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ISIS Threats to Europe....anyone rethinking their travel plans?

ISIS Threats to Europe....anyone rethinking their travel plans?

Feb 19th, 2015, 11:58 AM
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Not at all, none must say to any US citizen what and where he wants to go.
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Feb 20th, 2015, 09:01 AM
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" We do not have a Hindu terrorism problem. Or a Christian or Atheist terrorism problem"

Really?

In the past century my country has suffered terrorism from German and Irish bombers, killing infinitely more people than Islamists even dream of. Most of the Irish bombers claimed to be killing to defend the rights of Catholics: the others to defend the rights of Protestants.

The largest death-toll in a single terrorist attack on Britons in the past century was inflicted by Jewish terrorists. We're still waiting for an apology for that: the terrorists's successors regard the murderers as heroes.

We've had Sikh terrorists murdering on our streets - and the largest single terrorist outrages on European soil in the 21st century have been carried out by Russian Orthodox terrorists.

It's arguable there've been no Hindu terrorists in Europe: but they've murdered more innocent Muslims over the past 70 years in India than Islamism has managed here - and India's Prime Minster has still provided no convincing evidence he didn't support them in their 2002 pogrom in the State he was Chief Minister of.

And that's before we start counting the innocent (mostly Muslim, but Christian and Jewish as well) civilians killed by American and British terrorism in Iraq.

You called it "shock and awe". Everyone else called it just plain terrorism.
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Feb 20th, 2015, 09:38 AM
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Somehow replying that I am planning to travel to Italy and Croatia this fall seems like an inadequate answer.
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Feb 20th, 2015, 10:10 AM
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I watched this forum for a long time before becoming a member. It was disappointing to see how arrogant, condescending and downright nasty some responses were. It should be a TRAVEl forum for questions, answers and suggestions, right? Not a platform for political views or making those who post questions feel stupid or ignorant if they haven't travelled as extensively as some of you. Geesh people. Stop with the speeches and stay on point to a poster's question. The european forum seems to be the worst offender on Fodors.
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Feb 20th, 2015, 10:26 AM
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My next trip is in May to the UK. I can't imagine canceling it at this point, nor under most circumstances. I won't deliberately go into places I think are too dangerous but I won't stop traveling to the UK and Western Europe.
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Feb 20th, 2015, 01:16 PM
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What can suddenly damper tourissm to Europe is some plane being crashed by a terrorist group - I know personally because I was in the tour business when the Lockerbie disaster happened - folks started cancelling right away in droves (many later came back but still folks can take things way out of context - but a trans-Atlantic plane or two being blown up will put a chill on Americans going to Europe that is for sure.
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Feb 20th, 2015, 10:21 PM
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We are living in the present. And every day ISIS grows and gains territory with the message: die or convert. That is the reality. Very Simple. Give it whatever name you want. You can believe the lies and propaganda. It doesn't change anything. Nothing at all.
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Feb 21st, 2015, 01:45 PM
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Hmm, I was talking to my sister last night about my upcoming trip to Helsiki, St. Petersburg, the Baltics, and Poland. She's quite nervous about my travels this time. She and I visited many countries in Europe for seven or eight years, our last trip being ten years ago.

She's nervous about Putin having his eyes on the Baltics. She's always been a little more nervous than I am about European travel. She used to say that I am bullet-proof.

I guess I'll have to find a cyber cafe every day so I can reassure her that I'm still alive and not locked up somewhere. I thought about getting an ipad or very light laptop so that I could keep in touch, but I hate to haul around anything more.

Since I'll be visiting a total of somewhere between 6 and 10 cities, many of them by bus, I want to keep the luggage to a minimum.
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Feb 21st, 2015, 02:10 PM
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I have an iPad mini and find it perfect for travel--it's pretty light and slips easily into my purse.
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Feb 21st, 2015, 02:24 PM
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"Lahawk," yes, it's SUPPOSED to be a travel forum where someone posted "are you changing your travel plans to Europe," but the soapboxes come out and there they go onto them, spouting their political viewpoints citing statistics, over and over, arguing with fodorites whom they do not know -- don't they have friends/colleagues/clubs to discuss this stuff with/at?? Apparently not, or perhaps they've stopped listening. It has become an annoyance to me. BTW, we watch Fox News. BTW, no, are not changing plans for France in September. "Pegontheroad" use a smartphone for your checking in back home.
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Feb 21st, 2015, 02:24 PM
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Internet cafes are a thing of the past in many cities these days, as the locals all have their own smart phones/tablets/computers etc. i travel with an iPad (not a mini) and use my hotel/B&B's wifi. And I certainly try to travel light!

I am planning for a Scandinavian trip right now, but will probably start in the Baltics (definitely want to go back to Riga) and am not especially worried. However, although I would really like to revisit Lviv, I do have some doubts about that.
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Feb 21st, 2015, 03:40 PM
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I've seen the internet at call centers all over the places I've been.
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Feb 21st, 2015, 04:44 PM
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Here is one to respond to ISIS.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...travel-advice/
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Feb 21st, 2015, 05:02 PM
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Well that's funny but what if they mean Rome, New York? That would have ISIS marching right by IMDonehere's condo.
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Feb 21st, 2015, 05:09 PM
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The question wasn't stupid. Nor is discussing what is going on internationally. That's what these forums are for. I have a Mediterranean cruise coming up in June with stops in Italy(Rome), France, and Monte Carlo. I'm not canceling anything. But I don't have my head in the sand either.
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Feb 22nd, 2015, 03:01 AM
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I thought it was a good sensible question.
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Jun 1st, 2016, 08:58 AM
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I don’t think that people understand that simply saying that there is a low chance of being killed in a terrorist act helps. I think there are lots of people, including myself, that aren't frightened by death, but do care very much how they die. For a believer in democracy, and a staunch believer in a separation of church and state it is a horrid ending at the hands of misogynistic, religious lunatic enemies bent on destroying anything good and decent. To make thinks much worse to have that kind of ending on the streets of nations that exported democracy, feminism, human rights, and the Quaker philosophy(abolitionists). How dare they! You can't coddle cancer, put a bandage on it, wait it out, ignore it or accommodate it.
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