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mkdiebold May 9th, 2006 07:07 PM

Help with coffee addiction!
 
"Hello, my name is Kathy and I'm a coffee-aholic." I need help continuing my addiction while traveling for 3 weeks in France. Having been to Europe several times, I know full well that "their" coffee isn't the same as ours. I find the amount served too small and too strong. Besides that, it's always expensive.

I'd like to be able to make coffee in my hotel room. Will I be able to buy an appliance for boiling water? I have a very small Melitta coffee maker that requires pouring boiling water over the ground coffee.

Where would I shop for such an appliance in Paris?

What brand of coffee would you recommend?

Thanks! Just the thought of withdrawal gives me the shakes!

icithecat May 9th, 2006 07:15 PM

You can buy an immersion heater like this. Hope the link works.

http://www.backer-elektro.cz/en/191.shtml

Scarlett May 9th, 2006 07:21 PM

Now , see, that is where you and I are different..I go to Europe and love the coffee everywhere I go and I whine about missing it when I come home.
I have a friend who just bought a super duper coffee maker that reminds her of the coffee she had in Paris

The brand of coffee would be what they serve there, won't it be too strong?

I think the best way to boil water fast, is to buy an electric kettle. You can get it in Galleries Lafayette, any home store and my mind is blank..so others will help with that.

I am so sad that you will miss that jolt of caffeine in the am that makes me open my eyes @-)

mkdiebold May 9th, 2006 07:44 PM

icithecat: the link worked just fine but I don't see how much it costs nor how to order it. Might I buy this at Galleries Lafayette?

What do you think of Scarlett's suggestion of the electric kettle?

Scarlett May 9th, 2006 07:46 PM

Yes, what do you think of my suggestion? :D lol

mkdiebold May 9th, 2006 07:55 PM

Scarlett: We will be traveling via train and car for a couple of weeks after Paris. Which appliance do you think to be smaller and therefore doable for my carry-on suitcase? The immersion heater looks pretty handy but the kettle would probably heat more water at once. Your opinion, please. Thanks

Scarlett May 9th, 2006 08:04 PM

My friends in London never use pots of water anymore when making tea, they just put the kettle on and it is boiling hot in what seems to be seconds!
My daughter has one here and it is the same.
I would just get something small that you can use there, the plug will be different and you will not be able to use it here when you get home..
They make all sizes and types..it just depends on what you want to spend. They all seem to work well from my experience .

fishee May 9th, 2006 08:07 PM

Don't they sell household appliances at monoprix? My friend has a great little appliance called a "hot shot" that boils 2 cups of water in less than 2 minutes -- it's some major brand name that I don't remember, and small enough to pack but there's the voltage/converter issue if you buy it here.

fishee May 9th, 2006 08:10 PM

Here's a link to the hotshot

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...e&n=284507

It's smaller than it looks in the picture...

mkdiebold May 9th, 2006 08:15 PM

Thanks fishee, for the suggestion and the link. I'm familiar with this item for the USA. I'll probably just have to shop around in Paris for whatever looks most efficient and small.

Does anyone know the French vocabulary for "electric kettle" or "immersion heater"? Thanks

fishee May 9th, 2006 08:19 PM

...although not nearly as small as that immersion thing... impressive.

I lugged a cheap($9.99,very light, plastic plug-in kettle thing around with me when I had to drink this tea with some steeped Chinese root 3 times a day. I was at a conference for 4 days and it fit into my carry on and I was able to pack my little tank tops into it so it didn't waste too much space.

icithecat May 9th, 2006 08:22 PM

mkdiebold;
You must understand first that I am Canadian and that I have no idea of your nationality, so I can not suggest where you can buy this locally.
My mother, who was an herbal tea drinker in the '60s had one of these to travel.
They were available at travel shops or airports?
It weighed nothing, but was awkward to use.
I typed 'travel immersion heater' in google and that was the first hit.
I see that it is .cz. Maybe there is somewhere closer to your home?

stormbird May 9th, 2006 08:56 PM

I travel with an immersion heater and find them fantastic. Mine is relatively new and is not at all awkward to use as there is a thingymajiggy (I hope that's not too technical a description )on the side that enables it to sit on the lip of your cup.
Here in Oz they, along with travel kettles, travel irons etc are sold in bag/suitcase shops.

hanl May 9th, 2006 09:40 PM

If you want a really cheap electric kettle try Darty (www.darty.com) - it's the main French electrical goods chain and there are branches all over Paris. We bought one from there for about 10 euros. Monoprix does have a limited selection of electrical goods but they don't usually stock the cheaper models. I don't know if they'd have kettles.

worldinabag May 9th, 2006 10:08 PM

Hi

I use the same unit as stormbird. They are also available in camping stores here in OZ. I have used mine frequently in my travels. They are great. The advantage is they are very space efficient and boil water quickly. Make sure you switch them off when they are removed from the liquid. I forgot to do this once in my Athens hotel room. OK no damage done but as for the rest well "Let's not go there girlfriend"

Cheers

PatrickLondon May 10th, 2006 03:03 AM

mkdiebold, the word you're looking for is "bouilloire" (roughly, "bwee-y'war"). I see Darty's online shop has an electric kettle with safety cut-out for 9.95 Euro, or an immersion heater such as worldinabag describes("thermoplongeur") for 14.95 Euro.

You can find their local branches at www.pagesjaunes.fr.

ira May 10th, 2006 03:08 AM

Hi M,

>I find the amount served too small and too strong. <

Have you asked for cafe American?

Same amount of coffee, but it is in a bigger cup because they add water.

((I))

Leota May 10th, 2006 03:39 AM

I found a dual voltage travel coffee maker at packinglight. It's called a Zelco Brisk Brew. It's roughly 6" x 4" x 3". Perhaps you want to look that up?I plan to get one for our upcoming trip to Italy. It has decent reviews. Does anyone here have first-hand experience with this product?

I can't budge from our room without coffee. I have a B&D travel coffeemaker, but it isn't dual voltage & is rather bulky. Immersion heaters won't help me as I can't stomach instant coffee. I need good, strong drip.

mkdiebold May 10th, 2006 04:48 AM

Wow! Woke this morning to your many suggestions! Thanks a million! As to answer ira...yep, I've drunk "cafe Americano" in Italy and learned how to ask for "a small coffee in a larger cup, and a pot of hot water" in German. My current request is for those wee hours of the morning, before hitting the shower. Just need my java to kick start the day.

Leota: look at the rig that Mellita offers. It's definitely a drip method brew. I have a couple of their travel mugs where the coffee cone(with paper filter) sits directly on the thermo mug. Use a scoop of finely ground beans and hot water for a delicious coffee. You can regulate the strength by the amount of coffee in the cone. Look for Melitta paper filters in your grocery store. Some of them are offering a "free" travel mug for only the shipping cost. Pretty good deal I think.

PatrickLondon May 10th, 2006 06:31 AM

You can get a simple holder for a filter paper and coffee very cheaply. I got an aluminium one in the Netherlands for a couple of Euro at most, and I have an earthenware one that I bought from a Muji shop. The problem is judging the right amount of water for the mug or other container it's sitting on.

eliztrav May 10th, 2006 07:06 AM

Just a footnote on the Sunbeam Hotshot. I adore mine. Have had one for YEARS and wouldn't want to be without it. BUT I would never consider traveling to Europe with it. The usual voltage things and it is too big. Also, you must take care to never hit the "on" button when there is no water in the tank. And, you can only put water in the tank.

emmalee_71 May 10th, 2006 07:40 AM

YOu could always drink tea :-) Sorry I couldn't resist.

Leota May 10th, 2006 08:14 AM

Thanx mkdiebold - I'll check it out.

hypatia Jan 24th, 2007 12:23 PM

for those of you reading this and interested in the immersion heater:
the ones years ago were good put could present a fire hazard..I personaly would never forget to unplug it but now the gov. has decreed that they have a onetime overload switch-off.
I spent 15 bucks on one and my partner took it out of the liquid and it was dead the first time.why cant they make this thing with a reset? That was the white one however there is one that is black(squareish) and it contains lead and other cancer causing metals so beware.

Heimdall Jan 24th, 2007 12:56 PM

As an American living in Europe, my problem is finding a good cup of coffee when I return for visits to the US.

What brand of coffee to buy? Go to any supermarket in the UK, and you have a huge selection of ground coffee from Kenya, Columbia, and many other countries. I assume the same would be true in France. You can choose different blends, from the strong, full roast used for espresso, medium roast, etc. Nowadays you can buy Fairtrade coffee, where the growers are guaranteed a fair price for their beans. My favourite ground coffee comes from Rwanda.

Christina Jan 24th, 2007 01:07 PM

I have bought the immersion coil in Paris and in Nice, and it was labeled as a thermoplongeur. However, they are not easy to find and I never saw one in MOnoprix. I finally found one in a small neighborhood electronics shop, and then it wasn't on display and I had to explain what it was in French before they knew what I was looking for and went and found one out back.

These are easy to buy dual-voltage or just European voltage and plug ahead of time in North America, why not do that instead of spending your time trying to find one in France.

I don't know about where you live, but travel stores in the US sell them with Eur. plugs and 220 voltage. I bought one at AAA travel store. They are also readily available dual voltage but then you'd need a plug adaptor, although I always carry one of those, anyway.

Don't spend your time on vacation looking for one of these, take it from me, it won't be that easy to find probably when you want it.

annhig Jan 24th, 2007 01:15 PM

on the subject of tea [very close to my heart, being a Brit] i had decent tea abroad for the first time ever in several cafes in venice on a recent trip.

nowhere else in Italy can make tea. Why Venice?

Travelnut Jan 24th, 2007 01:22 PM

"...I found a dual voltage travel coffee maker at packinglight. It's called a Zelco Brisk Brew. It's roughly 6" x 4" x 3". Perhaps you want to look that up?I plan to get one for our upcoming trip to Italy. It has decent reviews. Does anyone here have first-hand experience with this product?..."

Yes, I got one as a gift. It worked fine on a weekend jaunt here in the States. That's the only time I've used it so far. It's quite compact and not heavy. The little containers won't hold enough ingredients, though. I'd just buy coffee and cream at the grocer in Europe. You have to let it cool off maybe 1-2 minutes before you can brew a 2nd cup.

portia12 Jan 24th, 2007 02:08 PM

I also have a Zelko Brisk Brew which I take to Europe. I love this little coffee/tea maker and won't travel without it. If I put it in my carryon, however, I usually get a good going-over by security. I just explain that it is a coffeemaker and that usually satisfies them (it is a little strange looking).

StCirq Jan 24th, 2007 02:13 PM

I would guess, annhig, because Venice was a major East-West trading port for a few centuries...same reason you find some fairly exotic oriental spices in Venetian cooking...

wco81 Jan 24th, 2007 03:22 PM

Or maybe the OP should learn to make do with a couple of espressos -- should be cheaper than the ones sold in the US -- while abroad.

Or take a capuccino in the morning instead of jumping through hoops, taking a bit of Americana overseas.

walkinaround Jan 24th, 2007 03:28 PM

>>>>>>
My friends in London never use pots of water anymore when making tea, they just put the kettle on and it is boiling hot in what seems to be seconds!
>>>>>>

this post is precious and so quaint. 99.9% of homes and hotel rooms in britain have an electric kettle that boils water in seconds...and have had for decades.

sorry, this just sounds very funny to us. very charming.

like saying you have a friend who no longer makes toast on the cooker but in an electric appliance that toasts the bread in a minute!

daveesl Jan 24th, 2007 03:46 PM

Well, while I like foreign coffee, I'm stuck on my Folgers most of the time. We take a small "hotpot", about 800 watts. We can stuff it full of socks and stuff, so it doesn't really take up any room. Then we use the Folger's individual coffee bags, take some sugar and flavored creamers with us and we are set.

The hotpot plugs into our 1500 watt voltage converter and boils water in about a minute. It's great for a couple of cups of coffee or hot chocolate. You can also use them to heat soup or something like that if needed.

I think I paid like $10 for mine at Walgreens and it finally quit working on this trip.

mkdiebold Jan 24th, 2007 04:04 PM

"Hello, my name is still Kathy and I'm still a coffee-aholic!"

It's a funny feeling to see one of your posts from 8+ months ago pop up in the flow of new messages. Guess that proves that the search/archives feature of this board really works.

Just to update you, I did purchase an immersion coil for our trip to France. Yes, it did require a converter. No problem there. It worked fine for a couple of times until my husband decided to "make the coffee" and he totally immersed the entire coil. That was the end of that handy-dandy tool!

Before we travel again, I'll purchase a small electric kettle. Hopefully he won't be able to destroy it!


Christina Jan 25th, 2007 12:45 PM

I was interested in the comments about the overload thing on the coil, and looked at the Franzus website and AAA, and sure enough, they don't sell that model anymore. I have several of them and they've lasted for years, though.

However, AAA online travel store does have just a regular white one that is a different brand than Franzus still for sell.

I can actually understand the point about fire hazard, although you could easily do the same thing with many tools and appliances, so not sure how they handle that (like irons, or those hot pots, etc., which you could leave on with no liquid in them).

I like that Hot Shot thing. I have a similar electric pot that boils water in a minute or so that I just got at CVS drugstore for about $10. It's about the size of a small teapot.

What is wrong with your husband, I can't even imagine why you'd stick the whole thing in the water. Don't let him around machinery or the kitchen or a hair dryer in the bathroom (he'd probably put it underwater).

NeoPatrick Jan 25th, 2007 02:04 PM

Christina, don't be too hard on the husband. He picked up something apparently labeled or at least called "an immersion" heater, and he immersed it. What could be more logical than that?

Christina Jan 25th, 2007 02:15 PM

yeah, I suppose, but the coil itself isn't labeled anything and doesn't say that, it's only on the packaging. It also has warning instructions on it about how to use it (although you could rip them off, I'm sure). It's just obvious that the metal part is the part that gets hot and heats things and the plastic part with cord is not. I'm just glad no one got hurt.

annhig Jan 26th, 2007 03:55 AM

Does anyone know why the Uk habit of providing a kettle plus tea/coffee in hotel rooms hasn't caught on elsewhere? It's now standard here and I really miss it when i go abroad. [ie out of the UK]

walkinaround Jan 26th, 2007 02:35 PM

>>>>>
Does anyone know why the Uk habit of providing a kettle plus tea/coffee in hotel rooms hasn't caught on elsewhere?
>>>>>

-costly requirement that electrics in hotel rooms be inspected by electricians periodically (many european countries-including britain).
-hard to clean (people try to cook in them and they get gunked with calcium)
-hazard when an idiot tries to use with no water.
-they are small and can be easily stolen
-they provide little or no advantage to the hotel in increased sales
-you must then provide assortment of coffee or tea which is often just taken by guests.
-it detracts from restaurant/room service sales.

in britain they are expected - like towels in the bath. innkeepers have no choice. they are not expected in most other countries so innkeepers generally do not bother.

btw, i have often seen them in china as well as britain.

mkdiebold Jan 26th, 2007 04:02 PM

I agree that a room kettle would be a fantastic amenity. We traveled around France for 3 weeks in September. The only place that provided the kettle was in Dijon. We were there only one night, then caught the fast train to CDG.


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