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# how is Camogli pronounced?

Aug 29th, 2009, 10:31 AM
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how is Camogli pronounced?

The title say it all. I have heard two pronounctions and obviously one is incorrect. Thanks
Aug 29th, 2009, 10:39 AM
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Hi; try this. kuh-moh-lee One meaning is 'houses close together'. Have stayed there three times and loved the town. Dick
Aug 29th, 2009, 10:42 AM
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I spent several nights in Camogli a few years back. It's either

CAH-mo-lyee (where the A is as pronounced in "ah" and the o is long)

or

cah-MO-lyee

Ordinarily I would expect it to be the first pronunciation.

BTW, Camogli is a wonderful place, scenic as all get-out and not spoiled by tourism, as is Portofino not far away.

Also BTW, the town's houses are painted such vivid colors, I am told, so the fishermen could gaze in from far out at sea and know which house was theirs.
Aug 29th, 2009, 10:50 AM
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KA-mo-lee, with accent on the first syllable.
Aug 29th, 2009, 11:19 AM
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the gli sound in Italian isn't lee, it's more like lyee; there's a y sound in there.
Aug 29th, 2009, 12:02 PM
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Yes, but in Camogli, the y sound is hardly perceptible and sounds more like -lee or leey.
Aug 29th, 2009, 12:22 PM
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Camogli

Ca- just a you pronounce (Ca)pital
Mo- Mo)town
(gl)i (gl) in Italian is the same
sound as the spanish double (ll)
or as a newYorker greet someone..Yoh?
i- the same sound as Biscott(i)
Aug 29th, 2009, 12:23 PM
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Yes, but the sound is there, Alec. It is often referred to as a 'liquid L' sound, and the usual example is the 'lli' in 'million'. The stress usually falls on the penultimate syllable. If the stress is on the last syllable it will be indicated (e.g. città), but if it falls on an earlier syllable, it is optional to show it with an accent. Why not wait till you get there and ask a native? The same story about sailors recognising their houses is told in Burano.
Aug 29th, 2009, 12:25 PM
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===as==
double ll-Caballo-
Aug 29th, 2009, 12:45 PM
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I would go with the "million" example for the Italian gli, and always thought that the Spanish ll was a yod with no "l" sound in it at all.
Aug 29th, 2009, 01:00 PM
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Michael, it depends on which part of Spain (or south or central America) you are in. The 'correct' or 'Castillian' Spanish has the 'liquid L' sound, as in 'million'. It's not 'cabal-yo', but nor is it 'cabay-yo', it's inbetween. In some places the 'll' is even pronounced as a 'j'.
There are a lot of cookery programmes on British TV, and it really hurts when chefs say 'tag-lee-a-tell-eh', but they have no problem with 'Puglia' or (slightly different) 'lasagne'.
Aug 29th, 2009, 01:10 PM
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The LL in(Mi(ll)ion) is not even close to the Italian (GL) sound..
It sound like Spanish (Caballo), but ending with the plural (i) that sound like biscott(i).
Aug 29th, 2009, 02:42 PM
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Of course, if the OP does not know Spanish, how useful is the comparison between Camogli and caballo? And on this site http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php, the Spanish word has no liquid L but a yod with the male speaker and a soft J (but as in English without the explosive D) with the female speaker. Both are Latin American speakers.
Aug 29th, 2009, 03:06 PM
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Oh well perhaps the OP can learn how to pronounce it the right way if she/he someday goes to Camogli..
Aug 29th, 2009, 03:46 PM
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Ca-mo-lee, with a funky "mumble, mumble" sound at the end. Thanks! Just kidding!

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