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Ihlara Valley, Cappadocia Temporarily Out of Bounds

Old Feb 29th, 2012, 01:39 AM
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Thanks for the nice comments about my photo. I now realise I could have taken a much better one if I'd wandered a few tens of metres to the right. Basically I just jumped out of my car and took a few snaps without thinking about it too much.
I reckon if you choose your spot you could take some really nice photos from above.
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Old Feb 29th, 2012, 08:07 AM
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kja, unfortunately I did not make it to Soganli, but I hope you find what you are looking for. Rest assured it will be an amazing trip no matter what--one of my top trips for sure!
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Old Feb 29th, 2012, 07:00 PM
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kja:

Hotels and Highways will be on tour in the west next month, but another Eastern tour is scheduled some time next year. We had a Tower Family Jam at Dari(Syd's wife, my granddaughter) and Syd's new place in Ventura two weeks ago..and Syd sat in with my son and DIL who were performing locally. We were all there and had a blast.

Stu (kja, keep me posted on your final Turley plans...I can recommend a cave hotel that we favored and where I recommended Aduchamp stay..The Esbelli Evi in Urgup. See my Turkey pics at the beginning of this thread...the cave is also featured. You can email me: rozstu1 at aol dot com)
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Old Feb 29th, 2012, 09:04 PM
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I’m not sure how you got that last one of your “Spring Show” series – the one of me – but its nice to be able to visualize myself in Turkey.

Please do not get stoned in Turkey, it is frowned upon.
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Stu's recommendation of Esbelli Evi was spectacular.
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Old Feb 29th, 2012, 10:19 PM
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The more I learn about the Monastery Valley, the more I think it will suit me extremely well. In fact, I’m even wondering how I missed it the first time around! How I love the answers one can find here on Fodor’s!

Croesus – I will definitely keep your advice in mind, but I think you’re talking about asymptotic differences. If I see anything that vaguely approximates what you saw, I’ll be happy! If I find anything even better, I fear I might lose my footing and take a terrible fall.

Yorkshire – I am absolutely certain that you are correct: It WILL be an amazing trip, no matter what it ends up holding for me – how can I miss with a destination like Turkey? I am so lucky to be able to travel!

Stu
➢ Sounds like a joyous family get-together! I’ll look forward to the news of H&H’s next visit to the east coast.

➢ I remember being inspired by your photographs of Turkey the 1st time I saw them; they don’t lose power with a second viewing! (And that’s true of the pics you have so generously shared of the other places you’ve visited, too.)

➢ keep me posted on your final Turkey plans … I would love to have your input, Stu! I drafted my itinerary with the much appreciated help of a number of helpful Fodorites, so the thread is a bit long. The itinerary I’m working with is basically the one I laid out in my message of 19 Jan at 1:55 p.m. for days 1 – 16 and 20 - 25, tweaked for days 17-19 as indicated in my message of 25 Jan at 11:46 p.m. Nothing is written in stone, so please feel free to share your insights! See:
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...m#last-comment

Stu & adu -- I appreciate the recommendation for the hotel in Urgup. Some years ago, I spent a wonderfully memorable night at one of the cave hotels in Matera, Italy. It was a gorgeous place that was almost perfect. The one problem was that it was WAY too humid. I spent the night alternating between the air conditioner (which made the room damp and chilly) and an open window (which meant steamy heat), and I was decidedly worse for wear in the morning. Nothing a few cups of delicious coffee didn’t mend, but still…. I have no regrets whatsoever about staying there – it was a very special experience, but when it comes to cave hotels, I’m inclined to think “been there, done that.” So, for my first few nights in Cappadocia, I’m planning to stay at a small, well-reviewed non-cave hotel in Goreme that has a terrace with views over fairy chimneys and staff who have been truly amazing in their responses to date. Ex: I asked about the closure of the Ihlara Valley more than a month ago, and was told the closure was likely temporary. Just last week, when there was a news report that the valley would be closed for at least 3 more months, that person immediately e-mailed me to let me know and to recommend an alternative. I am VERY impressed that he remembered my inquiry and followed up so responsively!


Aduchamp1 - Much as I usually enjoy your esoteric and quirky sense of humor, I must ask you, PLEASE do not joke about getting "stoned" in Turkey! Images from The Midnight Express still haunt. Let me be clear: I WILL NOT get stoned in Turkey. I am truly glad that you have chosen to share your experiences and expertise with me as I plan my trip, and hope you understand my concern about how your undoubtedly innocuous remark might be misunderstood. I trust that stones will not quash me in Turkey, and I do not anticipate being turned into stone in Turkey. And truth be told, my bone structure will never actually resemble the gorgeous, if damaged, statue that was the last photo in your “Spring Show” series, so no one will ever even think I might have been turned into stone there or elsewhere. I do hope to see stones in Turkey, maybe even including some that have been carved with frowning faces. I do not expect to frown upon any stones I see there. And whatever these experiences with stones might be, I WILL NOT get stoned in Turkey.


Again, my thanks to all!
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Old Mar 29th, 2012, 06:07 PM
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I just heard that Ihlara Valley has been re-opened. Can anyone confirm?

And now that I have become enamored of the idea of visiting Monastery Valley, does anyone have any further comments to help me decide between the two?

Thanks!
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Old Mar 29th, 2012, 09:21 PM
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Definitely the Ihlara valley.
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Old Mar 30th, 2012, 06:55 AM
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Ihlara Valley is now open for tourism in general, according to the director of culture and tourism of Aksaray province.

he also said that, there is some work being conducted t certain parts of the valley in terms of safety for the historic sites and for the visitors and those individual areas will be opened for visitors at the conclusion of the works.

The statistices show that 300,000 people visited Ihlara valley and the over 90 churches and other sites in the valley in 2011.

Final note : Although not as deep as the Grand Canyon, I do not recommend that you leave the valley at the wrong end where you would have to climb up the steps. They do not keep statistics of the foolhardy or give medals.
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Old Mar 30th, 2012, 10:39 AM
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kja...go with Ilhara..I'm so very happy that you'll have the opportunity now..if you have any problems do not hesitate to call on "Other"..he can be there for you. He told me so.
Adu can verify.
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Old Mar 30th, 2012, 11:36 AM
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I am always there stu, but in spirit only. This means I can solve spiritual problems, which are in the majority in that part of the world anyway. ja, just call ether794, after the standard area code.
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Old Mar 30th, 2012, 03:22 PM
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I went down and up the steps. If you are reasonably fit it is not a problem. Gujidebooks say that the best churches are near the steps.
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Old Mar 30th, 2012, 05:40 PM
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Thank you all - Ihlara it will be! (Unless, of course, things change again in the meantime.)

My plan had been to enter the valley near Ihlara and exit near Belisirma, which I think would mean that I would start with churches that have somewhat older Coptic influences and end with those with more Byzantine influences. And I would be able decide whether to go further north than Belisirma once I see how I feel and how much time has passed. Does that make sense?

BTW, other, feel free to start solving my spiritual problems now - no reason to put off until tomorrow what is so sorely needed today! I'm sure stu and adu will support you.

And Michael, I'm not at all sure I currently qualify as reasonably fit, but I figure that by the time I reach Ihlara, I will either have climbed up and around enough interesting places to be fit enough to proceed or I'll be stretched out in a hamam (or hospital) and won't have to worry about which hikes to take!

Thanks again, to all - much appreciated!
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Old Mar 30th, 2012, 06:16 PM
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Strike that plan - instead, I'll start not at Ihlara, but rather by going down the stairs by the tourist office and end at Belisirma. Sorry for the confusion!
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Old Mar 30th, 2012, 06:18 PM
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and sorry for the poor grammar! its the end of a LONG week. Thank goodness!
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Old Mar 30th, 2012, 11:34 PM
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Other's brother Kebap Dylan Chelebi is famous in Turkey for writing and singing, "Everyone Must Get Stoned, If the Minsistry of Tourism Can Charge An Extra 2 Lira For It."

Did you know that Tower is so old, he still has his library card from Ephesus?
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 09:17 PM
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It is amazing what one can learn hear on Fodor's! Makes me wonder if a library card from Ephesus was the real fountain of youth....
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Old Apr 1st, 2012, 11:40 AM
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Fountain of Youth?
Cousin Vinny would call it "da fountain of yute." (Inside joke for anyone who has seen Joe Pesci and Marisa Tomei in da Vinny flick).

Aduchamp, stop telling such personal things about your friend.
All reading was done on the premises. (Mel Brooks was the librarian 2,000 years ago). Those pre-Kindle stone tablets were too heavy to carry home.

Now, children, let's put this thread to rest until kja returns with her trip report and pics! Bon Voyage, Miss KJA!
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