iPhone in Paris - question from a novice

Apr 9th, 2012, 03:27 PM
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Well, I guess I will rent a phone as planned for phone calls, use my iPad with wifi and see what happens with my iPhone 4. I will report back. I have one more source to try at Apple, but I think the best info comes from people who've gone to Europe and tried.
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Apr 9th, 2012, 04:09 PM
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You will be fine...I have been able to use everything on WiFi with my iPhone (AT&T service). I don't make calls, so don't get it unlocked and don't buy a SIM card...just email, Fodors and apps on WiFI.
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Apr 9th, 2012, 05:41 PM
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What does the CityMaps2Go app do different from using Google maps? It sounds like both work without 3G or WiFi (when already downloaded)
We want to be able to use the maps on an iTouch or iPad.
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Apr 9th, 2012, 07:43 PM
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If ATT is your provider you will be fine (although their fees are high); if Verizon is your provider, unless you have the IPad 3, you will only be able to use it with wifi as noted above--and the same with your iPhone 4--IF your provider is Verizon. Renting a phone is probably the easiest for phone calls.
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Apr 9th, 2012, 08:40 PM
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blh - the 2Go apps are all usable completely offline. I didn't realize you could do that on Maps, so that may be no different. The apps do have points of interest (museums, for example) already stored on the map, which is helpful.

What I find most helpful are the city-specific versions (Paris2Go, Rome2Go...). In addition to having the offline map, they have metro/subway/tube maps where applicable, and Wikipedia information on lots of attractions, all available offline. I was recently in Paris and used Paris2Go all the time.

520 - I'm surprised you had so much trouble connecting to wifi. That was not at all my experience with my 4S - no trouble at all connecting to my hotel wifi, for example, or one cafe where the code was on the bottom of my receipt. I'm sorry you had that frustration.
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Apr 10th, 2012, 05:05 AM
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CPK, I bought a phone from Mobal for $49 a few years ago. It has its own phone number, which I only give to people to reach me in emergencies (it is a UK number, however so will be a toll call for them from the US). If you're not expecting to actually use it a lot, it works out well. Incoming texts are free, and calls get charged to my credit card. As I've never had need to use it other than to call a driver in Paris once, the piece of mind that folks at home can reach me in an emergency is worth the minimal fee which I've now amortized over 4 trips to Europe.
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Apr 11th, 2012, 06:33 AM
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iphones can be programmed to automatically download e-mail via the cellular networks and place them in your "mail" icon. If your phone is in Airplane mode, you have NO access to cellular networks, hence no mail in your mail icon. You can still go to your e-mail server via the internet, but they won't load into your phone's message center. For example, to retrieve gmails, you must go to google, log in using your user id and password, and then have access to email vs. just opening your mail icon and looking at them.
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Apr 11th, 2012, 06:38 AM
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As for the Paris municipal "free" wifi, it is usually named Orange on the list of available servers. Simply select it, go to any webpage, when it comes up you'll get an icon that will tell you to select your paris wifi pass good for 2 hours. After 2 hours, you'll need to reselect a new pass.
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Apr 11th, 2012, 01:58 PM
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apersuader65 - When I used my iPad in Italy using wifi only (no 3G), I got my gmail as I normally do through my mail icon. I never logged into gmail to get it. It worked the same way as 3G.
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Apr 12th, 2012, 09:22 AM
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I used my iphone3s last year in Paris and had to go to the internet first. I also had my data on manual push, and never pushed it, so it may have picked it up that way, but I was concerned about getting slammed with data costs and wasn't willing to risk a large amount of data getting billed to me. We were out of town for 13 days and I recieved a total of 421 e-mails during those days. My bill would have been huge.
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Apr 12th, 2012, 11:46 AM
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apersuader, I think the manual push is your answer. I have mine set to fetch every 15 minutes, but kept data roaming turned off on my trip unless I was actively using it. Once I got in wifi range, it picked up emails just as usual.
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Apr 12th, 2012, 01:24 PM
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I figured it would work with no costs using the internet, but I knew I would have a TON of emails sitting in my box as I had numerous things going on at work via e-mail and I didn't want to risk a $100+ data usage bill to try. I'll note that for next year's trip!
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Apr 12th, 2012, 07:48 PM
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In Italy, I believe my iPad was set to cellular data off, push on, fetch every 15 minutes. I had total access whenever there was wifi.

Similar to my original question, if my iPad had been Verizon, using the above settings, could I have Internet access in Europe?
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Apr 13th, 2012, 11:36 AM
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Wifi is completely different than the cellular networks. It doesn't require it to be unlocked or any of the other requirements for cellular use. Wifi is wifi. If you have it, you can use it. What I didn't know was that the Wifi would work directly with the rest of the apple system and load e-mails onto the phone as normal. That'll be great for next year's trip.
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Apr 13th, 2012, 04:20 PM
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Question from a new iPad owner:

How do you download the Google maps on the iPad with wifi for later use (while driving)?


Thanks!!
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Apr 13th, 2012, 07:45 PM
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You click on the Maps app that is already on your home screen.
Click on Directions (upper left on screen)
Fill in two locations (upper right on screen) *
Hit search on keyboard.
You will then get a map with a blue route.
On bottom of screen, there are 3 icons - car, bus and walking.
Click on the one that you want, then click on start.
It will show you one or more suggested routes.
On blue strip (on bottom), you may see three little horizontal lines arranged vertically. If you click on them, you will get step by step directions.

* In between, is a 'switch' icon. You can reverse the direction if you choose.

Using two fingers, you can expand and contract the map to see more or less detail.

Another nice feature, is that when you key in an address, 'recents' will pop up. I have pre-entered addresses (my hotels, restaurants, etc.) It saves a lot of time

eks - try this in NY before you go so that you're familiar and comfortable with this.

Do you have Apple One-to-One? It was very helpful to me to get up to speed before going to Italy when my ipad was new.
You probably know this already, but the Notes app is very useful in cutting down on carrying paper notes. I had all hotel and restaurant reservation info in there. You can also email notes to yourself. And if you're carrying your ipad around, it's great to make notes of what you're eating.
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Apr 13th, 2012, 07:51 PM
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The Notes app icon looks like a yellow legal pad.

Also, when on the road, the last map loaded using wifi was available. I could not load new maps outdoors if there was not wifi available.
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Apr 13th, 2012, 07:54 PM
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One last thing, when I say click, I really mean tap. I get so confused. One day in the Apple store, I tapped on a Mac screen! It so easy to get used to tapping.
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Apr 14th, 2012, 03:55 AM
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Thanks so much for taking time to write all that out! I've seen the maps and played around with them but did not go beyond that. I will sit with it near the computer later and try to follow your steps. I will take it to Italy in September and am quite excited. I have to upgrade the system on my home computer so I can have iCloud.

One-on-One is not available, or so I was told, with a new iPad purchase, only for computers. But I have taken one of the group beginner workshops (Getting Started with iPad; I actually took this twice!) ) and signed up for the second part to be held this week.
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Apr 14th, 2012, 03:59 AM
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But wait, CPG....can you use these maps offline? How do you download them so you can see them while driving?


Or when you talked about downloading them, did you mean this app:

http://ulmon.com/

Does this mean that for $1.99 you get ALL their maps, or just the maps for one city?
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