Heat in London

Jul 1st, 2005, 02:25 AM
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Hey TuckerDC, guess where I just returned from the past week, Chicago!! It was 95F! Hot! Subway cars were A/C'd as were the cabs. (people are the nicest in the world there!)

On my previous post I was saying that platforms in NYC are very hot, but the subway cars are very cool (A/C) The platform at Penn Station is probably more like over 100 F while waiting, but when you get on the subway car, ah, relief!(my husband's former work stop=Penn St until a year ago)

To NYTraveler, I never knew that they had installed A/c in the subways 20 years ago.(By the way I am not a traveler here this is my home area) All I remember while riding the subways in NYC in the 1980's was the heat in the cars,(non working A/C apparently) the grafitti on the cars and the crime in the subway. Then it changed during the Mayor Giuliani years in the 90's.
The MTA is indeed run by the state not the city but in the 90's the MTA asked for the Mayors help in certain areas. See Mayor Giuliani's book (page 48)Interesting read.

As for London Tube riders, why doesn't London install A/C? And how long does it last? Just July to Aug?
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Jul 1st, 2005, 03:24 AM
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I knew I'd read this somewhere!!

Q. Why don't the trains on London Underground have air conditioning?

A. A number of reasons. First, the climate in the UK is not generally warm enough to warrant the expense of installing air conditioning in houses and it is only put into modern buildings where glass walls increase the ambient temperature. On the Underground, if air conditioning was put onto trains, the waste heat would be dumped into the tunnels. There is nowhere for it to go, so the tunnel temperature would rise even more than it does now. The control of tunnel temperature is a constant battle requiring ventilation plant all over the system and which is combined with draught limitation shafts to keep the wind speeds low enough for comfort and temperatures at a reasonable level. If trains had air conditioning, then it would soon be necessary to air condition the stations and tunnels. This would be excessively expensive.

On tube trains, which are smaller than the District, Circle and Metropolitan trains, there is no room to put air conditioning equipment unless you enclose several square metres of passenger space inside each of the cars. Also, the energy consumption of air conditioning is very high and there is not enough voltage available over the system to support air conditioning without increasing the capacity of the power supply system.

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Jul 1st, 2005, 04:51 AM
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Jody, that's all interesting, but if London gets the Olympics, part of the deal includes putting air conditioning on the Tube (and fixing the Northern Line).
BTilke is offline  
Jul 1st, 2005, 04:57 AM
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P.G. we won't!
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Jul 1st, 2005, 11:11 AM
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My guess is London or Paris for the 2012! I cant wait till we find out.
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Jul 1st, 2005, 11:45 AM
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...you can buy a copy of Heat magazine at any newsstand in London, and indeed the UK! (Glossy Gossip!)

Temperature has dropped way down today - and it's raining. Heat is not so much the problem in London - it's the humidity which seems to increase every year.
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