Have you been to Spain AND Hawaii?

Aug 19th, 1999, 11:51 PM
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Mike above said that the non-tourist parts of Hawaii are relatively poor. Compared to what?!? I have totally circled all 5 islands and found them to be not only GORGEOUS but not nearly as poverty stricken and downtrodden as the Caribbean, not by a LONG SHOT!! As a matter of fact, the standard of living is quite excellent in comparison!!!
Aug 20th, 1999, 12:49 AM
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Mike, I have to agree with Ted. I've been to Hawaii several times, to the four major islands, and though there are residents on the lower end of the economic scale, there's nothing like the poverty my friends have described seeing on their Caribbean vacations. And I disagree that most of Hawaii is "very touristy." There are still many, many areas to get away from it all, and they're not hard to find!
Aug 21st, 1999, 04:04 AM
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I don't know about the rest of Portugal, but Lisbon is very dirty, rather slummy and dangerous!
Aug 21st, 1999, 04:41 AM
Jim Mitchell
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The Costa Brava section (Northeast)of Spain offers some of the most beautiful views of the Med. as well as quaint fishing towns. I would trade the short plane ride to Spain rather than the trip to the islands any day.

Relaxation along the coast abounds, and you have day trips to the mountains, the south of France, many varied venues available to you.

On top of all that you have a variety of languages and cultures.
Aug 23rd, 1999, 11:17 AM
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We spent 2 weeks in Spain and Portugal this summer on the Algarve and Andalucia. It can be a very reasonably priced vacation. Email me directly if you want. we also flew out of Cinti
Sep 5th, 1999, 06:27 AM
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We were in Barcelona in April, and must say it is a city not to be missed. Clean, beautiful, and the people are delightful. If you can work it in your plans, it is not one to miss.
Sep 5th, 1999, 03:02 PM
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Since you are far enough ahead and going in the off-season, consider staying in the government-sponsored paradors in Spain and pousadas in Portugal. Reasonable and often set in castles, etc. Really a special treat. Ask at tourist boards and travel agancies for info as to where and other details--and try to include as many as possible!

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