Has anyone noticed that the networks have now learned how to pronounce "Wojtyła"?
Apr 6th, 2005, 03:54 PM
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Has anyone noticed that the networks have now learned how to pronounce "Wojtyła"?
I just heard then on CNN saying "Voy-tee-wah".
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Although, the same news announcers, in the same sentence are still saying "Krak-COW".
I guess it's a good thing they don't need to try to pronounce "Vrotswov" (Wrocław).
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Rex
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Although, the same news announcers, in the same sentence are still saying "Krak-COW".
I guess it's a good thing they don't need to try to pronounce "Vrotswov" (Wrocław).
Best wishes,
Rex
Apr 6th, 2005, 04:19 PM
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Yes, I have heard "Voy-tee-way" from some but have also heard "Voy-tee-ya". As for Krakow, yesterday I had a conversation with a colleague from Poland who pronounced it "KraCOW", perhaps taking the position that that is the English pronounciation of it in the same way that we say Rome, not Roma.
Apr 6th, 2005, 06:18 PM
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"Voy-tee-wah" is still not quite right.
The second syllable should be pronounced like the "ti" in the word "till", and not like the tee in golf.
Polish is actually very phonetic - honest!!
The second syllable should be pronounced like the "ti" in the word "till", and not like the tee in golf.
Polish is actually very phonetic - honest!!
Apr 6th, 2005, 06:31 PM
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Actually the name is not really spelled "Walesa" - the "l" has a line through it indicating that it is pronounced almost like an English "w", while the "e" actually has a cedilla which changes the pronounciation to be more like the "en" that you hear (although not quite). The point is - every time you see a letter it is pronounced exactly the same way - hence phonetic.
Compare this to English with words like through, dough, bough, tough, etc.
Compare this to English with words like through, dough, bough, tough, etc.
Apr 6th, 2005, 07:34 PM
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Robesp...
I can read your use of ł (&#322
and ę (&#281 in your "corrected" spelling of Wałęsa - - but not three of the characters in your phonetic spelling (for some reason) - - what all did you type there?
And I never knew that "Walesa" is/was so widely spelled and pronounced wrong in the media. Wonder why?
Even (the golfer Jose Maria) Olazabal gets better respect than this!
I can read your use of ł (&#322
and ę (&#281 in your "corrected" spelling of Wałęsa - - but not three of the characters in your phonetic spelling (for some reason) - - what all did you type there?And I never knew that "Walesa" is/was so widely spelled and pronounced wrong in the media. Wonder why?
Even (the golfer Jose Maria) Olazabal gets better respect than this!
Apr 6th, 2005, 07:50 PM
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Actually Rex, (I don't know how you do the Polish letters on this forum?? - oh well) Walesa doesn't get much respect back in Poland either. He is famous for the "unique" way he expresses himself, one of his most widely quoted sayings is "I am for it, and even against it" (a rough translation from Polish).
Apr 6th, 2005, 08:00 PM
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Actually I explained it right there in my last post (and in the first post of this thread)
"ł" is entered as ł
"ę" is entered as ę
Other examples are given here - -
http://www.starr.net/is/type/htmlcodes.html
... and at countless other places across the internet.
For the sake of clarity, "&" is entered as & in the examples above.
"ł" is entered as ł
"ę" is entered as ę
Other examples are given here - -
http://www.starr.net/is/type/htmlcodes.html
... and at countless other places across the internet.
For the sake of clarity, "&" is entered as & in the examples above.
