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zago Aug 28th, 2007 03:52 PM

Ibis Hotel chain - Paris
 
A friend of ours who is from and lives in the Jura Mountains of France suggested that we stay in an Ibis Hotel chain hotel while we stay in Paris. Does anyone have any experience with these hotels? There seem to be a few in Paris. Which, if any, would you recommend or should we not stay in any of the chain's locations while in the city? Thanks.

richardab Aug 28th, 2007 03:56 PM

I don't think any of them are in the best area. think of them as the "Motel 6" of France.

WillTravel Aug 28th, 2007 03:58 PM

Some are in pretty good areas - like the Ibis Grands Boulevards and the Ibis Bastille.

But it's also quite possible you can find a Mercure or Novotel, which are somewhat nicer hotels in the same corporate family, for a cheap price too.

Try www.accorhotels.com to get a list of all possibilities in this company.

Travelnut Aug 28th, 2007 05:27 PM

It is rare to find room photos of an Ibis hotel, but here is one (the style is pretty standard/consistent):

http://www.parisby.com/ibisconvention/index.html

StCirq Aug 28th, 2007 05:45 PM

My guess is your friend thinks because you're American you want this type of chain hotel - I've known lots of French people who have this attitude. Not that there's anything wrong with it, if that's indeed what you want.

But is it? Why not stay in a charming non-chain Paris hotel? You don't have to pay more to do so.

llamalady Aug 28th, 2007 06:00 PM

We've stayed in quite a few Ibis hotels
out of necessity - but nary a one would I want to return to! I'd upgrade
to a Mercure or Novotel for sure.

PalenqueBob Aug 28th, 2007 06:00 PM

<I don't think any of them are in the best area. think of them as the "Motel 6" of France.>

proof of why you don't want to put much stock in things you hear on the Internet

Ibis are on par with Holiday Inns, not Motel 6, which accor hotels also owns in addition to much more upscale Ibis.

And some are in great areas - and all offer depenkdably modern clean rooms - they8 are not the proverbial Latin Quarter small non-chain hotels but also have dependable modern facilities like great showers, etc.

IMO Ibis hotels are amongst the greatest bargain for what they offer not only in Paris but many other European cities www.accorhotels.com or www.ibishotels.com

richarbab has not actually stayed in Ibis hotels, many centrally located to make such a ludicrous statement - anyway that's my take on it

Lizzy101 Aug 28th, 2007 06:25 PM

This chain is part of the Accor group, which has a range of hotels in differing standards. I also consider Ibis to be a bargain - always clean, modern facilities and sure, the rooms are generic, but that may be just right for the time and the place. We too stay in a variety of different places - some charming, some luxurious and some basic.

We have stayed in the Ibis in Paris and it suited us just fine at the time.You can be assured of the standard of accomodation.

rkkwan Aug 28th, 2007 06:40 PM

Accor actually owns Motel 6 too!

Ibis is not Holiday Inn. Holiday Inns in the US are mostly 3* hotels. Which is really similar to Mercure in the Accor group.

Ibises are more simply. I actually think they are equivalent to Motel 6 here, most of which are quite acceptable, despite some people's poor opinion of them. I think most will find that they're not as nice as Holiday Inn Expresses (known as Express by Holiday Inn in Europe and elsewhere).

rlgann Aug 28th, 2007 07:01 PM

We have stayed in Ibis hotels in many parts of France and have not been disappointed one time. True, they lack the charm of a many non-chain hotels but we have found them to be consistently clean and comfortable, with a friendly and knowledgeable staff and one of the best breakfast buffets in France. However, in Paris, I would opt for a nice non-chain hotel in the center of town. Thats part of the charm of Paris.

klondike Aug 28th, 2007 07:23 PM

Agree Totally with reglann above. And I personally equate Ibis with Holiday Inn more than a Motel 6.

When on the road continuously, we tend to stay at an Ibis every 3rd to 4th day because "you know what you're getting" and they have always had internet access in the room (we take our laptop). This is not the case in most of the hotels "with character/charm" in the smaller towns...they just aren't wired right in these older buildings. And we definitely like using our laptop.

For me in Paris, I stay in a one starred cheapie that oozes character because that's how I like to experience Paris...it "fits" my image and expectations of that city...not as comfortable (no a/c or elevator), but lots of fun to experience.


Graziella5b Aug 29th, 2007 02:14 AM

I have question for those Fodorites that are familiar with the Ibis Hotels: are they similar to Arcade hotels?. We have used the Arcade Hotels, many times when traveling with our children many years ago. In Paris, in Place Cambrone.
I used to like very much the Arcade Hotels, having stayed in all France and some cities in Germany.
Now with the Euro going up I might need to stay again in similar hotels, so I shall appreciate if someone can give me a clue about this.

kerouac Aug 29th, 2007 02:36 AM

Ibis Hotels are indeed quite similar to Arcade Hotels -- since all of the Arcade hotels have been rebranded Ibis. The Arcade name disappeared at least 10 years ago.

There are 55 Ibis Hotels in Paris. Most but not all of them are renovated older hotels, so they can have some quirky rooms -- sometimes much larger than a standard Ibis room. Others are the standard format modern Ibis hotels that one can find all over the place. The Ibis hotels in Paris are quite variable in price depending on the location -- from over 100€ a night down to 55-60€. You will see the variations on the Accor Hotels site.

Travelnut Aug 29th, 2007 03:57 AM

I've seen some Ibis hotels listed as 2* and others as 3*, also some have A/C while others do not.

Langcraft Aug 29th, 2007 04:53 AM

This past May, I spent 4 nights at an Ibis hotel just off the Place d' Italie (Av. Stephen Pichon). Luxurious it isn't, but if you want a place to sleep with a small measure of comfort and a cheap but filling breakfast, then the Ibis hotels are fine. I have stayed at the Lutetia, the Brighton and other expensive hotels on those occasions when I am traveling with my significant other.

Otherwise when on my own, the Ibis hotel I felt was just fine; about 80 Euros a night

LarryJ Aug 29th, 2007 04:55 AM

The Accor chain of hotels are my hotels of choice throughout France. I have stayed at many many Ibis hotels. You can always count on a very clean room, great bathrooms (no tub just showers)cable tv with one English language channel, wi-fi internet service available for a charge throughout hotel and a better than average breakfast buffet for a very modest price. I have also used many Mercure, Novotel, Etaps and a couple Formulaire 1 hotels. The rooms at Ibis are identical at all the hotels. Another advantage is you can cancel right up until 6:00 pm day of arrival.

Larry J

CRAZY4TRAVEL Aug 29th, 2007 05:24 AM

I've stayed in a few Ibis hotels (Lyon and Carcassone) which had little to no character. The two I stayed in had hard uncomfortable beds as well. They are considered mostly budget two star accommodation.

I've had better luck with the same chain (Resinter) in their more upscale choices of Mecure which are similar in quality to Holiday Inn and the Sofitel which would be 4 star quality.

I think there are some better choices in the budget category in Paris. It would be nice to have something with a little local character.

kerouac Aug 29th, 2007 05:32 AM

Most of us in France are just happy not to be faced with the faded flowery wallpaper of what is called a "hôtel de sous-préfecture" -- somewhat akin to the Bates Motel in Psycho.

PalenqueBob Aug 29th, 2007 06:03 AM

ETAP would be a more equivalent of Motel 6 in France - IBIS IME is better than Motel 6 - especially in that the lobbies have shops and restaurants.

Formule I in France is the lowest accor hotels - they share wc facilities with other rooms.

To equate Ibis with Motel 6 is silly, although Motel 6 may have revamped themselves in folks' minds they are still the bottom of the motel barrel - not so Ibis in Europe.

PalenqueBob Aug 29th, 2007 08:41 AM

One nice thing about IBIS for rail travelers is that it seems there is often an IBIS near the train station.

Like in Nice and Amsterdam the IBIS is right on an extension of the platforms - so even though not the proverbial quaint hotel it can be so convenient for rail travelers.

And at times, esp on weekends, when their usual business clientele is not there i guess, IBIS can offer reduced rates that are especially attractive.

WillTravel Aug 29th, 2007 09:20 AM

The Ibis site now shows pictures of rooms (and it seems to be the same picture for every hotel). But, as kerouac mentioned, I'm sure there are differences for hotels that aren't purpose-built:

An example:
http://tinyurl.com/27jy2f

Click on Virtual Tour of your room.


In case you are worried about losing local flavor, Europeans definitely use Accor hotels and definitely use chain hotels in general.

For families, note that Ibis hotels typically allow one free child under 12, which is often not the case at other French hotels (other hotels in the Accor family typically allow 1 or 2 children, with a few exceptions).

Also note that Ibis hotels are often air-conditioned, a rarity for 2* hotels in Paris.

kerouac Aug 29th, 2007 09:22 AM

In any case, I am a big fan of the buffet breakfast for 7€.

Christina Aug 29th, 2007 09:33 AM

They do have a couple well-located hotels in Paris, as others named. I think both the Ibis and Cambronne locations are fairly good (maybe that one was the Arcade?).

I think Ibis is about like Novotel on ratings. Ibis is mostly 2*, but there are a few with more amenties that are 3* (the one out by Porte de Clichy is, I believe, and has a pool). Novotel is mostly 3*, but they have a couple 4* ones around.

aeiger Aug 29th, 2007 11:53 AM

Hi
Last time I stayed in an Ibis, my shower was pulled out from the fawcett of the sink and hung in the shower. The room are fairly small and very basic. I don't think of them as Motel 6 equivelants. I think they are nicer but more basic. Try a Formula brand motel in Europe, if you think Ibis is like Motel 6,it is also owned by Accor. Novotel is better, a little more upscale. I just booked a room at the Novotel in Brussels airport.

PalenqueBob Aug 29th, 2007 12:14 PM

www.accorhotels.com seems to have the pecking order of its European hotels:

Sofitel
Novotel
Mercure
Suite Hotel
Ibis
ETAP
Formule 1

kerouac Aug 29th, 2007 01:02 PM

The Dorint chain is also being sucked into the Accor group little by little.

PalenqueBob Aug 30th, 2007 06:03 AM

I guess i'd put Dorints in between Sofitel and Novotel?

WillTravel Aug 30th, 2007 06:12 AM

In Berlin, there are some former Dorints which have become alternately Mercure, Novotel, and Sofitel, so I'm not sure there's a straight one to one correspondence.

kerouac Aug 30th, 2007 06:41 AM

The Dorint at CDG has been double-branded Dorint-Novotel.

PalenqueBob Aug 30th, 2007 07:04 AM

There's a Dorint at Amsterdam Schiphol airport that seems to have a different Dorint- second name, not Novotel but can't think of it

My shuttle bus to my ETAP airport hotel served that hotel too and it looked rather upscale compared to the IBIS next to my lower-rung ETAP

Accor i believe also owns Wagons-Lits so night train travelers are also Accor customers - wonder if that counts for points on their Accor discount card?

kerouac Aug 30th, 2007 09:40 AM

It may be noted that Accor also operates Club Med as well as Le Nôtre luxury catering.

It is also a partner of the Skyteam airlines (Air France, Delta, Alitalia, etc.), Europcar, SNCF, Thalys, the Total service stations and owns Courtepaille restaurants.

I have an American Express Accor card, and am really racking up the points without being rich. I always trade in my points for Accor hotel vouchers.

PalenqueBob Aug 30th, 2007 09:48 AM

And it seems they run cafeteria restaurants in Italian train stations - one in Termini Rome and SMN Florence - can't think of name but believe it's part of the Accor portfolio.

Jack - do you know much about who owns Accor - publically traded or dominated like Carrefour by some wealthy families i read - some from Spain.

Just curious - i do like the Accor hotels.

kerouac Aug 30th, 2007 10:11 AM

Accor is 10% owned by Colony Capital, a U.S. investment fund (since last month -- they used to own 3%). The second shareholder is the French Caisse des Dépôts, a major holding bank controlled by the French government. The rest of the capital is dispersed among public shareholders. I think I even own something like 33 shares of Accor. The internet site of my bank claims that they have gained 69% in value since I bought them 3 years ago.

Christina Aug 30th, 2007 10:32 AM

I stayed at a Dorint in Dresden which was labelled Dorint Novotel. There was also a Mercure in town, but I think it was supposed to be a bit more upscale than the Dorint. They had just bought some other hotel and made it a Dorint, it used to be something else not that long ago, though. The Dorint Novotel in Dresden was pretty upscale to me, it was a 4* hotel by the German system, and I think that Mercure was def. higher level than many Mercures, also. They also had several Ibis there.

I think Accor is a very good company, their stock might be good to have. They've been in the news due to some mgt. shakeups in last couple years regarding the CEO. It was founded by Gerard Pelisson and Paul Dubrule. This is probably more than anyone would want to know about the company and its history, but is interesting

http://www.answers.com/topic/accor?cat=biz-fin

Accor is publicly traded. Just go to the Bourse website and type ACCOR or AC into the search box to see what's up
http://www.daily-bourse.fr

Graziella5b Aug 30th, 2007 02:04 PM

Speaking of IBis around Europe, the one in Salamanca is well located a short walk from Plaza Mayor. We stayed one night and it was ok, buffet breakfast was a good deal. For 6 euros.


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