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I want your opinion on what to do with 24-25 days in italy with 3 and half yr old and gimpy-kneed husband

Old Oct 29th, 2005, 08:05 AM
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Absolutley go!! However, you will be walking alot. You should make sure to take lots of breaks and if there is alot of walking required for a day, take a metro or bus. Rome especially has great transportation. Your travel plans sound so fun. May I suggest that after your arrival in Rome, travel down to the Naples area for the Almafi Coast and Pompeii. I had a friend just come back from Pompeii and he said that he would have liked two days to see it all. Alot of people here just give a day to it and from what I hear they all regret it later. Then from there head up thru the Tuscan countryside. When you are in Florence you must go to the Uffizi. The Bottecelli room is worth the entry fee! I hope you have a great time and when your husbands knees hurt, take a break.
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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 08:14 AM
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If the car rental place in Orvieto is not open on Sunday, then go to Orvieto on Saturday, rent the car then and leave it in the Orvieto city/train parking lot overnight and take the funicular to the old part of town. Spend the night there perhaps at Hotel Duomo or there is another hotel on the piazza right across from the Duomo which would require no walking. If you are interested, drive one half hour to Civita for a very spectacular side trip.

Then drive to Pienza, probably a very pretty two hour drive( check to see how long)and spend a week there sight seeing in Tuscany.

Then drive to the Florence airport to return car- it is easier than in Florence- not much traffic although we didn't find returning the car in Florence to be very hard either. The rental place was a couple of blocks from the train station. Take a taxi from airport to Florence- it's not far. Spend a few days in Florence.

Take a train to Venice, and stay in Castello. The piazza Santa Maria Formosa is more entertaining for a Dad and three year old than the park in the Arsenale, and it is just a few steps from several hotels. We usually stay at Albergo Silva ( use the search on this forum to get more info)- it is less expensive but pleasant. It does have some stairs, but you could email to see if a first floor room is available. There is one flight of stairs to the front desk. Then after your visit to Venice, go by train to Rome.

Rome-
Orvieto 1 night
Pienza 1 week
Florence 3 nights
Venice 4 nights
Rome


I suggest that you get a copy of Rick Steves Italy. I think you will find it helpful, and it will make you feel more comfortable about traveling in Italy. Fodor's has a great book on Florence and Tuscany which highlights various drives in Tuscany.
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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 01:27 PM
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Slow down, ginder.....
Booking the Tuscany accomodation before looking at the car rental days and times is already causing things to be more complicated than necessary.

Orvieto sounds ideal for the car rental but there are dozens of family friendly properties in Tuscany that would likely suit your needs and budget, some that are rented by the day, or from Sat to Sat. All factors which would make everything easier for you. I'd cancel your accomodation until you get some logistics sorted out first.

And I would really consider a park, playground and pool an advantage for all of you when booking. It will be quite warm that time of year, especially with walking and touring. We liked Borgo San Luigi near Monteriggioni (tuscany.net/sanluigi) but there are many more to look at and consider.

Returning the car to Florence might work out very well if you pick it up in Orvieto. Less doubling back to see the things you want on day trips. The whole idea is to try and simplify the number of trains, buses, hotels, and packing and unpacking you need to do. We did day trips to Florence and parked in a city car park with no problem. That might be a good solution too.

Maybe spend a day or two thinking about things, looking at your travel guides again before doing anything else.

I find it helpful to actually write things down, set priorities, and work through the list with the guide books, mapquest.com (distances and times) and just reading other websites like frommers or tripadvisor.

You still have several months, so it's only the airlines that need to be booked right now!
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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 05:33 PM
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Thanks Branbal77 for your tips. Saraho thanks for itinerary, I did notice Civita too. I really liked your trip report. I will look up the hotel in Venice too.
Hi Tobiet Oh dear, the agriturisom sounded so great! But, I didn't do much searching. I will slow down. I have 7 guidebooks at the moment borrowed from library, but they couldn't get me in Rick Steves' Italy.Never mind.
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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 06:05 PM
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Hello ginder, I have followed your threads from the very beginning.

I think you have information overload.

But I have a question. Are you going to be the one driving the rental car or will your husband be doing most of the driving?

Will your husband be able to handle the luggage when you move from location to location while you take care of your little one or will you have to struggle with the luggage?

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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 06:40 PM
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Look at ricksteves.com

There is a lot of information, including several articles about Civita.
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Old Oct 30th, 2005, 12:39 AM
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Since you'll have the gimpy-kneed babysitter along, you can do whatever you want!
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Old Oct 30th, 2005, 03:58 AM
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Hi Loveitaly yes, I do have information overload. Reading trip reports and Guide books. Too many places that sound wonderful. My husband will do any driving. We will share the luggage and child. He works in construction with his gimpy knee so he should be able to handle some luggage. I have bought one of those large backpacks and one wheeled suitcase.Hi Saraho i will try that website after I have a rest.
Hi satnitcboy thats funny.
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Old Oct 31st, 2005, 11:56 AM
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I posted to the other version of this message.

In Florence: there is an organization called Canadian Island that has a toddler play centre and English speaking babysitters. Google the name and you should reach their site.

If you can afford to have a babysitter along with you throughout the trip, the pressure will be off if your husband's knee is acting up (or your toddler is -- I went to Florence with my daughter when she was four)

There is a playground in Florence at the Piazza D'Azeglio -- it is next to the Synagogue which is a lovely building and tour and restaurant especially good if you need a break from Italian food (Ruth's restaurant -- closed on the Jewish sabbath -- Friday night and Saturday). Kids can fly kites and run around at Fortezza da Basso and in Cascine park. THere is an area in the center of the city near Piazza della Reppublica where three (?) brass inlaid circles (like circular frames in the stone) designate where street artists may make pastel drawings... my daughter made one with some sidewalk chalk we brought... many people took notice (and smiled) no repercussions from authorities. I would not recommend using the chalk elsewhere without asking someone if it is ok -- I saw some markings in the playground in Piazza D'Azeglio.

Day trips to many sites in Tuscany can be made by bus from Florence. They are clean and easy to use -- usually depart from the main train station.

Re: gelato... gelato is plentiful in FLorence and in most parts of Italy. Florence: Perche no and Carambe are lovely

Re: another post mentioning feeding pigeons in Florence... DON'T DO IT. There are places where this is illegal and you may even get a fine.

Check out the public buses -- ATAF company. There is a bus that makes a loop around the city and some that make smaller ones within certain neighborhoods if you need a break from walking.

You may want your husband to take along a cane and display it prominently if you need to wait in line... the combination of cane and kid can make for a shorter wait... do not hesitate to speak up and by all means make as many museum reservations in advance!

To stay clear headed and perhaps not be tempted to overreach in planning. Get a real (to scale) map of Italy, like a road map, and circle each point of interest, connect with lines and write down just how many kms/miles you will need and approximately how long it would take to train or drive. You may be dissuaded from planning for too much by seeing this graphic.
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Old Dec 16th, 2005, 01:57 PM
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Hi Susanne
Never thanked you for your helpful info. I was just rereading suggestions and noticed this.We will be in Florence in May. May be too busy for us. Any hotel or apt recommendations?
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Old Dec 16th, 2005, 02:38 PM
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ginder,

re. Venice:
For the reasons stated above, I strongly suggest you go back to slowtrav.om and research APARTMENTS in Venice for your family in lieu of a hotel room there.
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Old Dec 18th, 2005, 03:56 AM
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Hi Bardo1, thanks for suggestion. We have booked a studio style room with kitchen etc.in San Polo.
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