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Had scary flight to Europe.... then afraid to fly back home

Had scary flight to Europe.... then afraid to fly back home

Oct 5th, 2007, 07:20 PM
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lynnjoel, I'm curious if you have read any of the other couple of dozen posts by the same poster? If not, I suggest you go read them and then see if you still agree with your own post. Most of the comments being made here relate only to this post in the context of the many other posts the same poster has done.
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Oct 5th, 2007, 07:43 PM
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Except, Lynne, distant traveler is mostly likely a phoney. Clip on his name, check his other postings, He just started posting a few days ago, story changes all the time, time lines don't match, etc. I think someone is just having fun with the list. All his posts have the same style.
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Oct 6th, 2007, 02:28 AM
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"Terrorism took another innocent life in London when a man refused to stop and jumped over the TUBE turnstyles when he was being chased by police."

That isn't true either. The police gave a false report of the event immediately afterwards (and an investigation is in court right now). The man was a normal commuter, walked normally into the train station after travelling from home by bus, picked up a free newspaper, used his Oyster card to walk through the turnstyles, walked down to the train, got on, and took a seat. There is CCTV tape showing all this. Surveillance officers were following him but at no point was he challenged, spoken to, or asked to stop. Then armed police burst onto the train, the survellance officers yelled 'there he is' and the armed police went over and shot him 8 times at point blank range, while one of them held him down.
The man was not mentally ill. He was not behaving oddly in any way. He was not given any opportunity to talk to the officers. He just had the misfortune to live in the same block of apartments as a suspect, and was followed and shot in error.
Unbelievably, the court case is one on 'health & safety' rather than manslaughter or murder. The UK is outraged by this event. Not only did they 'get' the wrong man, but even if he had been a terrorist with a bomb they let him use a bus and then get on a tube train before doing anything, instead of stopping him when he left his building. ...and then there are all the lies the police told after the shooting, all the rubbish about his odd clothing (not true), his running (not true), his jumping the tube barriers (not true). The police themselves admit now that none of their statement was true. So why is nothing being done to punish those involved?
I think I now live in a banana republic...
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Oct 6th, 2007, 02:30 AM
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...but they've apologised to his family so I guess that's alright then.

Google Jean Charles de Menzes for more info.
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Oct 6th, 2007, 03:49 AM
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Regardless of dt's motives, it's something many of us have demons about and individual ways of coping/ rationalising which may be useful for others. Mine is that I should have been a lot more worried when I was young (and bounced around in light planes and parachuted with only rudimentary training) and had a lot more to lose than I do now. And of course, watching programs like Air Crash Investigations the night before a flight doesn't help either, whether or not you know perfectly well that you have a much higher chance of coming to grief on the way to or from the airport ...
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Oct 6th, 2007, 03:53 AM
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"tarmac delay", " spooked" "Xanax" - Not words or phrases that I have commonly heard in UK English, but the great Girlspytravel has discovered something she doesn't like, so there must be a UK connection.
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Oct 7th, 2007, 10:50 PM
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distant_traveler: I think you are a lot safer staying home. That way you can stay up all night and watch that relative of yours spend all night packing her suitcase.

If you click on distant_traveler's name you will find a series of entertaining posts.

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Oct 8th, 2007, 03:53 AM
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I was flying from San Francisco to Atlanta recently and he had some strong turbulence. I could tell a few people around me were nervous. I said out loud, "This is better than Disney World," and the people around me began to chuckle. I just don't like turbulence during take-offs and landings. Once the plane is at crusing altitude, it makes the flight a little more interesting.
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Oct 8th, 2007, 10:30 AM
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Try flying in an airplane that is on fire and experience going over the procedures for a landing at sea rather than having breakfast.

That should make your minor problems seem more in perspective.

I am not hatching an apocryphal story.
It happened to me on August 31, 2003 in a flight from Philadelphia to Dublin.
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Oct 8th, 2007, 10:46 AM
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Bob - me too (London-Boston 1995) - though we didn't get quite as far as the actual life-jacket/ditching instructions.

The fire was inside the cabin, caused by a smoker, and was put out, after several increasingly frantic attempts, by the flight attendants. We (the passengers) then got a mass bollocking over the intercom which was nearly as frightening as the blaze itself.

Directly following this, tea, scones and strawberry jam were served (to those not vomiting or passed out in terror!!!). How very British!
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Oct 8th, 2007, 01:11 PM
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I am more intrigued - to be polite - by the myriad of posts that distant traveler has thrown up on the board - similiar to what Patrick and Nona noticed....

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Oct 8th, 2007, 01:55 PM
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I'm not casting aspersions, but the appearance of "doom and gloom" distant traveler seemed to pretty much coincide with a surprising departure of another "doom and gloom" poster.
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Oct 8th, 2007, 02:11 PM
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Another idea is try to get a job on a cargo ship that sails to the US from Plymouth or Southampton as a sailor.
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Oct 8th, 2007, 04:19 PM
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You sure have a lot of problems and weird questions for someone who just showed up on this forum a week ago.
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Oct 9th, 2007, 07:44 PM
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Nothing but silence today---maybe he really was flying to Europe (Spain and Portugal, I think) this week?
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Oct 10th, 2007, 07:26 AM
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Back to Jody's and AAFrequentFlyer's discussion of that incident in Miami. I really am curious about the facts of that case. I do remember hearing at the time that there were claims that no-one except the Air Marshalls heard him say anything about a bomb (although it seems to be established that he did run off the plane in a panic). I have not heard anything more, although I don't necessarily follow the news on a daily basis so may well have missed the follow-up.
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