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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:08 AM
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How early to arrive at CDG - Air France to AMS, Thur morning?

I'm stopping in Paris at the end of my upcoming trip to the Italy and Croatia. I'll be going back to the states flying out of CDG early on a Thursday morning (mid-October) on an Air France flight, connecting in Amsterdam, for my final flight back to the states.

My AF flight departs at 7:20. How early should I arrive? I assume that there's no passport control since I'm flying to another Schengen country? (but I'll go through that at AMS I assume). I'll be checking one bag.

I've never flown out of CDG before. Is Air France a madhouse when you arrive for the first time? Will I be able to figure out where to check-in, etc. fairly easily?

Final question can't be answered that precisely yet since I don't know where I'll be staying in Paris yet...but about how early should I catch a taxi in Paris to get to CDG in the morning?
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:20 AM
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My last time through CDG I had an arrival the night before. In order to minimize risk next day of missing monring flight ( I was ~11AM), I stayed at a hotel at the airport (Sofitel) and took the 5 minute shuttle to the terminal. CDG is a buy place. In my case I was flying out on US Air. I think that the 3 hr early rule is not a bad idea.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:21 AM
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It is not a madhouse at that time of day. Security lines are very short at 7 a.m. They will want to see ID so they'll be glancing at your passport anyway, but not like an immigration officer. Check-in will close about 30 minutes before departure, but you probably wouldn't want to get to the airport later than 6:15 so you can get your bearings.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:22 AM
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Michel, don't confuse the time needed for U.S. flights with the time needed for Schengen flights.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:57 AM
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You are right. My only experience has been North America.
So ~1-1.5hr before for Schengen?
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 11:30 AM
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 11:32 AM
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I'll be flying to Bangkok in a week, and I know that there is no point in arriving more than 90 minutes ahead of time. When you don't have those dumb security interviews, it all goes much faster (what on earth do they think that a terrorist would reply to those questions about 'who has packed your baggage?').
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:42 PM
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CDG is pretty quiet at that time of morning. And you're not taking an international flight. So 1 - 1.5 hours should be sufficient.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:46 PM
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I would do the 3 hour rule. You never know! Last trip, I was in security for 1.5 hours. They did not like my electric scooter. That meant the line on my side was stopped for 1.5 hours, leaving 1 line to handle all the traffic.
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I just hope you have allowed time at Schiphol - the queues for Schengen to non Schengen transfers and vice versa were horrible this last week for passport checks.
At least the security is done at the gate at Schiphol so you aren't likely to miss the flight because of that.
I would say 1.5 to 2 hours before your flight at CDG. Just to be on the safe side. But then I'm a worrier.

St Circ - it is still an international flight - unless Amsterdam has been moved to France while I wasn't looking. Passports (or other ID) are still required.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 01:29 PM
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I have a 1:50 layover at Schiphol after arriving from CDG before my AMS-PDX flight. I've read elsewhere that that's quite doable under normal circumstances. (and my checked bag will be checked through I assume). Northwest would have booked the same ticket with a 1:10 layover but I opted to take the earlier flight to give myself a bit more time.

Three hours early at CDG seems a bit much. I'll probably shoot for 1.5 - 2 hours early. I don't know what AF would do if I missed the 7:20a flight - put me on the 8:00a flight or try to charge me a huge change fee? My CDG-AMS flight part of the same ticket with my AMS-PDX flight home on Northwest/Delta (booked through nwa.com).
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Ooops! Duh, I know it's an international flight. My experience has been, however, that for inter-European connections at CDG at that hour, 3 hours would be excessive. In fact, you'd probably be about the only one there. I do agree it's best to be safe when going through CDG, though.
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So is the first leg of a continuing itinerary to the US, or a seperate leg on a different itinerary? If the former (as suggested by your bag being checked through) then it IS an international flight to a non-Schengen destination. That could add a bit of time to your processing, but I'd feel OK with getting there 1.5 hours ahead of departure but not much less.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:08 PM
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For Schengen flights, the counters do not even open until 2 hours before the flight except when there is a general check-in counter for "all flights" in continuous operation.
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hetismij,

re: >

How much time would you suggest for there? I was looking forward to getting a glimpse of Amsterdam on a 6 1/2 hour layover, but now KLM has changed the flight, so I'll only have 5 hours. Can I still make it into Amsterdam and back?
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Old Sep 9th, 2009, 05:40 AM
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Old Sep 9th, 2009, 08:04 AM
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When I flew out of CDG in 2004, taking a BA flight to LGW connecting there with one to DFW, we got to the airport about 2.5 hours before our 7 a.m. flight, and ended up waiting around until after 6 a.m. before anything was open. If you get to the airport around 6 a.m., you should be fine, and anything earlier will probably just be a waste of time.
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Finally a voice of reason!
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