Is there good Pizza and Pasta in Venice?

Sep 7th, 2012, 03:11 AM
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Hm, IMO the pizzeria at the foot of the Accademia bridge has just barely-acceptable pizza - we'd only go there in an emergency, e.g. getting pushed for time to go anwhere else - but I agree the location is lovely..

IME the vegetable dishes at La Zucca are great, the meat dishes not so great. The website is here - http://www.lazucca.it/?lang=en
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Sep 7th, 2012, 04:41 AM
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Anyway)) Just don't go to the restourant in the middle of the center - their menus are only for tourist and you'll pay three times more that native for the same dish
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Sep 7th, 2012, 04:43 AM
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Agree about La Zucca, most of the vegetable dishes are delicious, particularly the sformate. And the setting is lovely on a warm evening. Have you tried Antiche Carampane or Algiubagio yet, Caroline? Both are in the splurge category for us, but justifiable while on holiday!
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Sep 7th, 2012, 11:59 AM
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Highly recommend Il Refolo for pizza.
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Sep 7th, 2012, 12:01 PM
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Sep 7th, 2012, 01:46 PM
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"Hm, IMO the pizzeria at the foot of the Accademia bridge has just barely-acceptable pizza - we'd only go there in an emergency. . ."

A good reminder. We all don't like the same pizza. I remember being told that a couple of places in London had great pizza -- and I nearly gagged on it. Some people rave about Chicago deep dish pizza and I can't stand it. Ask New Yorkers about the best pizza and you may start a war.
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Sep 7th, 2012, 02:09 PM
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"Good" anything, be it pizza, wine, coffee, or ice cream, is very subjective.

>I also love that you can get a glass of cold white wine at pretty much any stand-up counter serving coffee. Handy!<

suze~this was one of my favorite things as well!
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Sep 8th, 2012, 11:56 AM
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Good point, Patrick.

Hi Tarquin. No, haven't eaten at either of those yet, although I think we've had the odd Spritz at Algiubiagio while waiting for a vaporetto to the islands. Since our splurges are limited as this is now real life and not a hol (& we're unemployed!), we are still largely using them to revisit old faves, although we got sucked into our new fave as part of visiting Torcello on the Festa della Assunta (basilica, museum & concert free - lunch E139! ) But I hadn't heard of Antiche Carampane, so thanks for another recommendation for future investigation! You are coming over soon, aren't you?
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Sep 12th, 2012, 01:52 AM
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Hi Caroline, I missed your message until today.

The fun part of Antiche Carampane is finding it, you have a real sense of accomplishment when you get there!

We will be in a flat in Padova 15th to 22nd Sept, during which time we'll have 3 or 4 daytrips to Venice along with visits to other old favourites like Villa La Malcontenta (Tues) and Vicenza (Wed.) Want to meet for a spritz?
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Sep 12th, 2012, 02:00 AM
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Hi Tarquin - that would be lovely. If you look at DH's blog - http://jonesesavenezia.blogspot.it/ - it has an email address on it. We are currently free during the daytime any day next week.

Latest update on the Santa Marta farmers' market - c.6 fruit & veg stalls, 1 winemaker, 2 cheese stalls, 1 baker, 1 butcher, 1 selling eggs + chickens, 1 with honey, 1 with plants & herbs.
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Sep 12th, 2012, 10:07 AM
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ciao, caroline,

thanks for reposting your DH's blog - i enjoyed catching up with what you've been doing in more detail - and the pics of you "cozying" up to the mussels!

we really liked Torcello and went twice during our last stay in Venice. we didn't come across the Osteria del diavolo, but did have a very nice and reasonable lunch at the Taverna d'Attilla, which I infer was a little more traditional than your new find. as for the Basilica - I think that your DH describes it very well. i remember being struck by two things, apart from the mosaics - the fact that it was last renovated over 1000 years ago, and the view of snow on the Dolomites as we left, on a boat that was somewhat LESS crowded than the one you were on.

apropos of italian lessons, they tried to change the time of my conversation class to the day-time when i couldn't do it, but due to pressure from me and a few others, [and the fact that had they stuck to the alteration, they didn't have enough people to run the class] they've put it back to its old time. are you going back to the language school?
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Sep 12th, 2012, 12:55 PM
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Hi Ann and thanks for the kind words. We've only so far seen the snow-covered Dolomites hanging in the air once, en route to Lazzaretto Nuovo - it is breathtaking, isn't it? Re Italian classes - no, that's us done now, having had our 3 months at half price! I really need to try to work out some sort of conversational arrangement, though - as I believe Peter_S_Aus's DW did. It struck me on Saturday that my longest Italian conversations are with the lady in the draught wine shop! Well done on sticking to your guns and keeping your class when you need it.
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Sep 12th, 2012, 01:35 PM
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Well done on sticking to your guns and keeping your class when you need it.>>

i certainly need it - lol! I'm hoping to get to Sicily next spring and I want to be able to do more than say 'si" and "non`" in what I hope are the right places. but also we have a good time and a laugh, as well as meeting socially occasionally.

do they have the equivalent of the advert in the post office window where you could advertise for other people to converse with? or for a 50/50 arrangement? or is there a noticeboard at the language school that you could post something on? how often do you get to the draught wine shop? [you don't HAVE to answer that!]
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Sep 13th, 2012, 03:44 AM
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Thanks Ann, good suggestions. Twice a week, normally - but you didn't ask how much I buy each time
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Sep 13th, 2012, 01:22 PM
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Twice a week, normally - but you didn't ask how much I buy each time >>

LOL, do they do half bottles, Caroline?

there was one of these excellent establishments just outside the entrance to the courtyard where our apartment was, and we were in there quite often in the week we stayed there. it's round the back of the campo san bartolomeo, as I think I've said before. where is your "offie"?
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Sep 13th, 2012, 02:14 PM
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We'll be able to see Antiche Carampane from our apartment window this coming holidays. We'll be there for holloween, Feast-day of the Madonna della Salute, american thanksgiving, Christmas, new year and epiphany. Would love to meet you and your husband, Caroline, over drinks.

annhig, I know the San Bartolomea area pretty well. We stayed in two different apartments above the Rosticceria Sa,n Bartolomeo - two months in 2009 and two months in 2010. We have been "living" in Venice two or three months every year since 2007.
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Sep 17th, 2012, 11:49 AM
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OP, if you are still out there? The acqua was fairly alta today (to the extent of some vaporetto routes being affected), but it didn't reach the top of the steps inside your water gate.

Today's farmers' market news - there was an additional salumeria, which however I didn't try today. But I have decided the porchetta from the original butcher's stall (Pastrello) may be the best pork I've ever tasted! And only E10/kg.

Ann, ;-) My old regular is the one in the Campo dei Carmini, which used to be on Calle Lunga San Barnaba (there's a different outfit there now). Now we are not at school and going to Dorsoduro all week any more, I usually shop there on Saturday & top up as required at the place round the corner from us on Calle de le Botteghe, Dai Do Cancari - or Dai the Wine as we call it!

baby2, that will be great - see my response to Tarquin above re getting an email address for us from DH's blog.
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Sep 17th, 2012, 12:33 PM
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Caroline, hello!

Since your comment to the "OP" is about acqua alta affecting "my" water gate, I'm guessing that you may be directing your comment to me, rather than Wrenwood? If I'm right about that--thank you so much for the info about our water gate--I've been checking the weather in Venice and wondering about that! And if your comment is not directed to me--well, it's still helpful anyway.

Either way, I've been meaning to respond to the additional Venice info that you and others have posted since I last responded--thank you, thank you. My husband and I will be departing the U.S. this Saturday, arriving Sunday in Venice--I'm so excited I can hardly stand it! Unfortunately, I've been overwhelmed by some family and workplace issues that have taken up a lot more of my time recently, plus all of the stuff to do getting ready for our trip, so I haven't had much time to catch up on the Forum.

Coincidentally, I googled the Santa Marta market today and on several websites it gives the hours as 2:00pm to 7:00 pm. That seems different from your descriptions. Perhaps it's just more incorrect information on the web.
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Sep 17th, 2012, 12:57 PM
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Ah - hi, RMMR2, yes I had got the 2 threads mixed up!

Yes, I think I said the first time we went to the farmers' market, we took the hours from the comune website (2-7) & turned up about 4 - but some stalls had already packed up. I asked one of the stallholders about it and he said it had been changed to start at 11, maybe because people don't want to shop after lunch when it's hot. No sign of it changing back, though! And we know the comune website (and others obviously cribbed from it) are wrong, don't we, as they say the Rialto market is open every day! The last couple of weeks I've got there c.11.30 and it's been quite busy. Maybe our paths will cross there next Monday - buon viaggio!
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Sep 17th, 2012, 01:05 PM
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That would be wonderful--we are definitely planning to go there on Monday!
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