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Old May 3rd, 2021, 03:23 AM
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This story appeared on the BBC News website this morning. I don’t know if it adds more clarity or not.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56970398
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Old May 3rd, 2021, 04:48 AM
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This story appeared on the BBC News website this morning. I donít know if it adds more clarity or not.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56970398
As I found to my cost last month. Thereís four parts to international travel
1. Leaving your home country
2. Entering a destination country
3. Leaving a destination country
4. Re-entering your home country

thats just a simple one country trip, very complex with stop overs.

The rules are different at every step of the way and change daily/weekly. My 3 day trip was appallingly horrible and was like trying to whack a mole.

I wouldnít suggest travel unless necessary until itís possible without quarantine or tests , if anything just because the logistic s can be very difficult.

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Old May 3rd, 2021, 07:48 AM
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For a trip to London from my home in Belgium:
1. get PCR test in Belgium before traveling on Eurostar to London
2. fill in the passenger locator form for the UK
2. get PCR test in London after 2 days (I need to book all tests in the UK before I travel).
3. In order to get out of quarantine after 5 days, take a test on day five. If negative I can go out of quarantine
4. I still have to take another test on day 8
5. When I'm ready to travel back to Belgium, fill in passenger locator form for Belgium
6. Depending on the situation in the UK, I will receive a text message if I need another test in Belgium on day 1 and 7 after my return.

I think that's it, unless it has changed again. I also need a valid reason for visiting, not for a holiday.
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Old May 3rd, 2021, 08:01 AM
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For a trip to London from my home in Belgium:
1. get PCR test in Belgium before traveling on Eurostar to London
2. fill in the passenger locator form for the UK
2. get PCR test in London after 2 days (I need to book all tests in the UK before I travel).
3. In order to get out of quarantine after 5 days, take a test on day five. If negative I can go out of quarantine
4. I still have to take another test on day 8
5. When I'm ready to travel back to Belgium, fill in passenger locator form for Belgium
6. Depending on the situation in the UK, I will receive a text message if I need another test in Belgium on day 1 and 7 after my return.

I think that's it, unless it has changed again. I also need a valid reason for visiting, not for a holiday.
goodness Tulips , I’d forgotten about the extra PCR tests if you stay more than 72 hours. Yes , as far as I see it 7 tests for a two week visit. At around £130 a go in the U.K. nit sure about the cost in Belgium.
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Old May 3rd, 2021, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tulips View Post
For a trip to London from my home in Belgium:
1. get PCR test in Belgium before traveling on Eurostar to London
2. fill in the passenger locator form for the UK
2. get PCR test in London after 2 days (I need to book all tests in the UK before I travel).
3. In order to get out of quarantine after 5 days, take a test on day five. If negative I can go out of quarantine
4. I still have to take another test on day 8
5. When I'm ready to travel back to Belgium, fill in passenger locator form for Belgium
6. Depending on the situation in the UK, I will receive a text message if I need another test in Belgium on day 1 and 7 after my return.

I think that's it, unless it has changed again. I also need a valid reason for visiting, not for a holiday.
Tulips, we are thinking of no London travel from Belgium. We could use the Eurostar credits or not from Paris. Not worth the 300 euro in credits at this point. We just really wanted to go to Ypres for Armistice day and then to Ghent and Brussels, flying in and out of Paris and using our Paris hotel vouchers. That is another fly in the ointment as that hotel is closed. I think we will wait till Jet Blue tickets from NY go on sale for London. I am not wanting to go through the quarantine process in any country. I looked at the dashboards and you all are not ready for opening. Here in Fl, we had close to 6000 new cases and under 100 deaths yesterday. No biggie for some but it is for me.
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'Here in Fl, we had close to 6000 new cases and under 100 deaths yesterday. No biggie for some but it is for me.'

Belgium now 3.000 daily cases and 39 daily deaths. With 11 miljoen inhabitants about half of Florida I think.
Outdoor cafes and restaurants are reopening May 8, but it's pretty chilly at the moment.
Shops are open. Museums have remained open since they reopened in June last year.
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Old May 3rd, 2021, 10:57 AM
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Belgium has been through so much, more than most countries.
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Originally Posted by Tulips View Post
For a trip to London from my home in Belgium:
1. get PCR test in Belgium before traveling on Eurostar to London
2. fill in the passenger locator form for the UK
2. get PCR test in London after 2 days (I need to book all tests in the UK before I travel).
3. In order to get out of quarantine after 5 days, take a test on day five. If negative I can go out of quarantine
4. I still have to take another test on day 8
5. When I'm ready to travel back to Belgium, fill in passenger locator form for Belgium
6. Depending on the situation in the UK, I will receive a text message if I need another test in Belgium on day 1 and 7 after my return.

I think that's it, unless it has changed again. I also need a valid reason for visiting, not for a holiday.
You don't have to have a PCR test for the UK, one of the other tests are acceptable eg antigen, makes it a bit easier on the wallet. Maybe the PCR test stipulated by Eurostar?

The above sounds like a big task list but having done it a couple of times (with more complex itinerary involving transit in AMS, CDG & CPH with final destination Sweden), I didn't find it a big deal, the costs of all the tests however do mount up. The UK Passenger Locator form has been around for probably a year now, altered now for the day 2 & 8 test package booking reference. Just coming out of day 8 quarantine today, did not bother with paying for day 5 test to release. Obviously the rules are tougher if you are arriving from a red list country which would involve staying in a quarantine hotel.

In Denmark, they give you a compulsory test on arrival regardless of what test you had to get into the country (which can only be taken a max of 24hrs before arrival). You can also take a test at the airport for the journey home, fast & cheap.The Danes are introducing a "coronapas" which is an app showing your covid test results/dates/vaccination records etc which is needed to get into places.
Amsterdam requires a test in order to transit.
CDG doesnt require anything for transit and transit is a valid reason to travel thru CDG
Sweden only accepts covid tests from the labs listed on the gov.uk website which is quite extensive, LAMP test ok within 48hrs of arrival. Entry to Sweden is limited to EU nationals and for a long time entry was barred for Danes, Norwegians.
On arrival back in the UK, Border control asked for the receipt of the payment for the day 2 & 8 tests as well as the certificate
And almost every day, get a phone call from NHS track & trace to remind me what quarantine means, have I got any symptoms etc, did I take my day 2 & 8 test etc etc.
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I'm concerned what constitutes OK situation, in which all steps to open up will finally take place. Someone makes these decitions but what are the thresholds...
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Many EU countries are already taking steps to open for tourism, but each has its own roadmap for returning to normal. Greece, for example, will be opening for tourism in mid May, but there will still be restrictions enforced. Numbers in shops and restaurants will be regulated, and the number of passengers on ferries will be restricted.

You may want to read the following EU bulletin:

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres.../en/ip_21_2121
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