Health Care in Europe

Old Dec 10th, 2003, 06:25 AM
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Hi waterloo,

Are you comparing a private hospital in the UK with a public hospital in NYC?

Hi Sue,

The $450US was the premiums to be paid for being enrolled in a plan that might save $2700 on your bills. It is still a savings of $2250.

Apparently, however, we won't be able to purchase private insurance to cover the $2250.

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Old Dec 10th, 2003, 06:28 AM
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Ira,

No. I am comparing a private hospital in the US to a private hospital in the UK.
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Old Dec 10th, 2003, 06:45 AM
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Well that should give those who think we have the best health care in the world something to think about.
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Old Dec 10th, 2003, 08:38 AM
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Both the European and American health care systems have advantages and disadvantages. And people in both areas pay for it one way or another--taxes to the government or direct payments to care providers or insurance companies.

Most European systems closely control who can get what kinds of care according to cost effectiveness; e.g., many treatments that are routine in the USA for older people are not provided at all to older people in many European systems as they are too old to make the treatment cost effective. You can get advanced, cutting edge treatments much more easily and quickly in the USA than in Europe--MRIs and such aren't rationed by the government in the USA; they are rationed by how much money you have or how good your health insurance is. Thousands of Canadians come across the border to the USA each year for tests and treatments that they pay full fare for out of their pockets--because the waiting list is very long or they don't meet the strict requirements for the treatment in the Canadian system. In Europe, expensive private clinics outside the government system provide the same service. In the USA, we spend much more on what are considered "hopeless" or "quality of life maintenance" cases than in the European system--that boosts costs in the USA a lot.

On the other hand, poorer folks in most European countries have access to more care options than in the USA.

Quality of care is pretty much equal in the USA and western Europe--you can find some lousy hospitals and staff anywhere, but both areas have very high standards compared to most of the rest of the world.
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Old Dec 10th, 2003, 08:55 AM
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My cousin in the UK, while waiting for treatment from the state-run hospital, almost died from a heart condition. Since then he's gotten private insurance and he says it's worlds better.

I think what a previous poster said is accurate. For those without private insurance, treatment is better in Europe, but for those with insurance treatment is better in the US.

The taxes issue really complicates the comparison. Most of Europe is highly socialized and highly taxed, unlike the US.
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