Italian allergy translation check

Old Apr 14th, 2016, 09:26 PM
  #21  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have a deadly allergy, not your daughters, and live in rome and eating food outside is part of my job. From all my experience i can tell you: make your card in perfect italian. Make it list every item (not just "nuts" but what exactly those are, etc). If possible, have a second card (so as not to crowd the furst one) with details asking about certain possibilities.

Learn how things are made so you can be aware of pitfalls and ask the right questions. For example, my allergy is to mustard. But when i say that in italy, most people think only about the yellow condiment, which is rare in italy. They say no, there is no mustard in anything. But they are not thinking about the mayo, or the curry mix; i have to ask about these explicitly. And no one ever thinks further: a single restaurant was ever aware that mustard allergy means i can't eat vegetables from the brassica family.
And mistakes happen, so be prepared. In a restaurant where i am friends with every single employee and they all know my allergy, i was served a dish with a mustardy dressing bcs waiter didn't know the new dish had mustard in it and didn't communicate to kitchen it was for me. The chef saw through the kitchen window that the plate was served to me and practically jumped on me to snatch it away. I always look at my plate, think what might be wrong for me, and first just touch it to my lips if i am not sure and wait. And have my meds with me.
vinoroma is offline  
Old Apr 15th, 2016, 01:43 AM
  #22  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Any comments from native speakers on my translation attempt in post 1?

Listing the different types of nuts is surely good.


By the way, one thing you ought to remember in case anything happens, although we all hope you won't need it: The emergency number in all EU countries is 112. Grab the nearest phone, or ask someone around to do so, and call an emergency doctor - don't try to drive around and search for a hospital yourself.
quokka is offline  
Old Apr 15th, 2016, 08:26 PM
  #23  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank you all for your responses. She is allergic to 3 types of nuts, (cashews, pistachios, and macadamias). We decided it was easier to say all nuts as then we are sure to have less misunderstanding. She doesn't like any nuts as a result of her allergy anyway so it does not worry us for her to have none at all. In the picture that we will put with it we will use pictures of the specific nuts. The problem is if people think that it is only a couple of nuts that are a problem, they also assume the allergy is not as serious as peanut allergies (which gets lots of media attention) and that other products such as oils, pastes etc are ok and they often don't think to check those items for ingredients lists, (this has happened before).

Please rest assured that we don't blindly accept things at face value and are used to being quite careful and questioning with staff. We do also carry with us the medication needed if she does have a reaction. Thank you all for your concern and support, Nicole
mrsnikkik is offline  
Old Apr 15th, 2016, 10:15 PM
  #24  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I understand your saying "nuts" but the problem with the generalization is three fold: people don't always know what a nut is or isn't. So you might encounter someone who thinks peanuts are nuts and pistachios are not, and thus will tell you not to have the fried zucchini flower (bcs it is fried in peanut oil) but will bring you a dessert with pistachios (exagerated example to help see my point). And saying (or leading people to think) you are allergic to something when you are not creates greater dangers, for you and others after you ("she just ate the salad dressing with hazelnut oil and nothing happened, she is not allergic, just does not like it, so it is safe to serve her the pistachios on pasta" again, i am exagerating). Thirdly, one of the proposed words for nut, noci, is ambiguous and can be understood to mean walnuts only.
That is why i strongly suggest listing the individual nuts and also not taking anyone's word here and rather use one of the official allergy translation sites/cards. Saying this as a fellow allergic living in italy as well as someone in the food industry, fwiw.
vinoroma is offline  
Old Apr 16th, 2016, 12:39 AM
  #25  
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,585
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just a remark :

Staff have to be trained : forget about that.
It goes about healt - or survival as it seems quite severe - of a child. Don't expect staff is well trained, don't assume anything : so if peanuts is important, add it to the translation.

Staff is NOT trained in restaurants. If they were with regards to these kind of aspects, my mother would still be alive.
Whathello is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Dayenu
Europe
9
Sep 23rd, 2010 07:51 AM
lyb
Europe
23
Jan 12th, 2006 02:20 AM
dwzemens
Europe
20
Sep 16th, 2004 05:03 AM
sabina
Europe
130
Apr 5th, 2004 06:34 PM
abc
Europe
7
Jul 12th, 2002 01:33 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Manage Preferences Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Your Privacy Choices -