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Hungary, Germany, Austria, Switzerland
Good day, fellow travelers. I am working on a 14-day itinerary to Hungary, Germany, Austria, and Switzerland and was hoping for some input.
General Thoughts, Is it too packed/aggressive? Any changes you would recommend? Thanks for any input!
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Welcome to Fodors. Sorry -- but I'm just not up to reading any posts with hundreds of bullet points. :( Maybe after my first cup of coffee -- maybe.
Is it copied from some group tour itinerary -- It is cramming 4 countries into 12 usable days. But without reading any of it I can almost guarantee it is too complicated, you are trying to squeeze in too much, and if it is as regimented as I think (otherwise why sooooooo many bullet points?? ) it will likely go pear shaped more than once. |
This does seem like a pre-planned itinerary that someone else has devised. I like to get guidebooks or read multiple itineraries/trip reports for places I plan to visit and decide my top priorities. I try to plan for those and fit in other activities around my main plans. In other words, I try to have some structure but also leave room for spontaneity.
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Hi,
Almost all of your travel days have you arriving at 12.00, then having lunch 12.00-13.00, then continuing on with tourist activities. You have no time to check in & unpack. And each day, you are assuming that you'll be able to walk into a restaurant, be seated, look at the menu, order, eat, and pay within one hour. That's not going to happen. They list your journey from Munich to Wengen as 3h, when in fact it is 7 or 8 hours. Scrap this and start again. Best of luck! s |
Originally Posted by janisj
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Welcome to Fodors. Sorry -- but I'm just not up to reading any posts with hundreds of bullet points. :( Maybe after my first cup of coffee -- maybe.
Is it copied from some group tour itinerary -- It is cramming 4 countries into 12 usable days. But without reading any of it I can almost guarantee it is too complicated, you are trying to squeeze in too much, and if it is as regimented as I think (otherwise why sooooooo many bullet points?? ) it will likely go pear shaped more than once. |
Originally Posted by KTtravel
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This does seem like a pre-planned itinerary that someone else has devised. I like to get guidebooks or read multiple itineraries/trip reports for places I plan to visit and decide my top priorities. I try to plan for those and fit in other activities around my main plans. In other words, I try to have some structure but also leave room for spontaneity.
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Originally Posted by swandav2000
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Hi,
Almost all of your travel days have you arriving at 12.00, then having lunch 12.00-13.00, then continuing on with tourist activities. You have no time to check in & unpack. And each day, you are assuming that you'll be able to walk into a restaurant, be seated, look at the menu, order, eat, and pay within one hour. That's not going to happen. They list your journey from Munich to Wengen as 3h, when in fact it is 7 or 8 hours. Scrap this and start again. Best of luck! s |
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I gave up after the first ten lines, I was especially un-impressed by the first meal in a NewYork restaurant in Budapest when you will be a few steps away from one of the oldest places to eat in Budapest.
I advise a lot of people, this one is the first I've ever walked away from. |
OK -- that's better -- but still a lot of duplicate bullets ;)
You have: Arrive June 6 Budapest June 7-8 Budapest June 9 Travel to Vienna June 10 Vienna June 11 Travel to Salzburg - Lake Hallstat en route June 12 Salzburg June 13 travel to Munich June 14 Munich June 15 Wengen June 16 Lauterbrunnen June 17 Murren June 18 Grindelwald June 19 Interlaken June 20 travel to Bern Now maybe you can see how rushed this is |
I'm exhausted just reading this. I agree, it seems like you cut and pasted it from an itinerary for a group tour. Glad you're looking to adjust it. Way too regimented. Figure out what YOUR must-sees are and start from there.
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Just no.
Four countries in 14 days is nuts. |
The New York Cafe is quite a distance from Castle District.
this itinerary would kill me in 24 hours. |
Your proposal looks as if it is the brochure advertising a bus tour, especially when it describes views and recommends specific foods. In general, individuals cannot duplicate that because the driver comes to pick you up, takes you to the sights, etc. As an individual, you will be using public transport, trains, etc., so you will have to figure those things out, plus you would not likely even want to duplicate such a tour. You will probably want to choose sights that most interest you personally and take whatever time you need for them. You might want to eat in small, local restaurants and use small locally owned hotels rather than big chains. In other words, you might want a more unique experience instead of a cookie cutter tour. Try to spend more time sight seeing and less time traveling. Do some research using guide books and the internet, travel forums, history articles, personal recommendations, etc., not tour and glib advertising brochures. OTOH, if you like the tour and it suits your budget, you could just take a tour, easy and all done for you.
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...and it's just not feasible. Just 1 exemple:
If you leave Munich June 15th at 9am, you will arrive at Wengen at 15.42 and check into hotel Beausite (700 m from railway station) at 16.10. You want then to "enjoy lunch at one of the mountain restaurants at Kleine Scheidegg", but you cannot arrive there before 17.08. You plan to stay there for 1 hr. You will then be back at Wengen at 19.10, a bit late for your planned gondola ride to Maennlichen and hike to Kleine Scheidegg (again?). |
I rarely, rarely offer advice here ...ask more questions...but my friend, this is way way ..way too much it will kill you all. Hard to do, you want to see so much, but choose like three locations..maybe four..spend a few days in each one, unpack and relax. Get a base and explore and take day trips etc. To me with limited time it's better to be in the mountains and smaller venues avoiding the large capitals and cities ...you get a better feel and experience for where you are visiting....but you may feel differently. You will be running your buns off and have no fun.
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Every time you travel to a new location you lose both time and the cost of transport. Two nights in one location really only give you a day or day and a half of sightseeing depending on how short your travel time is. Which places are your top priorities?
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With 12 days I would cut out at the very least one country. You could spend 4 days in Vienna or Munich alone. I also would not plan down to hour blocks what you will be doing, because inevitably travel doesn't work like this, things go wrong (missed train, illness, road accident, shoe loses its sole). If you really want to follow a plan like this then I would join a tour group, because this pace is sustainable with tours but if you want to do it on your own, being an inexperienced traveller you won't be able to keep up the same pace. Can I suggest you look into a tour, or pare back your plans significantly. Maybe three cities?
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