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catalina91 Nov 13th, 2014 10:59 AM

How long and how far have you gone without a visa?
 
I'm not talking about illegal traveling but I am saying I'm not going through the hassle of a visa. I was in Europe for 6 months before on a student Visa but now my boyfriend and I are going without one. I know you can stay in the Shengen region for 90 consecutive days and then need to leave for 90 and then come back. We are planning on going to the UK in the in between time.

We are looking at doing WOOF or work away to do hostel or farm jobs to keep us livin and traveling as long as possible.

What are your tips/expereinces/advice to keep us going and legal, and not going completely broke? Also, were any of you able to find pick up paid work as you went?

K & J

Alec Nov 13th, 2014 11:09 AM

You are largely addressing the wrong audience. Fodorites are mainly middle to senior age who don't need to pick up casual work to continue travelling, who stay in hotels and eat out in restaurants. You should ask people on Thorntree and other youth- and budget-travel oriented sites.

hetismij2 Nov 13th, 2014 11:24 AM

You can't do any work on a visitors visa, which is effectively what you have. You also have to be able to support yourself, and to have insurance or enough money to pay for any health care you need. Healthcare is not free, and can be very expensive.
UK immigration will also need proof that you can support yourself without working, and plan to leave again.

NewbE Nov 13th, 2014 11:25 AM

They may not be centenarians, but Alec IS right. Unless the OP wants lectures pointing out that every single thing she is doing is utterly wrong, or reminiscences of how it was done 50 years ago, or an entertaining mashup of both, this is not the place for her.

Good luck, catalina91!

NewbE Nov 13th, 2014 11:25 AM

Ah, I see that unasked for advice arrived while I was posting! I rest my case.

adrienne Nov 13th, 2014 11:38 AM

The OP asked how to keep going and legal and that is what hetismij2 is responding to so it will be helpful information to the OP.

You might consider less expensive countries such as Croatia or Romania.

People who post on this board usually have jobs at home or are retired and don't seek work abroad.

Check Let's Go guide books for travel tips on a budget or the Lonely Planet Thorntree forum for backpackers and young people.

janisj Nov 13th, 2014 11:43 AM

>>We are looking at doing WOOF or work away to do hostel or farm jobs to keep us livin and traveling as long as possible. <<

NewBe may disapprove (and I'm not nearly 100 yo) -- bit one can't do Woof or farm/hostel work (legally). If you can pay your way w/o working, and can convince the border agents in Schengen and the UK that you have the means, then you can do the 90 in/90 out as long as you want.

But do realize no one isn't "guaranteed" 90 days in Schengen or 6 months in the UK . . . that is what you are allowed IF the border agents approve you.

It is not at all like a generation or more ago when one could basically bum around Europe forever. Plus w/ all the eastern European immigrants there are few casual jobs going wanting.

Dickie_Gr Nov 13th, 2014 12:04 PM

"eastern European immigrants there are few casual jobs "

Not sure what this means Janis, they are technically residents of the EU and not immigrants.

Dickie_Gr Nov 13th, 2014 12:10 PM

One thing is clear and Janis does indirectly point to the issue. Many countries have joined the EU over the past 20 years, some lf these have had low paid, low skilled workforces and in many cases there has been a flow of this labour force within the EU into the existing countries with a generally high skilled work force.

A function of this has been a huge clampdown on individuald entering from outside the EU and trying to work without the correct VISA. The penalties sanctioned on British employers who break the law are severe.

https://www.gov.uk/penalties-for-emp...llegal-workers

janisj Nov 13th, 2014 12:22 PM

I just sloppily used the term to explain non-British folks flooding into the country. Not that they are 'illegal immigrants' or anything.

Dickie_Gr Nov 13th, 2014 01:28 PM

Be careful when you're here Janis.

Using the term "immigrant" in relation to individuals in Britain who originate from Eastern Europe may give the impression that you read The Daily Mail.

Not a good thing.

Alec Nov 13th, 2014 01:37 PM

<i>If you stay in the old quarter of Granada you will have to send the hotel the license plate number of your rental car so that you will be allowed to enter the area. There are automatic barricades set up to restrict traffic to residents, taxis and city buses.</i>

Plus they have automatic cameras to capture number plate when you drive into no-go area, which is clearly signed (in Spanish). And in bus lanes.

Michael Nov 13th, 2014 02:26 PM

<i>to keep us going and legal</i>

Not possible to stay legal if you intend to work without the proper visa.

adrienne Nov 13th, 2014 02:54 PM

I'm curious...what do you call people who move to Britain from other EU countries? Is it considered the same as moving from state to state in the US?

Lois2 Nov 13th, 2014 03:44 PM

well people seem to be having fun responding here but do note that OP here and Vera are one in the same....and Vera is a troll who re surfaces here with incredible regularilty...I don't come here often (I am sure Vera is sad about that) and each time I find this nonsense. Gone are the days where this was a serious travel forum

Alec Nov 13th, 2014 04:12 PM

EU migrants.

adrienne Nov 13th, 2014 05:09 PM

Thank you, Alec!

adrienne Nov 13th, 2014 05:10 PM

<< Gone are the days where this was a serious travel forum >>

I disagree. There used to be more nonsense then there is now. I find lots of serious posts that help me with my trips.

quokka Nov 14th, 2014 03:49 AM

>to keep us going and legal

>Not possible to stay legal if you intend to work without the proper visa.

Exactly this is the one and important point mentioned in this thread that you have to keep in mind. So either find out whether you have the chance to get a work permit or working holiday visa for some country/countries - you are not mentioning your nationality so whether the option exists is impossible to answer for us - or forget about working.


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