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How do you pronounce "Leicester" as in Leicester Square, from the song "long way to Tipperary" ?????

How do you pronounce "Leicester" as in Leicester Square, from the song "long way to Tipperary" ?????

Old Aug 1st, 2010, 08:45 PM
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Mexia, Texas, pronunciations:

MEX e ah
mex EE ah
muh HAIR
muh HAY yah (the most nearly correct)
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Old Aug 2nd, 2010, 03:08 AM
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Anyone fancy working out how the Old Bill pronounce "Shoreditch"?
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Old Aug 2nd, 2010, 03:36 AM
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Did they have internet in Pygmalion?
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Old Aug 2nd, 2010, 04:07 AM
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There was a time, not so very long ago when it was possible to tell apart the inhabitants of towns and villages a lot closer than those you mention.
I always knew when someone came from a town near to me, and which one, whilst to outsiders we all had the same basic "Middlesex" accent.

With the mobility of the population, incomers, arrival of TV and worse Neighbours (causing people to end their sentences on a rising note even when not a question)many of these accents have died out, or at least been homogenised.

annhig - the BBC had a test of accents on their site for a long time. I doubt it is still there now though.
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Old Aug 2nd, 2010, 08:12 AM
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Southampton: Slamton
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Old Aug 2nd, 2010, 03:01 PM
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Anyone fancy working out how the Old Bill pronounce "Shoreditch"?>>

go on, then, surprise us, CW.

nice to see you back. did they relent, or have they abolished ASBOs, like the conlib alliance?
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Old Aug 2nd, 2010, 03:25 PM
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I knew right away it was Lester..... having seen the original My Fair Lady with a song that began......

"Here them down in Leicester Square...dropping h's everywhere...."


BTW... if you go to Nantucket don't ask for directions to Siasconset..... it's known as Sconset -
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Old Aug 6th, 2010, 03:59 AM
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"khunwilko
There was a time, not so very long ago when it was possible to tell apart the inhabitants of towns and villages a lot closer than those you mention.
I always knew when someone came from a town near to me, and which one, whilst to outsiders we all had the same basic "Middlesex" accent.

With the mobility of the population, incomers, arrival of TV and worse Neighbours (causing people to end their sentences on a rising note even when not a question)many of these accents have died out, or at least been homogenised.

annhig - the BBC had a test of accents on their site for a long time. I doubt it is still there now though.

I think you'll be surprised - UK accents change but still stay remarkably regional - people are currently looking at Milton Keynes which has developed it's own accent since its inception.

As for "closer" well Warwick and Leamington are joined together.

I was in Oz one time recently and had to ask a guy where he came from - I knew he was Warwickshire, it turned out he was from the village next to mine!

Dialogue vocab and accents change but the regionality in UK seems to keep going despite and no-one seems to explain why or how.
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Old Aug 6th, 2010, 04:01 AM
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...and what's all this "Arkansas" ?????
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Old Aug 6th, 2010, 04:03 AM
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I think we should also have some guesses at "Cholmondley-Warner"!!!!!

there is a famous anecdote connected to that name.....I'm sure he'll tell us!
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Old Aug 6th, 2010, 04:05 AM
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.....and what about "Elephant and Castle"? - a mispronunciation of historical proportions
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Old Aug 6th, 2010, 04:15 AM
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.....and what about "Elephant and Castle"? - a mispronunciation of historical proportions>>>>

This is, sadly, a myth. It's from the emblem of the Cutlers Company - who were big in the area.
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Old Aug 6th, 2010, 05:04 AM
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>.It's from the emblem of the Cutlers Company
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Old Aug 6th, 2010, 05:36 AM
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Because they made the handles out of ivory innit.
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Old Aug 9th, 2010, 06:42 AM
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what's a myth?

or

as the origin of the expression goes back further than the cutlers where did they get it from?
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Old Aug 9th, 2010, 06:46 AM
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I prefer the older explanation as it has humour - everyone would have known about the symbol of the elephant and castle and in typical English humour would have coined the phrase in the same way "Wipers" and "San fairy Anne" became named in WW1.
mispronunciation is a very common root for words to come into the English language.
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Old Aug 10th, 2010, 02:38 AM
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what's a myth?
>>>

Infanta de Castille.

>>>or

as the origin of the expression goes back further than the cutlers where did they get it from?>>>

Cutlers are much older. Elephant = Ivory for the handles.

Castle - Knives, swords, spears etc. ie weapon makers.
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Old Aug 10th, 2010, 03:17 AM
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>>as the origin of the expression goes back further than the cutlers
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Old Aug 10th, 2010, 09:28 AM
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My Doncaster born friend drops all her h's so it always makes me smile when she goes down to London and shops in 'arrods. It reminds me of Fred Dibnah who once talked about King 'enerey the 8th and then tlaking about a wall saying he had 'it it with an 'ammer.
Being Suffolk born and bred myself I'd love to hear some of you having a go at Garboldisham.
Garrrrrrblesham.............
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Old Aug 11th, 2010, 07:40 AM
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Quote PatrickLondon "...this was almost exactly the same time as James VI and I was trying to interest the Spaniards in a marriage to his son Charles,..."

Tsk Tsk

"...James and I were trying to interest..."

Didn't realise you were quite so old though...
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