Italian beds look cold and hard
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I love it. You all are funny. I liked the www.fattoriapoggioalloro.com link. Looked fun and all. I'll just BMOP, bring my own pillow. hehe.
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I'd like to know what internet sites you've been looking at that you can actually tell whether the sheets are "fluffy" or not.
I'm going to Italy this summer and have been checking out innumerable websites for various places to stay in B&Bs and agriturismo-type places for a day or two after a two-week stay in Umbria, and I haven't seen anything yet that I'd categorize as dingy or cold and hard. Not only that, I've spent many a night in Italy in many a hotel/villa/B&B that wasn't a luxury hotel and don't remember having a single complaint about the bedding.
If you absolutely must have a certain thread count and those horrible fat pillows and "fluffy" sheets (whatever those are), then I'd restrict myself to luxury properties. Otherwise, your blanket assertions about Italian beds seem rather overblown and fatuous.
I'm going to Italy this summer and have been checking out innumerable websites for various places to stay in B&Bs and agriturismo-type places for a day or two after a two-week stay in Umbria, and I haven't seen anything yet that I'd categorize as dingy or cold and hard. Not only that, I've spent many a night in Italy in many a hotel/villa/B&B that wasn't a luxury hotel and don't remember having a single complaint about the bedding.
If you absolutely must have a certain thread count and those horrible fat pillows and "fluffy" sheets (whatever those are), then I'd restrict myself to luxury properties. Otherwise, your blanket assertions about Italian beds seem rather overblown and fatuous.
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I think the sheets are not fluffy because they are dried in the sun on a clothes line, rather than in a dryer, so they may dry stuff.
I hate thick pillows myself. I like only very soft pillows that are not too full. If a pillow is too think or too hard, I just sleep without a pillow, sometimes using my sweater or a rolled dry towel as a pillow. I don't need more than one pillow except when i'm sitting up reading.
A real agriturismo is a working farm. I've stayed in two--one very simple, with just two guest rooms (stayed there twice) in the Nebrodi Mts. and one a bit more upscale, but not very upscale, in the Madonie. The beds were fine. In the very simple one, everything was very old fashioned. It was so cold at night in November that I slept with layers of clothes, and the shower water was slow to heat up. I loved it anyway.
I think maybe you would prefer staying in a hotel in a city and just visiting the country on day trips.
I hate thick pillows myself. I like only very soft pillows that are not too full. If a pillow is too think or too hard, I just sleep without a pillow, sometimes using my sweater or a rolled dry towel as a pillow. I don't need more than one pillow except when i'm sitting up reading.
A real agriturismo is a working farm. I've stayed in two--one very simple, with just two guest rooms (stayed there twice) in the Nebrodi Mts. and one a bit more upscale, but not very upscale, in the Madonie. The beds were fine. In the very simple one, everything was very old fashioned. It was so cold at night in November that I slept with layers of clothes, and the shower water was slow to heat up. I loved it anyway.
I think maybe you would prefer staying in a hotel in a city and just visiting the country on day trips.
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Hi cmt,
The original poster returned to this thread twice after posting the question.
Whether it was a put on is another question, of course. It makes for fun reading and I learned of some new places to stay!
Never thought to check the thread count - but I doubt I would feel a pea under 20 mattresses either. My husband on the other hand is definately a BHOP (bring his own pillow) type!
The original poster returned to this thread twice after posting the question.
Whether it was a put on is another question, of course. It makes for fun reading and I learned of some new places to stay!
Never thought to check the thread count - but I doubt I would feel a pea under 20 mattresses either. My husband on the other hand is definately a BHOP (bring his own pillow) type!
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I'm the original poster and I did come back to read all the responses which I appreciate! By the way if you are in Napa Valley, you should go to www.carnerosinn.com - it's a five star resort on a vineyard with 500 count sheets, duvets, an outside rainwater shower, heated floors, and divine views. It's in an old historic area, but it's brand new. It's not a vacation without a glorious experience. I admit, I'm spoiled. I don't even stay in Miami because the rooms are old and small.
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I can't afford the high $300 to $400+ night rate of Carneros Inn. Even if I could I'm not sure I'd spend that much on a hotel room. Of course,if you can afford it that's great. Still in reply to your original problem of rock hard beds in Italy, maybe you will be fortunate to find that exceptional agriturismo experience that is combined with a Carneros Inn type of stay.
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Given your high-end requirements, perhaps you should not be looking for an agriturismo at all.
Maybe one of the properties recommended by Karen Brown will be suitable:
http://tinyurl.com/76nv2
(It's the list of recommended inns in Tuscany.)
Another high-end listing is that of JP Moser:
http://www.jpmoser.com/toscana.html
Finally, there is always Relais & Chateaux:
http://tinyurl.com/c3s23
Maybe one of the properties recommended by Karen Brown will be suitable:
http://tinyurl.com/76nv2
(It's the list of recommended inns in Tuscany.)
Another high-end listing is that of JP Moser:
http://www.jpmoser.com/toscana.html
Finally, there is always Relais & Chateaux:
http://tinyurl.com/c3s23
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<< Given your high-end requirements, perhaps you should not be looking for an agriturismo at all. >>
Let's scroll back. She never said she wanted an agroturismo. I think that the places you cite might scratch the right itch.
Let's scroll back. She never said she wanted an agroturismo. I think that the places you cite might scratch the right itch.
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She did say she wanted a 'slow rural experience' on 'a vineyard'. No, she didn't specifically mention 'agriturismo'. So it could've been taken either way. But they way she describes she may really like the properties on the J.P. Moser site, for instance.
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