Help with itinerary-switz/france/italy

Nov 18th, 2006, 05:17 AM
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>Milan...I don't know. Shopping I suppose..It IS supposed to be the fashion capital of the world<

Some would say Paris.

However, you have to stay in hostels and you're going to Milan to shop?

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Nov 18th, 2006, 06:10 AM
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haha yes. Paris & Milan..I AM in paris for 10 days. LOL
I am budgeting on accomodation so i can spend more! lol plus you can meet people
I think I will make it a one night stopover with couchsurfing or something
ta!
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Nov 18th, 2006, 06:12 AM
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Hello vinylcrocodile,

As someone who travels to Switzerland at least twice a year, I've found my own personal favorite places. I note in your itinerary that you have never mentioned Ticino (the canton closest to Italy) as a destination. I really love this part of the country. You get Swiss hospitality and Italian food and wine. Since you still have lots of planning time, you might want to consider Locarno! Lago Maggiore is really lovely!

A lot of folks on this board advise staying away from Zurich, as it is not a tourist sort of destination. I happen to LOVE Zurich. I'm always ready to hit Zurich my last couple of days in Switzerland for the shopping on the Bahnhofstrasse. I always find things to bring home!! I love the Jelmoli department store. DH and I visit their deli in the basement for our dinner our last evening, which we enjoy in our room at a nearby hotel, along with a nice red Italian wine. There are some good restaurants in Zurich, but after running around Lucerne, Lausanne, Interlaken, Locarno, etc. we enjoy just relaxing and thinking about repacking for the trip back home.

Your trip sounds lovely. I'm sure you will have a wonderful time.

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Nov 18th, 2006, 07:11 AM
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Yes, I think I will skip Bern, Add a day to Grindelwald and stay 1 night/2 days in zurich
For luzern, the hostel is 33chf, but there is one nearby in Seelisberg? for only 20chfi cant find it on the map so im guessing thats not a good thing

Am i better of sticking to luzern?
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Nov 18th, 2006, 07:22 AM
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Here's the link to the hostel in Seeligsburg:

http://www.hostel.ch/hosteldetails.h...er_hostels_pi1[bez]=SEE&user_hostels_pi1[tab]=portrait&cHash=38f594e3f8

It's a bit hard to get to, requiring a combination of trains & busses (click on "arrival"). The nice part will be that it's quiet & beautiful.

Good luck!

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Nov 18th, 2006, 07:24 AM
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Ok, I see that the url didn't make it as a clickable link, so here it is again:

http://tinyurl.com/ykqxn2

Good luck!

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Nov 18th, 2006, 07:28 AM
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It's a small village nestled in the mountains and high above the Vierwaldstättersee. It has a cold mountain lake, beautiful old houses, a funicular down to the lake and beautiful trails to hike on, as well as being on the famous path, the Weg der Schweiz. You can walk from Seelisberg to Fluelen and even Brunnen on this trail.

The views along the trail are spectacular.

There's also a beautiful building with gold details owned by the yogis.
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Nov 18th, 2006, 08:29 AM
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Again I can only help a small bit but since you specifically mention cable cars... there is one that leaves from the Montreux (town next to Vevey) train station called 'Rocher de Naye' (sp?). Very cool thing to do.

Also you can take boat/ferry rides out on Lac Leman (lake geneva) in the area.

Yes, I would skip Bern.
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Nov 18th, 2006, 02:42 PM
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hhmm.. So it looks like a train to stans then a bus to seelisberg and a 15 minutes walk..probably too much hassle. And it would prob be deserted huh? its a small place in itself.
If it is a good loc. for hiking then it prob isnt for me
The cable car in engelberg (ice glacier/titlis?)is $56 for a return..are all of them relatively the same price? It is more expensive thatn i thought =/
Yes, I will skip Bern and add a day to interlaken and take a trip out.

I just found out there is a music festival in dijon right when i arrive! what perfect timing!
I have subtracted a day from dijon so its only 12 days in france leaving me more for italy & swiss
Oh & is gimmelwald near murren?

Thanks for your help again. I think I'm right for now... ;p
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Nov 18th, 2006, 03:01 PM
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<there is one that leaves from the Montreux (town next to Vevey) train station called 'Rocher de Naye' (sp?). Very cool thing to do.>
Ah yes, I see it. I printed this map with the train lines on it =D
The ice caves i mentioned, i thinnk the once i saw pics of were the Jungfraujoch ones
Anyone know the website for this?
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Nov 18th, 2006, 03:17 PM
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In regard to your transport costs maybe you should look again at a pass if you intend to take come cable cars and ferries. If you add the costs of these to your P2P at $360 the pass you looked at for $390 could well save you money.

You can check out some of the passes at www.railplus.com.au - all in AUD. And get yourself familiar with the sbb site as Schuler suggested and you will see anything is possible.

We are spending 21 days in Switzerland in June and are intending on staying in a chalet in Brienz, the Riviera Lodge in Vevey, a B&B in Locarno, another Youth Hostel in Pontresina and we will might slurge on a hotel for our last 2 night in Zurich and we are both 50! We are doing budget accommodation so we can spend longer time there and see more things.

Have a great time, you must have been saving hard to do this at 18, go for it.
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Nov 18th, 2006, 03:42 PM
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Im going to stay in that vevey hostel too and ill be there in june. See you there!
Doesnt using the pass on cable cars, count as a day of travel though?
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Nov 18th, 2006, 04:00 PM
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Hi again,

Here's a link to the ice palace at the Jungfraujoch: http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/offe...ier-17284.html

and

http://www.jungfraubahn.ch/en/Deskto...//183_read-808

Hope they help!

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Nov 18th, 2006, 04:19 PM
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thanks! And ONE more question ;p
I need to book my ticket-what airline would you suggest
My choices are VIRGIN ATLANTIC, GULF AIR & KOREAN AIR (INCL. STOPOVER IN SEOUL)
I will be flying economy SYDNEY TO LONDON in late FEB
thanks!
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Nov 18th, 2006, 05:03 PM
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Hi Vinylcroc! I was thinking of doing a similar itinerary as you, but in 4 weeks and not 6. At this point, I've cut out anything south of Milan due to budget and time.

Sounds like you have your itinerary pretty solid. Since we'll be in Switzerland around the same time, perhaps I might bump into you in one of the hostels.

Ira: your railsaver link is indeed a saver! I was initially reluctant to get a rail pass, and the railsaver website confirmed it for me. But $248 for all my train tickets? YIKES! Better than $528 for a rail pass however.

sbb.ch hasn't been able to give me prices. Can someone help?

Oh, and back to vinylcroc: for flights, I'd go with Virgin Air. But really, it's just personal preference. I've never been on the other 2 airlines you mention, so will defer to others better traveled.
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Nov 18th, 2006, 05:11 PM
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Hi Vinyl,

We have just booked Perth to Amsterdam with Singapore! I have no idea about your choices, sorry!

If you put Swiss Pass in the search box up the top you will get a LOT of posts and info on the different sort of passes. Also check the sbb webiste for International Guests, I think it is in the top right. Also check the website I have you and email them if you have any queries, I have found them to be quite helpful and will probably be buying passes with them. Also check trainticket.com.au click on country passes on the left, then find the Swiss ones which are at the bottom. There are quite a few different passes so you need to be sure you are getting the best one for your needs.

If you are still confused start a new thread and hopefully someone like PALQ will answer you, he has been a really big help to me!

See you in Vevey then!
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Nov 18th, 2006, 05:12 PM
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vinylcroc, if you are going to be going up to the Jungfraujoch and the lift up Titlis, etc., you might want to get one of the Swiss railpasses that gives you a 50% discount on these (without counting it as a travel day). There is a good explanation of the various options, and a chart, on Rick Steves' website:

http://www.ricksteves.com/rail/ausswitz.htm

For example, the Swiss card ($133 U.S.) gives you a fully-paid inbound and outbound trip, and 50% off the rest---but that may be only 25% off the h=Jungfrau train. A 3-day Flexpass for $176 U.S. would give you 3 fully-coverred travel days, and 50% off everything else. I think that one includes museums too.

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Nov 18th, 2006, 05:25 PM
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thanks guys-ill look into the swiss pass =D
I found the BEST hostel in florence but its booked out FOR 6 MONTHS!!! The first avail. date is July 1st! Gosh
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Nov 18th, 2006, 07:19 PM
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Ive looked into the swiss pass & if I combine an 8 consec. day pass for $255 with the free riviera card (50% train & funnicular & FREE bus) then it should work out okay..
Ill decide after I add up all the P2P prices.
Using the pass for 8 days in Interlaken, Luzern & Zurich..Im not sure if it will add up to more than $250, but if i add it up minus the cable car and compare i dont know
Lots of work!!
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Nov 18th, 2006, 07:47 PM
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Rail passes didn't work out to my favor once I added it all up. Then again, I'm no longer eligible for youth passes, which you are more than still qualified for (and you should go for it if it's to your advantage!).

Wish I was able to travel when I was eligible...

I'm hoping to save enough using hostels to put Florence and Rome back into my itinerary!
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