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missmissy May 25th, 2008 06:22 AM

Help with Venice Q's
 
I have several questions:

We're flying into Marco Polo and don't want to spend the money on a private water taxi. So, we'll take the Alilaguna. We're staying near the Riato Bridge, so it looks like we get off the boat at St Mark's Square and walk?

I realize we can also take the bus to some point and then the vaporetto? Is that a better option? I was thinking the Alilaguna would be a cool way to approach Venice by water. But, I'm open to suggestions.

Any suggestions for good food in the Rialto area? Or what's your fave in any area in Venice?

Has anyone gone to Musica Palazzo? I was planning on an evening of music at St Mark's Square, but wonder if this might be a good option for one night?

What's the best game plan for seeing Bascilica San Marco, the treasury, the Bell Tower, the museum, la Pala d'Oro and (I'm forgetting the name....Loggia??) where the horses are with views, etc.???? We've been to St Mark's once, but it was on a tour and we were quickly moved thru the interior. Is there a natural "order" to see these sites? When are the mosaics lit up? Should we do a guided tour or do it ourselves? Do any of the tours combine with the Doges Palace?

Also, we want to return to Murano, but want to also see Burano this time. Any tips on either island? Last time we simply got off the boat and went to Ferro and Lazzarini. We want to return there, but does anyone have other recommendations?

I'm thinking we should plan on Murano and Burano on our first morning and maybe have lunch on Burano. Then, maybe the lines at San Mark's will be lighter later in the afternoon?

We only have three nights in Venice and I want to make sure we have time to just wander, get lost and soak it in.

Thanks for your help! :) Melissa


J62 May 25th, 2008 06:36 AM

If your hotel is right near Rialto Bridge I recommend getting as close as possible - it's not a short walk from St. Marks to the bridge with luggage in tow. Numerous bridges with steps up and down.

Take the airport bus to Piazzale Roma then vaporetto to near your hotel - ask them for the closest stop & which line.

See www.actv.it for orange city bus or atvo.it for the faster (slightly), more comfortable blue bus with room for luggage. If you buy a 1 or multi day pass it can be used on the orange actv bus - saves a few Euro but not much.

You can pre-book entrance to St. Marks (can't find that website). You simply print out your reservation and walk in the exit. The person watching the exit didn't even care to look at the paper - just waved us in. There was also a mosh pit crowd waiting to get in the 'reserved time' entrance, so we simply walked around to the exit to bypass them. You can't bring any bags (even small backpacks) into St. Marks - you need to use the free checkroom just around the corner - they'll direct you there.

The Doges palace is a separate admission. I took the secret itineraries tour last summer and enjoyed the tour. Again, you can pre-book & pay when you pick up tickets.

http://www.museiciviciveneziani.it/f...;tit=biglietti

Personally I think Murano is overrated waste of time, but many people enjoy it. Don't fret about arriving by water on your 1st day - if you take the boat to Murano or Burano you'll get the same view.

JeanneB May 25th, 2008 06:57 AM

If you take the Alilaguna, you would still want to take the vaporetto from St. Marks to the stop your hotel recommends.

Like said above, the bus to Pze Roma would be cheaper and is very convenient. But I've never arrived by water...I think that might be worth the extra expense.

nytraveler May 25th, 2008 08:56 AM

Frankly we enjoyed Torcello the most of any of the islands. I would definitely do that over Murano - esp if you've already been there.

hpeabody May 25th, 2008 09:22 AM

I agree with ...

Take the airport bus to Piazzale Roma then vaporetto to Rialto Bridge. It is Line#1 (I did this last year, I doubt anything has changed)

You can reserve a time for entry to St Marks Basilica on-line. 2 things I did not know in advance and wish I had. You have to check any kind of purse/bag at a little place around the corner, And, if you want to go into certain areas of the basilica, there is a fee, be prepared with Euros. (I had no idea, so I was very disappointed)

I very much enjoyed going up in the bell tower, but recently read something about construction, check on that.

Enjoy Venice, It's truly magical :)

rialtogrl May 25th, 2008 09:35 AM

Alilaguna now has a line that will take you right to Rialto. Check it out on their website:
http://www.alilaguna.it/

There are lots of good places to eat in the Rialto area and you'll be pretty central so you can walk to other areas to eat, too. What is your budget?

bfrac May 25th, 2008 09:46 AM

I would suggest you buy the 72-hour vaporetto pass since you intend to see the outer islands and trust me, when you are tired of walking it will be nice to hop on a vaporetto to get back to your hotel. This pass can be used on the orange bus from the airport but we always choose to do the blue bus to store the luggage below and it is only 3 euro per person.

emilou May 25th, 2008 10:26 AM

The alilaguna orange line, leaves from the airport and reaches rialto s stop in one hour.


SusanP May 25th, 2008 11:25 AM

I have taken the orange ACTV bus twice, and there is plenty of room for luggage right on the bus. It only takes 5 minutes more than the blue bus and is covered by the 72-hour pass, which as mentioned, you should get.

missmissy May 26th, 2008 10:27 AM

Thanks for all the info! I was set on changing gears and taking the bus then then vaporetto. BUT, now I see the Alilaguna goes to the Rialto. hmmmmmm

One thing I need to nail down is HOW to get TO our hotel. Supposedly it's half way between the Rialto and St Mark's Square. We're staying at the Splendid Venice Hotel at Via San Marco Mercerie. Their website has instructions to take the vaporetto to the Rialto. Then, NO walking directions. Just a bad map. haha

From what I can tell and from what someone wrote on tripadvisor, it seems to be a shorter walk from San Marco.

Does anyone know????

Originally I wasn't wanting set times to HAVE to be somewhere, but it's sounding like we'd save a lot of time by pre-purchasing set times for things like St Mark's basilica and Doge's Palace. Does anyone recommend a website to do this????

Thanks for your help! :) Melissa

morgiesmom May 26th, 2008 10:52 AM

bmk.

rialtogrl May 26th, 2008 11:08 AM

Yes, it is closer to Piazza San Marco, but I would take whichever Alilaguna comes first - the one going to Piazza San Marco or the one going to Rialto. I can tell you that the approach into Venice to the San Marco stop is absolutely stunning and then you'll walk directly into Piazza San Marco which will totally blow your mind.


missmissy May 26th, 2008 12:51 PM

Thanks, Rialtogrl :) I can't wait! It sounds like San Marco is our best arrival spot. I'm sure we'll be WOWED! :) Melissa

Girlspytravel May 26th, 2008 01:26 PM

The ride into Venice on the Alilaguna is quite thrilling-but do be prepared to see a lot of construction equipment on the Piazza right now and along the waterfront of Palazzo Ducale.

If you want to see a live webcam shot of the Piazza San Marco, you can go to Venice City Hall's webcam here:

http://www.comune.venezia.it/flex/cm...T/IDPagina/893

annhig May 26th, 2008 01:55 PM

Hi missmissy,

I agree with rialtogrl that your best bet is the allilaguna to san marco - apart from anything else, the orange one to the rialto has very limited hours as we disclovered when we wanted to take it at the end of our stay at easter.

it is closer to your hotel too, so far as I can see - I think they have suggested the rialto vapretto stop as if you are coming from piazzale roma, it's quicker [marginally] to get the boat to the rialto and walk than to stay on to san marco and walk from there.

once you have alighted at san marco, it looks as if the hotel is just round the back of the basilica, so you wil have to fight your way past all the tourists! but the web-site isn't brilliant is it? - i see what you mean about directions! your best bet is to go to google maps, and put the address in - you'll get a better view.

the good news is that there shouldn't be any bridges to cross, which can be tricky with luggage.

as for your other queries, I would suggest one main atttraction per day and play the rest by ear.

for example, you could book the secret itineraries on day 1, and after that get the vaporetto across to san salute, and from there explore dorsoduro, then san polo and san croce districts, [taking in the Frari and sculoa da dsan rocco on the way] working your way up to the rialto, whence you could walk or catch a boat back to san marco.

for a change of scene, on day 2, catch the boat out to Burano, then the little shuttle across to torcello, view the 6th century basilica, have lunch there or on Burano, and return to Venice via Murano - if you get off at the Faro stop [where the Burano boat stops] you can walk thorugh the town, and then get the no 41 boat back which either takes you all the way back to st. mark's or you could do what we did and get off a "giardino" and walk back via the arsenale.

on day 3, you could start off with an early mornnig visit to the rialto markets and follow that with any of the other things you haven't done - a visit to the accademia, a trip up the tower at san georgio [as good as the one in st. mark's square and half the price], or whatever.

as for san marco itself, as you wil be just round the corner, you should be able to get in easily enough, either just when it opens or just before it closes. however, if you want to book, by all means do so. the lights are on all day sunday, sat pm, and 11.30 -12.30 every day. [I think - i found those times via google]. if that is important to you you should check.

hope this helps,

regards, ann


missmissy Jun 4th, 2008 07:05 PM

Thanks, Ann. :)

Do you and others suggest we prebook Doges Palace and St Marks? We'll be there in July and I know the lines are likely to be long.

I'm going to email our hotel for directions from both the Rialto and San Marco because I can't find an online map that shows it. I don't want to waste time waiting for the Alilaguna if there's only one every hour and would likely take the bus and then Vaporetto. HOWEVER, if there's not a long wait I'm all about arriving by water and taking the Alilaguna to San Marco.

Your suggested plan sounds good to me. I cannot wait to explore and get lost in Venice!!!

:) Melissa

ellenem Jun 4th, 2008 07:57 PM

Try looking up the Splendid on the Venice Explorer interactive map:

http://venicexplorer.net/index.php?hlangs=en

missmissy Jun 6th, 2008 11:40 AM

Thanks Ellenem! I finally got detailed info from our hotel, but the map link you listed is great. Thank you!! :) Melissa

JoanneH Jun 6th, 2008 12:10 PM

Here is the site to pre book the asilica:
http://www.venetoinside.com/default....2452&PID=7

You pick a date and time then they email you back a receipt with a number. To visit the church is free but to see the treasure of venice etc is small fee.

2010 Jun 6th, 2008 06:41 PM

Many useful answers to questions I have for an upcoming trip! Love the webcam shot of St Mark's Square! Thanks!

2010

golfmom Jun 8th, 2008 11:24 PM

Regarding visiting the Basilica, is there a size limit on the purse/bag you can bring in? Or do all purses/bags need to be checked?

kleeblatt Jun 8th, 2008 11:40 PM

Two weeks ago, as we were standing in line for St. Mark's church, our tour guide did an inspection of our handbags. Anything that looked more like a big bag or backpack wasn't allowed in. Normal purses are fine. My friend and I ran over to the storage room (across the street and down an alley a bit) and handed our backpacks to two men reading a magazine. We didn't have to wait in line. It's a free service and we had no problems.

Remember to keep your money and credit cards hidden somewhere on your body at all times! Although I felt our backpacks were secure, I knew no one would be interested in stealing a water bottle, a book, an umbrella and a rain jacket.

annhig Jun 9th, 2008 12:13 PM

hi schuler,

My friend and I ran over to the storage room (across the street and down an alley a bit) and handed our backpacks to two men reading a magazine. We didn't have to wait in line. It's a free service and we had no problems. >>>

this reminded me of the experience we had at ca'rezonico at easter - the guardian of the cloakroom decided to give us a lecture on women who don't like leaving their handbags with him [compusory there, even the smallest]. his english was fluent, his delivery the highest camp.

we weren't over impressed with the museum [yes, i know that's heresy, but that's how we felt] but he was a hoot. i was so taken aback that I forgot all about my purse etc - and they were fully intact when we got back.

missmissy - i would definitely book the secret tour, but given the location of your hotel, not the basilica, unless seeing the mosaics is of particular importance to you.

regards, ann



kleeblatt Jun 9th, 2008 10:11 PM

Hi Annhig,

Aren't those cloakroom attendents adorable sometimes? There were two at St. Mark's cloakroom and they were looking at a Nespresso ad with George Clooney in the magazine. I looked at George Clooney and then said (in English), "Ah, you look just like George Clooney."

It melts their heart every time.

kleeblatt Jun 9th, 2008 10:14 PM

While taking one of the "ferry" gondolas (where young gondoliers learn their a part of their trade), one young man was trying to tease us. I teased him back and said he looked just like George Clooney. I swear, this must be the ultimate Italian compliment because he was smiling from cheek to cheek.

Then I said I looked like Angelina Jolie. He stopped smiling and thought I was crazy.

CltLwyr Jun 25th, 2008 02:07 AM

I am considering buy the 48 hour ACTV Tourist card. From the ACTV website:

"They allow unlimited travel and can be used on all the services - both waterborne (except those of route 3, Alilaguna, Clodia, Fusina) and on land - that provide urban services within the municipality ("Comune") of Venice (land services on the Lido and in Mestre)."

My question is, what are "route 3, Alilaguna, Clodia, Fusina" and do I need them? Where do they go that ACTV does not?

Thanks

Steve

CltLwyr Jun 25th, 2008 02:16 AM

To clarify, I will be arriving by car at Piazzale Roma, but need to get to the airport by 9AM on our day of departure. Is there any way to use the Tourist pass to get to the airport?

ellenem Jun 25th, 2008 06:25 AM

Alilaguna is the direct-by-boat airport service. Your pass will not cover that.

However, you can use your pass to get to the airport by taking a vaporetto to Piazzale Roma and then taking an ACTV local bus to the airport.

annhig Jun 25th, 2008 01:39 PM

Hi CltLWyr,

if you go to www.ACTV.it and follow the english links, you can access the timetable for the airport bus [Line 5] - to get you there for a 9am flight [probably 7am check in] you could catch the 6.15 [arrives 6.40] or the 6.40 [arrives 7.05].

to get to the bus station at Piazzale Roma, you could walk [don't know where you hotel is, it may not be practical] get a vaporetto [again, the same site will give you vaporetto times; they are generally VERY punctual] or book a water-taxi. that is the most expensive, but a lot cheaper than a water taxi all the way to the aurport which is about 100E.

SChuler- where did you get the info that the "traghetto" gondoliers are trainees? - i read that all the gondoliers take it in turns to run the traghetto lines. don't saying you're wrong, just interested in your source.

regretably, I can't reveal mine! [lack of memory, not willingness].

regards, ann


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