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I'm going to get clobbered for this, but about Paris...

I'm going to get clobbered for this, but about Paris...

Old Nov 12th, 2005, 03:43 AM
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Thanks Margie. This post just made me realize why I love Paris. My job in the US is extremely stressful. It is routinely listed as one of the professions with the highest divorce, suicide, and alcolholism rates. My escape is to Paris where I can relax enjoy the beauty of the city, art, and architecture and absorb the fact that the Parisians, to my delight, are disinterested and dispassionate to me. You are surrounded by thousands of people, yet you feel like you have this beautiful city all to yourself.
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Old Nov 12th, 2005, 04:59 AM
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Paris? Meh. Can live with or without it. It's not in my top ten favorite places, but few cities are. I'll continue to use the airport and will even visit again if it's part of a tour I'm on. I just can't go ga-ga over it. Can't stand MOST of the locals, but thier being snooty and aloof is preferable to the rudeness and attitudes of New Yorkers (I live 50 miles away and we've been invaded by them every weekend).
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Old Dec 22nd, 2005, 11:54 AM
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^^^ topping for heavens from the US board
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Old Dec 22nd, 2005, 02:37 PM
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Old Dec 22nd, 2005, 03:01 PM
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Although the original poster expected to be blasted, I don't think it is deserved. Posters should be able to vent about negative experiences. It sounds also as if they really tried to be positive and were not "ugly Americans." Some of you really come off as travel snobs sometimes as if you only have wonderful experiences everywhere you go. I have the sneaking feeling some of you are the dopey Americans I see while on my vacations, thinking you're experts while the natives snicker behind your back the same as anyone else. Don't think it's not the same everywhere. I've lived in tourist cities all of my life, from Va. Beach to D.C. and Chicago. We can all learn from someone's gripes.

I go abroad 2-3 times a year (hey, that's pretty good for an elementary teacher!) and have been since my 1st college study summer in '92. I have been to Paris 3 times. I was enamoured after my "summer of love" experience in '92--who wouldn't be? I was 19 and met a gorgeous waiter who took me around to a lot of local haunts. Sigh...the summer of '92...I recall warm weather, easy breezes, lights, clubs, cafe lunches...etc. I even went back in '93 while still "with the waiter." I thought I was an expert on Paris and made it my mission to show my best friend around a few years later, then my hubby recently. The subsequent trips were disappointing to myself and my companions. I found, and do still, today's Paris dirty, stinking of piss, and true Parisians hard to come by. Chirac seems to have failed to recreate old France. True French culture seems to be dying--living off fumes from the past. It will only get worse if the population of native Europeans continues to decline. They needs to makes babies! The worst disappointment of all? Of all American pop culture we could have exported, and what do the youth of France adopt? Our gangsta rap, and I mean the worst of it-the kind even the other rappers rap against! I do blame us for that trash. "French" guys feeding me lines of rap while I am walking down the street just made me nauseous, not to mention the filthy grafiti written in English.

All that being said, you can still visit the cultural spots, the world-class museums and the countryside and enjoy yourself immensely. A teacher friend rents a house in Provence each summer with family/friends, bikes, cooks and enjoys herself at the pool. She stays clear of Paris and flies into Nice.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2005, 05:26 AM
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I apoligize in advance. I try not to blast people on this board but...
<Some of you really come off as travel snobs...dopey Americans I see on my vacations... natives snickering behind backs>
Then poster goes on to explain how often she travels, summer of love made expert on paris, ect...

Look in the mirror!

I have this image of sitting on a park bench with my European relatives and imagine you as one of those travel snobs that they are snickering at.

I'm sorry, I though the purpose of this board was for people to ask questions of other people regarding their travel experiences. Since many of us try to see life as "glass half full" of course we tend to reflect on the most positive experiences during our travels. (And we have all had our share of blundering cultural errors.)

Hence I apoligize for myself and all the other travel snobs for trying to reflect positively to other posters regarding their concerns and not dwell on lifes little annoyances that we cannot change.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2005, 08:25 AM
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>>I found, and do still, today's Paris dirty, stinking of piss<<

I'm so glad that they cleaned up Paris for me while I was there this past October. I looked for the dirt and the stink...and didn't see it...I guess maybe I was confused and went to Paris, Texas instead?
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Old Dec 23rd, 2005, 08:39 AM
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"look in the mirror" I DO! I don't view myself as immune from natives' snickering. I make plenty 'o' mistakes when travelling. My post was not meant to rip Paris; rather, to defennd someone reflecting on their trip, the negative along with the positive. The ORIGINAL poster liked the city but not the peeople. My viewpoint is that they should not be blasted for including that sentiment in a trip report. My personal experiences of Paris were included to underscore the notion that a city, depending on your situation and experiences, can be perceived quite differently during another visit.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2005, 09:00 AM
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I shouldn't care, but since I am waiting for someone in a Starbucks today with too much coffee in my system, why not? An addendum to my response above: The POINT of the post was not for me to come off as a travel expert; rather, I was making fun of my youthful self thinking I was an "expert" on Paris and empathizing with the original poster who mistakenly travels with rose-colored glasses.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2005, 11:20 AM
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I haven't bothered to read this ressurected thread. The real problem with it is that it is so obviously a troll post. Why even bother. Let it die a well deserved death by not posting to it.
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