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Is this Ireland Itinerary Plausibe? Please Help!
My husband and I plotted on a map the highlights and activities that our family of 4 (2 kids: 12 and 10 yrs of age) are interested in and put together this tentative driving tour itinerary. We would like a reality check if this is doable or not and are seeking input from the forum. Any comments are welcome.
Suggested Ireland Itinerary Day 1 - Arrive Dublin Day 2 – Tour Dublin – St Patricks Cathedral Oscar Wilde House Dublin Castle National Gallery Market Street Get Rental Car Day 3 – Travel Dublin - Waterford Stop in Wicklow Tour Waterford Day 4 – Travel Waterford – Killarney Stop in Cashel – awesome Castle Stop in Blarney – Kiss stone Horse and Carriage ride Day 5 – Kerry Circle Travel Killarney - Dingle – Limerick Day 6 – Victorian Village Cliffs of Moher Kinvarra (evening banquet) Overnight in Kinvarra Day 7 – Travel to Dublin Day 8 – Travel Dublin to Londonerry Stop in Bru na Boine Stop in Slieve League Overnight Londonerry Day 9 – Visit Giants causeway Travel to Dublin Day 10 – Fly to Scotland Thanks for taking the time to reply and assist us in making our holiday better. Reggs |
It's madness. Too much driving, zig-zagging all over the place, rush-rush-rush.
Killarney to Limerick via Dingle? No. Waterford to Blarney via Cashel? No. Dublin to Derry via Slieve League? No. You really need to go back to the drawing board, and I think you need to abandon the idea of visiting all four corners of Ireland in such a short time. |
Hi Reggs,
I'm not an Ireland expert, but we were in N. Ireland for a long weekend in March and it took a full day to get from Belfast to Derry (stopping at a waterfalls walk, the Rope Bridge, lunch and Giant's Causeway). It was a long day honestly and we were all really sick of the car by the end of it. It takes a really, really long time to drive anywhere in Ireland as it's all small roads and very twisty and windy. I haven't been carsick in years but I was feeling it a bit by the end! I agree with Padraig - if you pick an area to focus on, you'll be able ot plan a lot better. East or West, North or South. We are going to the SW of Ireland for a long weekend in July and are spending 5 days just between Dingle, Doolin and Ennis - and it's still quite a bit of driving in that time. We had a lot of success using this site - http://www.theaa.com/travelwatch/pla...jsp?database=I for driving directions and to get a sense of how long it would take. Round up! Good luck. |
Echo all of the above - nigh on impossible. Ireland may look small on a map - but it isn't. And you will average about 35 mph touring around. So go back to the drawing board and decide which areas are most important for you and we can help.
I'd skip Waterford altogether BTW. Except for the factory tour there isn't much "there there". And going to the Waterford factory is not worth missing other terrific places elsewhere. |
Oh - meant to add -- when revising your plans, there is no reason to have to return to Dublin. You can get to Scotland from lots of other places in Ireland - Cork, Shannon, Belfast, etc . . . . .
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I lived in Ireland for a year and concur with all others--you're trying to do way too much. Unless Waterford policy has changed, there are no real "deals" at the factory so I would give it a miss. After Dublin I would choose one area and hunker down--maybe Galway, the Burren (including Cliffs of Moher which takes 15 minutes) and Connemara which is still wild and fascinating. Linger in front of open fires in old pubs--listen to the local stories--true and embellished, listen to local musicians, shop Galway's quirky "Shop Street", etc.
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Your itinerary sounds amazing....if you had two months. Otherwise, sorry but I have to agree: it is madness.
You did really well in laying out the type activities and sights your kids would enjoy, so now list them all out, prioritize and cut the bottom half. |
I have an additional suggestion for traveling and that is to supplement a car rental with travel by "train". Especially with the 12 & 10 yr old. My husband & I traveled by train (also bus) to destinations in Northern Ireland and the West. It might allow you see more sights and cities...and if needed, pick up a rental car to browse the country nearby. Pack lightly..
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You asked the right people!! This forum saved our family's sanity and helped us plan a reasonable trip to Ireland (from a London base) last summer: first it was fly to Dublin, drive to Galway, and then drive more. Then we realized that to see the southwestern area of Ireland, we'd lose too much of our short time to get there, so decided to fly to Shannon Airport and then begin driving. The more I read, the smaller the driving route became----we ended up not even having time to get to Galway. We, too were travelling with kids: 9 year-old twins and a 6-year-old (and we did fit nicely into the Opel Astra we rented)....
In the end, you must keep your focus on the great things you will see,as opposed to the Inside of Your Car. Make those cuts!!! The more intimate trip which results will make better travellers of your children, at least. And do get the Ordnance survey maps for driving; the 1:400,000 Michelin map we got locally doesn't quite convey the driving you will do. They can be a challenge to get in the US; we ordered ours from Longitude in New York, I think (I was just going to bed when I saw your post, so can't furnish more info just now). You can also do on-line plotting of routes between towns, which gives you pretty accurate estimates of travel times and was invaluable in helping us be realistic. I can find a link for you, if you're interested. --Penny |
http://www.aaroadwatch.ie
http://www.viamichelin.com Set it up to give the distances in MILES, rather than the default KILOMETERS. DIVIDE 'Total Distance Driven' by 30 or 35. Distances in Ireland are decieving. There are precious few (read: ALMOST NONE)of the wide, straight, limited-access roads that you may be used to, in the US, or Canada. It ALWAYS takes LONGER and costs MORE -- Mr. Murphy said so! That will tell you an ACCURRATE estimate of how long it will take to get from Point A to Point B. For example, Day 5: the Ring of Kerry is a SIX hour drive (or more), depending on stops. It will take at LEAST 1 1/2 hours to drive between Killarney and Dingle, Even the ABBREVIATED Slea Head Drive will take about 2 1/2 - 3 Hours, with any stops at all. The drive from Dingle to Limmerick will add another 2 1/2 - 3 hours. That's a total of 12 1/2 - 14 hours, DRIVING TIME -- NOT counting stops. Do you REALLY want to imprison your two Tweens in the car THAT long? Bob |
Hey Everybody, this is Reggs the original poster and evidently the local idiot!!! I have been working diligently, utilizing all of your fabulous suggestions and I still need your help getting semi-Ireland educated! Please be patient with my ignorance and guide thee gently!
pittpurple: I picked south! Now I am using the fabulous link you sent me to check distances between 'must sees'after I obtain all of the distances I will know if I need to prioritze and cut more. (So I won't give you all my tentative Itenerary yet!) Unfortunately after checking only a couple legs of my travels the web site became,'Temporarily unavailable". I am hoping it will come back quickly. If not I will utilize the links the 'ever so kind' previous writer to this entry provided to me (Thank you!) beeze: What places did you go to and how long did it take you? Which places did your children love? Janisi: Thanks for the info! It looks like we will be flying into Shannon Airport. MaryDee649: We will hire a car! Okay,... You 'Novice Fodorites' Now for a question (Be gentle please!!! Don't make me feel like 'the red headed stepchild again!) WHOOPS! Perhaps I should not have picked a red head being that this IS Ireland!Forgive me. We will be extending our trip by 2 or 3 days to enable us to see more. Everything we have prioritized is Dublin Southward. My son is so Adament about going to Giants Causeway. We will end our southern ventures in Dublin (we are fine about the cost of hirering the rental car in Shannon and leaving it in Dublin). The query is: I have checked flights and costs of flying from Dublin to Derry just to get to the Giants Causeway. I have also checked flights and costs for flying from Derry(Londonderry)to Glasgow Scotland where we need to meet a 5th family member at the Glasco Airport. We will then carry on with our holiday in Scotland as a family of 5. The flight is 50 minutes from Dublin to Derry. Can I catch a Bus Tour to Giants Causeway? What is the best way to get there and back to Derry? I am estimating that we would have anywhere from 12 hours to 36 hours to get from Dublin, to the Causeway and back to Derry again. What are your thoughts on this/ I await your replies anxiously! Thanks, Reggs |
Hi Reggs,
I know there are tours from Belfast, but I haven't seen any from Derry. Honestly, if you're fine with driving, I would rent a car. It was a lovely drive along the coast and then you can do it at your own pace. Giant's Causeway was definitely a highlight on our trip to N.Ireland. For the SW we're actually going on a trip in July and our itinerary is flying into Shannon, driving to Dingle (3-4 hours) staying the night there, doing the Sleahead drive the next day and another night in Dingle. Then driving to Doolin (4 hours) to see the Cliffs or Moher (primarily because they were in the Princess Bride!) and spending a night in Doolin. My husband goes home from there, but my mom and I are going to stay in Ennis for two nights (with a super early flight out) without a car. We actually reworked this trip after going to N.Ireland because we found out quickly everyone on this forum was right - it is exhausting spending the whole day driving on tiny roads and pulling over every 20 minutes for a picture. But we got amazing pictures so it was worth having our own car. Oh yeah - that site goes down sometimes but it's usually back up within an hour or so. It was definitely the best one we used. |
First off, Reggs, I think you should discuss matters with your son, and let him know how far away from everything else the Giant's Causeway is. See if it's a negotiable matter. If you concede the argument, make sure that he has the sense that he owes you big-time (useful for your old age).
Then clean down your programme as you have already started to do. A tour package from Dublin to the Causeway Coast for four people would be quite expensive (here's one: http://www.railtoursireland.com/dc10.asp ). So I suggest that you drive from Dublin. It is possible as a longish day trip or you might choose to do one overnight in NI, either going or returning. Personally, I'd do it as a day trip, mainly because driving between Dublin and Belfast is easy, nearly all motorway. |
Okay Guys, it's Reggs again! We nixed the flight from Dublin to Derry and decided to drive. Play devels advocate for me on this potential itenerary. Take note that I have checked the travel time distances from place to place from your site pittpurple and added an hour contingency time per leg. So if the stars are all aligned, and and we stuff our pockets with four leaf clovers...this is what we propose:
Arrive 10th July Shannon Airport Collect car at Airport Stay B&B in Shannon or Limerick or Ennis - any suggestions?? 11 July Drive to Cliffs of Moher 2 hrs Take Photos Drive to Bunratty and spend rest of day at village Attend Midevial Banquet that evening Overnight at same place as previous evening 12 July Drive to Killarney 3 hrs Drive Ring of Kerry 6 hrs Overnight in Killarney - any suggestions? 13 July Drive to Blarney 2.5 hrs Kiss Stone 2 hrs Drive to Cashel 2.5 hrs Visit Castle 2 hrs Overnight Cashel - suggestions? 14 July Drive to Waterford 2.5 hrs ( It's my 14th year Anniversary and I am going!!!) Visit Factory 2 hrs Drive to Wicklow 3 hrs Visit Jail 2 hrs Overnight Wicklow - suggestions? 15 July Drive to Dublin 1 hr Explore Dublin Overnight Dublin - suggestions? 16 July Continue exploring Dublin Overnight same as previous evening 17 July Drive to Bru na boinne 2 hrs Explore area and ruins 2 hrs Overnight Cabra Castle 18 July Drive to Giants Causeway 4 hrs Explore Causeway 2 hrs Drive to rope bridge and do that 2 hrs Overnight in area - suggestions? 19 July Drive to Larne (driving time depends on where we stay previous evening) Drop rental car ( we already have checked the price and are okay with it) Take Ferry to Troone Scotland 2 hrs Whew! We fully recognize there are some long days in this plan. We typically go hard all day long while on holiday. We have also allocated some "easier" days in this plan to charge our batteries. Okay, Now let me have it everyone ASAP! I need to get planning for Scotland! |
Much more workable.
I suggest that you nix Limerick and Shannon as candidate bases for the first two nights; Ennis is good, but perhaps Bunratty might be better if you plan to do the banquet. I think Blarney is a waste of time, but it's your time to waste. Ditto Waterford. After Wicklow, head for Glendalough -- choice of hotels, the Glendalough Hotel or Lynam's of Laragh. Have a quick tour of the monastic site in the morning before heading for Dublin (I suggest the scenic route over the Sally Gap). |
When I had the same questions about where to stay, the overwhelming opinion of everyone here was to stay in Ennis. The suggestions here were right on line with what you'll see on Trip Advisor - I ended up making reservations at Glenomra B&B as they had better prices for a single. You'll see Grey Gables suggested quite a bit if you do a forum search, but they didn't have rooms available when we needed. Note that we're there a few days before you, so you'll probably want to start booking B&B's soon as we had to email several places. However, for parts of it we won't have a car whic made it a bit more difficult.
Besides a really long day on the 12th (just a lot of driving!!), I think it sounds okay. I travel like you - run like crazy for days and then relax when I get home, so this plan mostly makes sense to me (minus Waterford, but that's personal preference!) |
I personally think you will kick yourselves after getting to Waterford and seeing how little there is to see/do. There are no bargains. Waterford does not discount their products at the factory and you may actually find a better selection elsewhere in the country.
Warterford will take a relatively large bite out of your very limited time, without adding much if anything to your experience. |
Advice you have gotten here is good. Ennis would be the 1st choice and Bunratty second for lodging. Outside of Ennis, I stayed at the Lakeside Country Lodge which I liked very much. Perhaps a 10 minute drive into town. It's a beautiful setting. http://www.lakeside.ie/
If you arrive in Shannon early on your 1st day, consider doing the folk park then. The earlier the better as it will be mobbed in July. Try to get to the Cliffs early the next day. Again, midday will be very crowded. I would choose Kenmare over Killarney, especially in July. Killarney sold it's sold to tourism over a century ago and would have little charm to me at that time of year. I can get you some B&B suggestions for Kenmare. I can't think of anything I would like less than Blarney Castle in July. It's not a very interesting castle and every tour bus in southern Ireland will be making a stop there that day. Go to Cahir Castle (in Cahir) instead. Much more inetersting and in very good condition. Blarney is a ruin. I'm with the others on Waterford also. Hey, it's a factory and by no means the nicest crystal produced in Ireland. Most small cutters scoff at it. Perhaps stop in Kinsale and chat with the cutter himself. They do beautiful work there and will be happy to talk to you about it. As far as being in the east, given the choice between seeing Waterford or Glendalough, well, it's a no-brainer. If it were me, I think I would dump the car in Dublin and do a tour north and to Bru Na Boinne, if you absolutely must. Bru Na Boinne yes, Giant's Causeway just seems like too much. As Padraig said, he owes you! Hope this helps. Bill |
Just a small caveat. There are times when the Rope Bridge is closed due to high winds. You might want to check the weather foecast before making the journey.It certainly won't take two hours. You can still explore the Giant's Causeway and the nearby castle ( Dunlace?)is well worth a visit if you're already there.
I concur with those who suggest you skip Waterford. A monumental waste of time IMO. |
I was close. It's Dunlunce Castle.
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historytraveler wrote "I was close. It's Dunlunce Castle."
Still close, but no cigar yet. |
Let's try Dunluce Castle.
I think Dunlunce was a typo, but these days I don't often know what happens between my mind and the computer keyboard. |
I was afraid you would try "Dunlance" before getting there!
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Blarney Castle is the Loch Ness of Ireland. Meaning - not great places to visit - just famous. Many think Blarney is <b><i>the</i></b> castle to visit in Ireland and Loch Ness is <i><b>the</b></i> loch to visit in Scotland. Neither is true. They are just two places most first-timers have heard of.
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This is Reggs, i am diligently on the hunt for places to stay. We nixed Limerick and Shannon as instructed and I have sent questions to 3 Farm Houses in Ennis. I thought my kids would get a kick out of staying on a farm being that they have grown up their entire lives in the'Concrete City' of Bangkok Thailand!
Anybody have any reports on these Farms in Ennis? 1)Eden Hill House 2)Elmdale 3)New Park House Does anybody have a link they can give me so I can check out reviews on the accommodations we are leaning towards? We haven't recieved the exact time of our arrival in Shannon, but if we get there early enough and have the energy we will take your advice wojazz3 on Bunratty the day of arrival, thanks. Are most B&B's in Ireland nonsmoking? I also am looking into a place to stay in Kenmare instead of Killarney (as instructed). Any feedback on Abbey Court B&B? wojazz, what is the name of the Crystal place in Kinsale you are reccommending? And isn't Glendalough in Waterford? I also keep reading to my Son how much he owes me!!! Is Wicklow Jail too scarey for a 9 year old? I have emailed them directly to no avail. They say their is screaming on the web site, but they don't say if the manicans on display move or not. I hope they don't because I am certain that would push my daughter over the edge. Also, can you please give me some names of places in Dublin to spend 2 nights on the 24hr Hop on Hop Off bus route if you have any!!! And what is typical check in and out times in B&B's in Ireland? Thanks ever so much, Reggs |
Glendalough is in Co. Wicklow, not too far from Wicklow Town. You asked for suggestions on where to overnight after visiting Wicklow Gaol, and I think that is the standout candidate.
B&Bs are normally non-smoking. Usually there is not a formal checkout time, but the presumption is that you leave not too long after breakfast. I'd feel I was in the way if I was there later than about 10.30. |
as for check in times - it totally depends on the B&B. Some have a specific window of time for check in (like 4 p.m. to 6 p.m.) that can be changed if you contact them ahead of time. Some ask you when you will be arriving and will be at home then.
B&Bs are usually very small, family-run places and people are not there all day to let folks in. They have shopping to do, school runs, and just general "life". So once you pick a B&B you need to talk to them about check in. Usually - when you book they will ask you when you plan on being there. |
I can highly recommend Eden Hill House just outside Ennis. We loved it.
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We stayed at Abbey Court in 2006 and would stay again.Very nice B&B and run by a very nice family.
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The company is Kinsale Crystal. Anyone in town will be abloe to tell you how to find it. A number of years ago, Waterford offered many of their cutters and early retirement option (at least this is how I heard the story) as they had too many and they were going to a more shallow, quicker cut and didn't require as many cutters. Dingle and Kinsale were owned by brothers (though I've heard the Kinsale brother died by strange circumstances) and took the offer from Waterford. Both opened thier own shops and when back to the deeper cutting styles. They really do appear, even to this not so discerning eye, much nicer.
I've also heard good things about Abbey Court in Kenmare, though never stayed there. Generally, the rule is to check in between 4-6 at B&Bs but it is always good to call ahead and let them know you are coming as janis says. Bill |
Thanks Guys. I ended up getting confirmed at:
New Park House in Ennis Co. Clare. Abbey Court in Kenmare was unfortunately booked out ,so they reccommended me to 'Island View', which is supposed to have great Family Rooms. I hope it is nice... In Cashel we are booked at Derrynaflan House where they evidently make their own cheese. (The kids should dig that!) I am waiting to hear back from Balley Knocken Farmhouse in Asford Wicklow. In Dublin we have been confirmed at the Harcourt Hotel which is supposed to be in the heart of the city and has great reviews on ' Trip Advisor. After Dublin we are going to go see Bru na boine, and the tombs of New Grange and knowth. We need to spend that night around there somewhere and the next night we stay I think in Coleraine. Where should I look for a place for our Meath Sightseeing day? Meath, Cavan, Monaghan, Louth? Any recommendations you can give me? For the last night I found a great place in Coleraine, 'Heathfield Farm' and I am praying for confirmation. The following morning we leave for Larne to catch the Ferry to Scotland. Are All B&Bs without pets inside the house as well or does it vary? I guess that's it for now. I would really appreciate any feedback ASAP! Thanks, Reggs |
"<i>Are All B&Bs without pets inside the house as well or does it vary?</i>"
LOTS of B&Bs have pets inside the house. One reason (among several) so many B&Bs say "no pets" is because their own animals are in and about. |
Hi, sounds like you have things well in hand. Our kids are still moaning over not seeing the Giant's Causeway, so I feel your pain...
As you confirm your overnights in B&B's, you can inquire about their check-in preferences, presence of pets (husb. is badly allergic to cats, so we had to ask), flexibility of breakfast schedules (since you're driving, you might want to blast off early one day...), as well as their advice, knowing you have children in tow, on where to eat, hear music, or to head for(our hosts often would telephone around for us to find out what was on). Maybe we were lucky, but we chose smaller places and found them very responsive and patient with our efforts to reliably predict our arrival times. By the same token, you can let them know if any of your kids have strong food preferences before your host serves them a big pile of something for breakfast that ends up wasted. Random Advice Department: -get your kids their own digital cameras -take along a tub of wet wipes and extra zipper-lock bags; keep a plastic bag for trash in the car. +/- a roll of paper towels once you're there. -take washcloths if they're important to you--you may not get them -keep a can of Pringles in the car. oh, all right then, a few apples too. In terms of our scheduling and what our kids liked: We flew to Shannon, got car (take photos with yr digital camera and save till you return the car, Just In Case....Ours only had 350 miles on it but already had major dents and no housing on side mirrors...make sure hubcaps are secured on) and drove to Ennis for lunch and walked around. The little museum is interesting, and sells the good driving maps in its shop. Then we drove on to Lahinch,base for 2 nights. Took a private-guided tour (arranged by host)of ruins and the Burren, one place our children absolutely loved. We came back along the coast from Ballyvaughan. Music was close by in Kilnefora and Doolin, but our 9 year olds couldn't stay awake long enough to take much in except in Lahinch. We went to Cliffs of Moher (a very short drive from Lahinch) the next morning and beat the flocks of buses. Things to know: 1- there can be obscuring fog, so you have to be somewhat flexible and try to get there when it's clear; 2- there is a protective wall you now must look over, set well back from the actual edge of the cliffs, which dims the visit; some tourists defy the no trespassing sign/ropes at the end of the wall to try to regain the wild feel of the place, but it's really not safe 3- We paid skeptically for the "Cliffs Experience" at the visitor center (itself a nice, kid-friendly display)but the kids loved it, it's a giant-screen immersion-video which takes the viewer on a gull's eye tour of the cliffs. Area faves:One of the best times we've ever had was rolling up our pants and walking along the sea at Fanore beach, just north of Doolin-- we collected dozens of limpet shells and waded through mossy tidal pools among the rocks. We only spent 20 minutes here or there in the car, and still didn't get to see the caverns or perfume factory in the Burren, our rainy day options. Other things our kids loved: 1) the drive down to Loop Head(at the mouth of the Shannon River)and walk on the cliff top. We debated doing this, as it was the same day we drove to the Dingle Peninsula. but didn't have an atom of regret. It's breathtaking-- there's an old natural rock bridge which has fallen in, a footpath you follow through pillowy clumps of grass out to the point, with the waves crashing FAR below and throngs of sea birds in the niches and along the ledges of the cliffs.... and only one other person. It took us only an hour or so of driving to get there from Lahinch,not counting the stop in Kilkee to inspect the rocky pools in the bay and to photograph the "winkle wagon"; another 45 minutes or so to get to the ferry on time. 2) the Tarbert ferry ride. It took us till late afternoon to get to our B&B in Inch-a bit east of Dingle, around 3 more hours of driving, I think. Kids loved: 1)the beehive huts; there's more than one place to visit them, but we stopped at the property of Mary O'Halloran (that's close, I think)--you can wander up among the huts with a great view out (um, is it Blasket Sound?). There's a small admission fee. We saw tour buses pull up across the street from her house a time or two, but they just took a photo and zoomed off. (This is where the film "Far and Away" was shot, with lots of locals as extras) 2) Connor Pass- spectacular views, no problem driving, kids a-leaping 3) Gallarus Observatory- actually, the kids were far more enchanted by the blooming hedges of fuchsia on the lane. But it was raining. 4) Anascaul Pottery- out of the rain, and magical. We drove back through Limerick to Bunratty (I have to check records, but think this took around 5 hours), had the early,non-medieval-castle dinner/dancing/storytelling, which all the children enjoyed, utterly. We had an evening flight out the next day, so spent the day at the Bunratty Folk Park. Half a day would really have done it for us, but our school-age kids learned quite a lot. |
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You have to reserve the Bunratty dinner in advance if you're going to do it. You can do it directly with no fee and no cancellation penalty at the Shannon Heritage site http://www.shannonheritage.com/AboutUs/ they even called me when they got openings for our family for the Irish Traditional Night. Also, make sure your kids have a fleece and a rain jacket--we were there mid-July last year and needed them. |
Reggs,
I've been worrying about your stay at Harcourt Hotel in Dublin. I stayed near by a few years ago and walked by it and remember it was not a place I'd like to be with children. Maybe it has changed and does not have a night club any more. Just now I looked at Trip Advisor and did not see rave reviews, I saw most of them were not good ones. The place I stayed was Russell Court Hotel and I'd not recommend it with children. If you do decide to stay at Harcourt, maybe have ear plugs. The rest of your accommodations look fine. Have a great trip, Joan |
Hi catham,
Thanks for the warning.They did say there would be noises. Does that mean it is not safe? The children will be with my husband and myself the entire time. Now I am nervous...what does that mean....drunks? I will research for more reviews. We are definately not party people. Thanks, Reggs |
Reggs,
I think it would be safe, but you'd have drunks around. A lot of young people go to Dublin from other countries for parties. I wish I could tell you of a reasonable place to stay in Dublin but I gave up and stayed on my other trips outside Dublin. I did read one good report on Trip Advisor by someone who stayed in an Annex of Harcourt and they said it was nice and quiet. I wish someone on this board would give you some good places to stay that might be better. If not, you and the children will be fine, Ireland is a very safe and friendly place. As I said, ear plugs. Have a great trip, Joan |
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