honeymoon 7 days
Dec 22nd, 2012, 09:25 PM
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honeymoon 7 days
my fiance and i are hopoing to do a trip to europe for our honeymoon but cannot decide on one destination. i was hoping there would be a way to make it four countries without having to add another week. we definitely want to see ireland and italy because those are our nationalities. but we also would love to visit amsterdam even if only for a day and paris. any suggestions or ideas if that's even possible?
Dec 23rd, 2012, 03:17 AM
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In creating your post you flagged it as a "trip report", which in meant to indicate that you are conveying informnation about a trip you've already taken, not asking questions about one you are planning. So some people will not even open your thread.
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In the meantime, it will be extremely difficult for you to include both Ireland and Italy in the same 7 day trip, let alone trying to include amsterdam and paris. This is especially true if you would like to set foot in the parts of Ireland and Italy that your ancestors actually came from (if you know where that is) and if you would like to see something in those countries other than the airports.
Be prepared for an avalanche of sarcasm being hurled at you for even asking from the self-styled "experts" who hang around this message board.
However, assuming you are coming from the US, this is the most help I can offer for accomplishing such an itinerary in 7 days:
Fly into northern Italy (MIlan, Venice or Pisa)
Fly out of northern Italy to Amsterdam (you can do this from Pisa, Milan and I think Venice)
From Amsterdam take the train to Paris
From Paris fly to Ireland
OR
Fly into northern Italy as above
Fly or take a train from Northern Italy to Paris (trains from Venice, Milan or Turin, maybe Florence)
Take a train from Paris to Amsterdam
Fly to Ireland from Amsterdam
OR
You can reverse those trips, flying first in Ireland and going from there. Depends on what time of year you'd rather be moving north to south or vice versa.
I don't recommend you do any of these things, and even if you add a week, trying to visit those far-flund destinations will mean a lot of time eaten up in airports and train stations dealing with lines and possible transportation delays and anxiety about missing flights, etc. Even if you try to visit just Italy and Ireland in 7 days, you will not see much of the sights in either place, especially if you are losing the first days to jet lag.
I've never been to Ireland, but I live in Italy, and I can tell you that is actually rather misleading to go to Italy because that is your ancestral nationality but not go to the area where your family is actually from. It would be the same as if an Italian family wanted to go to America because their relatives had gone to San Francisco, so they decide to visit Texas or Washington DC. If your family comes from Naples or Sicily, it is NOTHING like northern Italy. If they came from Abruzzo, that is NOTHING like Bologna or Genoa. If you have memories of your grandmother's cooking, you won't find it in Italy except in the area where she came from.
So if it is really important to you to bond with your historic culture, visit the area of Italy to which you are actually culturally linked.
There are some times of the year when it is nicer to visit these places than others, so again, if your family is from someplace south like Sicily and your honeymoon is in July, it is so hot there that you might want to save it for another trip some other year.
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In the meantime, it will be extremely difficult for you to include both Ireland and Italy in the same 7 day trip, let alone trying to include amsterdam and paris. This is especially true if you would like to set foot in the parts of Ireland and Italy that your ancestors actually came from (if you know where that is) and if you would like to see something in those countries other than the airports.
Be prepared for an avalanche of sarcasm being hurled at you for even asking from the self-styled "experts" who hang around this message board.
However, assuming you are coming from the US, this is the most help I can offer for accomplishing such an itinerary in 7 days:
Fly into northern Italy (MIlan, Venice or Pisa)
Fly out of northern Italy to Amsterdam (you can do this from Pisa, Milan and I think Venice)
From Amsterdam take the train to Paris
From Paris fly to Ireland
OR
Fly into northern Italy as above
Fly or take a train from Northern Italy to Paris (trains from Venice, Milan or Turin, maybe Florence)
Take a train from Paris to Amsterdam
Fly to Ireland from Amsterdam
OR
You can reverse those trips, flying first in Ireland and going from there. Depends on what time of year you'd rather be moving north to south or vice versa.
I don't recommend you do any of these things, and even if you add a week, trying to visit those far-flund destinations will mean a lot of time eaten up in airports and train stations dealing with lines and possible transportation delays and anxiety about missing flights, etc. Even if you try to visit just Italy and Ireland in 7 days, you will not see much of the sights in either place, especially if you are losing the first days to jet lag.
I've never been to Ireland, but I live in Italy, and I can tell you that is actually rather misleading to go to Italy because that is your ancestral nationality but not go to the area where your family is actually from. It would be the same as if an Italian family wanted to go to America because their relatives had gone to San Francisco, so they decide to visit Texas or Washington DC. If your family comes from Naples or Sicily, it is NOTHING like northern Italy. If they came from Abruzzo, that is NOTHING like Bologna or Genoa. If you have memories of your grandmother's cooking, you won't find it in Italy except in the area where she came from.
So if it is really important to you to bond with your historic culture, visit the area of Italy to which you are actually culturally linked.
There are some times of the year when it is nicer to visit these places than others, so again, if your family is from someplace south like Sicily and your honeymoon is in July, it is so hot there that you might want to save it for another trip some other year.
Dec 23rd, 2012, 04:51 AM
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Can only agree that there is no way you can see 4 destinations (countries) in 7 days - almost all of your time would be spent just getting from one place to another. (This would be like trying to put together a 7 day trip including Washington, DC, New Orleans, Chicago and San Francisco - the bulk of your time would be spent in airports).
If you really want to visit ancestral villages you need to find where they are - and realize they may not be in the best areas for traditional sightseeing. And recognize that countries in europe - although much smaller than the US - do have significant regional differences between them.
If it were me I would pick one destination - based on time of year and your interests and spend some time there and doing a couple of day trips - and relaxing a little versus a forced march approach.
But if you give us a little more info (time of year, actual destinations in Ireland and Italy, interests and budget) people may be able to help you put together a honeymoon covering at least those 2 countries in such a short time.
If you really want to visit ancestral villages you need to find where they are - and realize they may not be in the best areas for traditional sightseeing. And recognize that countries in europe - although much smaller than the US - do have significant regional differences between them.
If it were me I would pick one destination - based on time of year and your interests and spend some time there and doing a couple of day trips - and relaxing a little versus a forced march approach.
But if you give us a little more info (time of year, actual destinations in Ireland and Italy, interests and budget) people may be able to help you put together a honeymoon covering at least those 2 countries in such a short time.
Dec 23rd, 2012, 05:01 AM
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I have to agree with the last 3 posts. If you can extend your trip by a few days you might be able to visit both Ireland and Italy. But you won't actually see and enjoy Ireland and Italy.
With a week, I would choose one, either Paris or Rome. If you have slightly more than a week, you could add Amsterdam to Paris. Or choose Ireland OR Italy. Less is more.
With a week, I would choose one, either Paris or Rome. If you have slightly more than a week, you could add Amsterdam to Paris. Or choose Ireland OR Italy. Less is more.
Dec 23rd, 2012, 05:27 AM
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<< Be prepared for an avalanche of sarcasm being hurled at you for even asking from the self-styled "experts" who hang around this message board. >>
This is quite offensive and off putting from a self-styled new comer. Or perhaps this is a cranky old poster, registered under an assumed name. Zeppole perhaps?
This is quite offensive and off putting from a self-styled new comer. Or perhaps this is a cranky old poster, registered under an assumed name. Zeppole perhaps?
Dec 23rd, 2012, 05:35 AM
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It's blatantly obvious who goldenautumn is; the style and tone are unmistakable. This is what? Maybe the 10th screen name?
At any rate, to the OP, no, four countries in a week is barely even logistically possible, never mind advisable. Even two countries is a stretch. And Ireland and Italy aren't exactly next door to each other. If you have only a week, pick one of those two countries and enjoy it. Or pick two countries that are reasonably close to each other and divide the time between them.
At any rate, to the OP, no, four countries in a week is barely even logistically possible, never mind advisable. Even two countries is a stretch. And Ireland and Italy aren't exactly next door to each other. If you have only a week, pick one of those two countries and enjoy it. Or pick two countries that are reasonably close to each other and divide the time between them.
Dec 23rd, 2012, 07:10 AM
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bvsearles124: Where are you flying from? And is 7 days the entire trip or do you actually have 9 days to include the flights to/from Europe?
If it is seven days total then you only have about 4.5 days free for seeing/doing. One day is spent getting there, one day is spent getting home, and the arrival day is jet lagged and taken up w/ transfers and acclimating.
Even w/9 days -that only leaves approx 6.5 days actually <i>free</i>. So w/ one week - pick either Ireland <B>OR</B> Italy if those are your 'musts'. And even then you will not have much time or be able to cover that much territory. And especially if you want to 'ancestor hunt' and return to the family towns/villages -that could be hard in one week.
One week on the ground (9 days total): <B>1)</B> Rome and Florence and maybe the family hometown depending on where it is. or <B>2)</B> Ireland -where exactly depends on the family base. It is a slow country to tour. or <B>3)</B> Paris w/ maybe one day trip into the countryside.
One week in total (5 days on the ground): Paris or Rome or Dublin w/ a day trip.
Yes - the z-girl is back yet again. (Not for you to worry about bvsearles124. The Fodors editors will take care of it if goldenautumn crosses the line again)
If it is seven days total then you only have about 4.5 days free for seeing/doing. One day is spent getting there, one day is spent getting home, and the arrival day is jet lagged and taken up w/ transfers and acclimating.
Even w/9 days -that only leaves approx 6.5 days actually <i>free</i>. So w/ one week - pick either Ireland <B>OR</B> Italy if those are your 'musts'. And even then you will not have much time or be able to cover that much territory. And especially if you want to 'ancestor hunt' and return to the family towns/villages -that could be hard in one week.
One week on the ground (9 days total): <B>1)</B> Rome and Florence and maybe the family hometown depending on where it is. or <B>2)</B> Ireland -where exactly depends on the family base. It is a slow country to tour. or <B>3)</B> Paris w/ maybe one day trip into the countryside.
One week in total (5 days on the ground): Paris or Rome or Dublin w/ a day trip.
Yes - the z-girl is back yet again. (Not for you to worry about bvsearles124. The Fodors editors will take care of it if goldenautumn crosses the line again)
