary if anyone can help and suggest most logical and easiest routes,
Question #2. Can anyone tell me best order to do these stops in and best way to get from place to place:
Paris 2 nights/2 full days
Nice or Marseilles (which is next logical place?) 2 nights
Provence (from Marseilles or Nice?) 1 night
Cinque Terre 2-3 nights (do I go to Cinque or Venice from last stop?)
Venice 2 nights
Siena 2 nights
(will get a rental car at this point)
Montelpucciano driving through from Siena 3 nights
Rome 2 nights
(return rental car and use trains for rest of trip)
Sorento 3 nights
Amalfi 2 nights
Ischia or an island 1 night
Naples-fly home to Boston from here
I will note that we Arrive Paris early morning stay 2 full days and nights-our only goal is to do the Eifell Tower at night and stroll along the Siene and have a romantic dinner. Not museaum folks and not shoppers, been there once way too expensive!
#3. Could anyone tell me the best area to stay in Paris to accomplish the above Eifell and stroll Siene that would also be located nearby the train in from the airport and a train that could get us to our next place which would be either Nice or Marseilles? whichever one is logically next.
As far as Rome goes, been there, I found it dirty, but will stop and do one or two touristy things and return the rental car and rely on train for remainder of trip.
#4. If anyone knows of a really nice B&B or hotel in Rome near the trains and the colliseum, I would love that and dinner suggestions for good food, not touristy, really would appreciate it.
#5. I saw some train info on another similar forum, but if anyone could kindly advise on the trains from/to each of the places I've listed:
a. Times between stops from one town to the next?
b. Are there night trains between stops I've listed?
c. Should I rent a car anywhere else on this itinerary other than between Siena and Rome which I plan to drive?
d. Are there trains between the places I've listed.
#6. Would it make sense to buy a tour package for any part of the trip, I was considering it for the first part of the trip starting in Paris and as far and even down as far as Cinque Terre or Venice, since I have places I really want to stay in Tuscany (after Siena) and again in Amalfi? Can anyone recommend a reputable tour company for such a thing?
You guys and this site are really the best, and I will repay this kindness as soon as I return from the trip, who knows, I may blog on the trains enroute.
Thank you to everyone out there and may you all have safe travels...
MJ