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PalenQ Oct 31st, 2018 11:55 AM

Is Venice Sinking? No, It's Sunk - Biggest Flooding in a Decade
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/w...ods-italy.html

Folks are swimming in St Mark's Square as highest water in a decade floods the low-lying old town.

What happened to those expensive floodgates the Italian Government put in to help protect Serenissima?

A thread from Percy on this flooding is in the Lounge:

https://www.fodors.com/community/fod...enice-1659769/

bvlenci Oct 31st, 2018 02:12 PM

The Mose project isn't completed yet. It's supposed to be finished in 2019.

What's the use of giving us a link to the Lounge? Most of us can't access it.

PalenQ Oct 31st, 2018 02:28 PM

Yeh forgot about that but quite a few can access it - not sure why Percy did not post in Europe Forum as well except he never posts on EuropeTMK. Had some nice pictures.

bv- haven't you been around long enough to have access to Lounge? Forget when it was turned into a closed club.

Seems like that MOSE project started a few millennia ago! Read it was delayed by graft and corruption of local officials or something. I think some say it won't really work but more and more will need it the way the Artic and Antartic and glaciers are melting.

Nitty-gritty of MOSE Project to protect Venice from flooding:

https://www.water-technology.net/projects/mose-project/

(Says 'was to be operational in 2014'!)

And here is a bit on the scandals that have disrupted the project - very very Italian it seems. Was supposed to cost about 1.6 billion euro now up to about 5.5 billion. Original completion date- now 2022 it says - apparently many of the gates put in can't work and need to be redone and parts sitting on shore have corroded - yes the stereotype of what to expect in Italy!

And the article says that heavy rains can flood Venice too and the gates will do little to stop it, especially Saint Mark's Square which is very prone to flooding in heavy rains - but they are currently constructing or are about to some kind of rubber girding to protect the square a bit more.

https://www.lastampa.it/2017/10/12/e...xJ/pagina.html

bvlenci Nov 1st, 2018 09:11 AM

Heavy rain can (and does) cause flooding in Rome and Florence, too, but the problem specific to Venice is acqua alta, which isn't caused by rain.

I don't have access to the Lounge, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.

PalenQ Nov 1st, 2018 01:19 PM

I don't have access to the Lounge, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.> And you should not IMO as Lounge, being closed so long to newbies is dwindling and is now mainly a social club or click - great for whoever likes that.

janisj Nov 1st, 2018 02:34 PM

Whether in the Lounge or on Europe . . . Silly thread.

PalenQ Nov 1st, 2018 02:46 PM

Janis why is highlighting flooding in Venice and future plans to abate it a 'silly thread'?

That to me is a silly comment - why is it silly to you? Get real and don't let your high dudgeon to...make you look silly!

Cheers!

Macross Nov 2nd, 2018 05:56 AM

Pal, we were talking about this on another travel site and the pictures in restaurants with diners eating in ankle deep water was amazing. How do the cooks manage not to be electrocuted? I saw all the trees down on cars and some water was hip deep. I Hope Percy still had a great trip. So surprised someone didn't move his lounge thread to here. I don't go there anymore but do miss certain posters.

hetismij2 Nov 2nd, 2018 06:16 AM

There have been many deaths in Italy due to the weather. there is flooding and damage the length of the country, right down to Palermo where there is flooding. Portofino, amongst other places, is cut off, roads are washed out or blocked by slides, and the Stradivarius forest at Val de Fiemme has been destroyed by winds. 1 million cubic metres of forest gone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46069769

Meanwhile, north of the Alps the drought continues.

Macross Nov 2nd, 2018 04:24 PM

Wow, I didn't know that. Venice gets all the coverage. Those colourful boots are a big seller.

Percy Nov 2nd, 2018 06:21 PM

PalenQ

But I do post on the Europe Forum !!

Macross Nov 2nd, 2018 06:41 PM

Hi Percy, do tell us about your trip. I have been seeing photos for several days. I would be wanting hip waders.


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