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Is $10,000 budget for 2 weeks in France and Italy enough?

Is $10,000 budget for 2 weeks in France and Italy enough?

Old Jan 24th, 2013, 05:11 AM
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Hey b,

> We would like to start in Paris for 4-5 nights then on to the Alps for a stay somewhere for a night or 2, then on to Venice, Florence, and finally Rome. Is a budget of $10,000 doable?

Yes, but you will be rushing.

Skip the alps.
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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 11:44 AM
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I definitely agree with the others about slowing down and decreading the number of destinations in the trip. With 2 weeks, I would go to Paris and the Alps or Paris and Italy - or perhaps Paris and the french countryside or just Italy Definitely don't try to cram too much in. Europe is small geographically, but at the same time, every time you move locations, you will burn up a lot of time travelling, checking out of hotels, checking into hotels, getting settled, etc. - time that you could have otherwise spent sightseeing, hanging out, etc.

For costs, we usually try to keep our hotel rates under 100 euro/night, sometimes with breakfast included. I think the most expensive European hotel I have stay in cost 125 euro/night. Food, drinks, incidentals, local transport averages 100 euro for the 2 of us. Then there is another 50-100 euros a day for trains, car rental, tours, entrance fees, shopping, etc. Some days we spend very little money other than to feed ourselves, other days we will have a bit of a shopping spree or do a more expensive activity. Some of the most fun days we have are when we spend almost nothing
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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 12:01 PM
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Your budget is fine - unless you want upscale hotels and Michelin * dinners. But I think you're trying to squeeze too many destinations into two few days.

(We would spend more but we travel in a fairly upscale way - and we use points for air fare.)

You should be able to get pleasant hotels for 200 euros per night and meals can cost whatever you want. You won;t have to stint at that budget.)
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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 03:01 PM
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THis a bit dated but a good format to use:

Italy Travel Budget for 2010

Independent travel to Europe continues to be popular with American tourists, and it seems that Italy has become everyone's favorite destination. This phenomenon is certainly not difficult to understand for those of us who have learned to savor BELLA ITALIA.

After a drop in cost in 2009---primarily due to lower airfares---the airfares have increased again in 2010. The airlines have cut the total number of flights and available seats and the supply/demand line has headed north. This itinerary assumes flying from Indianapolis to Venice and returning from Milan in late September—an increase of $280 per couple.

During the past ten years I have been fortunate to have planned more than 265 personalized itineraries for independent travelers to southern Europe, most of them to Italy. Understandably, one of the first questions I get from a prospective client is about the projected costs. My quick answer is the obvious one, “that depends on you and your preferred travel style". As we delve deeper it becomes clear that the style choices of would-be- independents can vary widely from youthful backpackers to luxury five star jet-setters. We will ignore these extremes for now and concentrate on the more mainstream middle ranges that we will label as 2, 3, and 4 star budgets.

Here are some assumptions for our typical itinerary [ based on an actual client trip] :
• This is a 14-day [13 nights] itinerary to Italy for a two people during the shoulder months of April, May, Sept. and Oct. These are the best months for travel to Italy.
• Arrival into Venice and departure from Milan, or vice versa, with tourist class tickets
• The 2-star budget assumes all rail or bus travel. The rental cars options include insurance and mileage, and are for a six day rental period. Car choices are compact/manual [3 star] and mid-size/auto [4 star]. Prices are from Autoeurope.
• All prices assume an exchange rate of one euro= $1.30. I would add 10% to the accommodation prices if you plan to spend all of your time in the major art cities.
• This budget was calculated based on a typical itinerary to include the four destinations of Venice, Florence, rural Tuscany, and Lake Como—13 total nights.

Now that we have our parameters set let's go ahead and plan our budget. Remember, this is for planning purposes only and is really controlled by you. You may decide to blow the budget on Murano glass, Florentine leather, or Bellagio silk—not hard to do.

AIRFARE - 2 PEOPLE 1840 1840 1840

RAIL/BUS/TAXI 240 60 90
CAR RENTAL N/A 468 730
* PETROL N/A 140 180
* TOLLS N/A 50 50
TOTAL TRANSPORT $2080 $2558 $2890
HOTELS & INNS - 13 NITES 1900 2800 4000
FOOD & DRINK 1200 1500 2100
TOURISM COSTS 400 400 600
MISC. EXTRAS 150 150 200
DAILY LIVING TOTALS $3850 $5050 $7200

TOTAL TRIP COSTS: $5930 $7608 $10090

Let me emphasize that these cost projections are merely estimates and will vary widely based on seasonal variations and desired destinations. The fact is that some couples may enjoy a great two-week adventure in Italy and spend less than $ 4000, while others may let a commercial tour company make the decisions for them and end up spending $ 15,000.

As a typical 3-star traveler, I have seen my personal trip costs increase from about $5,000 to more than $8,000 over the past ten years. Our current strategy is to stay longer in one location and rent apartments. We did that our past 2 trips to Italy and will again in 2011.
It allows us to save on hotel costs and to only eat out one meal per day.

Is it worth it? You bet it is! Independent travel in Europe is not for everyone but it is my passion. After some 26 creative sojourns, most of them since 1984, I cannot wait to begin planning my next adventure. That is precisely the reason that I enjoy doing it for others. It is like a crossword puzzle for me - so satisfying when it all comes together.
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