Guidebook for Eastern Europe?
 

From the beginning of September until mid-October I'll be in Southeastern Europe for work (mainly the countries of the former Yugoslavia but also Albania, probably Hungary, and maybe Romania and/or Bulgaria). I'm wondering if taking a guidebook along would be a good idea, and if so, which one. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would use it to consider weekend trips as well as things to do in the places I find myself for work.

Obviously a lot of info is on the web, but I'm not sure how much Internet access I will have outside work.

As far as leisure goes, I enjoy learning about the history and culture of places I visit (incl. historic sites & museums), as well as photography (both urban and nature). I'm not a big outdoorsman but do enjoy some hiking/walking. I am not interested in nightlife (bars, pubs, dancing) but would enjoy a concert or "folk performance".

For accommodations and dining I run to the budget end of things rather than the 5-star end. I'm old enough that a hostel dorm bed is not an option, though!

Any suggestion for which ONE guidebook might best serve me for the countries I mentioned above? It need not be limited to only those, although I doubt I will range as far north as Poland or the countries of the former USSR, and probably not the Czech Republic or Slovakia. I have looked at a few books, but from the perspective of sitting at home before the trip, they all seem to have advantages and disadvantages, so I am having a hard time deciding.

Thanks!

I'm a Rick Steves fan myself (of his books, anyway). I find his advice practical and subjective. I don't always agree with it, but at least I know where he's coming from. I'm not sure his books will cover Albania, though. His Croatia/Slovenia book (last I checked) covered Mostar, BiH and a little of Montenegro but that's it.

No guidebook is perfect. If you're gone for six weeks, why not take two of them?

I envy you. Six weeks over there sounds like fun! I enjoyed Croatia, but I really loved Slovenia and would love to go back to the area. It would be great to have a long period to check out things between your working hours vs. trying to do it all as one long vacation.

I got the Rick Steves guide last year for Eastern Europe and thought it was very good. It's the first of his books that I've used, and I enjoyed his sense of humor as well as his knowledge of the area.

Thanks, Andrew. Taking two books would be nice, but I am pretty limited in space in my luggage. I can see if I can fit in an extra. (I like Rick Steves as well, by the way.)

The time should be enjoyable, but also pretty busy. For example, in Albania I will not have any free time (including evenings) during my working days there, although I might be able to tack on an extra day at the end for leisure.

I have to be back in the States right after my work assignment ends, for other reasons, so no extending for vacation after my work is done. Instead I'll have to do weekend trips and maybe take a weekday off once or twice to do any touring.

Another vote for RS's Croatia and Slovenia book. Don't miss Slovenia, if you can, it's a small, beautiful gem.

I don't think Rick Steve's is as comprehensive as you need for the region (ex. Albania)

I am an American living in Budapest. To give us the best regional overview, I use lonely planet.

Do you own a kindle? That is, I find, the easiest way to tote guidebooks.

I tend to pack extremely light when I travel and usually take only two guidebooks if not one. For areas not covered by my primary guidebook, I just photocopy sections I need - usually don't take up much room. (If you have a printer at your work facility over there - scan the pages before you leave and print them when you arrive.) Obviously if you choose Rick Steves you'd want to find a second guidebook that covers Albania - or rather, the parts of Albania you think you'd want to see. It sounds like you're really not going to have a ton of spare time, so maybe you can sort of pick your trips ahead of time. You really don't need a book that covers all of Eastern Europe, right?

And if you wind up wanting to take a trip not covered in a guidebook...wing it with some vital internet research the night before you do the trip.

Kindle would be an alternative too of course if that's an option.

Thanks for your suggestions, everyone.

A country-specific book (like RS's Croatia/Slovenia) is nice for the extra detail it offers over a regional guide. Unfortunately, I can't afford a book (or the space they occupy) for every country I will or might visit.

Kindle would be nice, except I find them hard to use for things like guidebooks, where I want to be able to flip easily between sections, and to use with graphics. For things that I read linearly, like novels, they are much simpler to use.

Hence, my quest for a good all-around guidebook (knowing that none is perfect).

I've purchasied a RS book for my mini tablet. Saves a lot of room and weight I don't want to depend on Internet access.

This also holds my magazines and novels, if I have time to read along the way

Andrew,

I want to take a guidebook precisely because I don't rally have time before I leave to plan excursions or to photocopy or scan a lot. I arrive in Europe Sep 2, but I will be on a trip to Asia for 10 days before that.

I'd like to be able to peruse the entire book (would make good reading on the plane, for example) and then focus in on places of interest. That would be much easier to do with a guidebook than going online (online is great for details, but I find guidebooks better for big picture).

Because this is mainly a work trip, I have to fit in sightseeing around that. So I can't even plan at this point exactly which weekends I might travel or what weekdays I might take off.

But at least I get to travel, for which I am thankful.

I guess I should at this point insert some of my thoughts on possible guidebooks:

Lonely Planet (2011; 2013 is not out until November) seems to be the most recent guide that covers all the countries that interest me (as well as some I have little likelihood of visiting).

Fodor's and Frommer's guides, though comprehensive, are a bit dated at this point.

Rick Steves Eastern Europe only has Croatia, Slovenia, and Hungary, so I would need another book in addition. :(

DK Eastern & Central Europe is from 2012 and I like their style, but it lacks Albania, Montenegro, and Macedonia. It is another publisher where how much you sacrifice in going from a country guide to the regional guide is readily apparent (e.g. comparing their Croatia guide to the Croatia section of their E&CE guide).

Lonely Planet isn't usually my first choice (I feel like it is pitched to a younger crowd), but in this case it might end up being one that meets the most of my requirements. I did want to hear what experiences others have had, though. I have read that sometimes books that look great when you are at home are not very useful once abroad.

Andrew... I am 55... So if lonely planet is for a younger crowd, they are older than me!? Yikes!!

I use guide books for historic overviews, to select interesting towns and cities, for reference maps (none of which changes in 2 years).

I do not use guidebooks for restaurants or hotel suggestions.... If you do, yes... You will need a newer book.

I use it to see if I can squeeze in Macedonia and if so is a bus or train the better alternative.

My go-to guide books are from The Rough Guide. I also generally find Lonely Planet guidebooks very helpful, although I don't like their maps as well.

Cranachin... Lonely planet is never my first choice either. But I used them for this because they cover all the countries. But it is a relatively big book.

For as long as we live here, we are trying to priorize Eastern Europe travel... If you already know the subset of countries, that is an advantage.

Kia, I will need to look closer at rough guides. Do they have a book which covers the entire east/central region?

I actually do like Rick Steve's ... But I find his books on Central Europe to be lacking. I never get the sense from reading them that he actually comes here. His bratislava coverage (we lived there before moving to Budapest) is inaccurate.

DK Eyewitness Travel Guide: Eastern and Central Europe 2012 Edition; if you must use just one book. I also like the Kindle idea. So Centraleurope, once again, what region are you prioritizing?

My favorite guidebooks are Rick Steves. Second favorite are DK.

Hey bobandco... We are looking at Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Bosnia... The lesser travelled places (at least while we live here).

So, for this, Rick Steve's is out...and, of course, we bought our book here in Budapest (so a bit more limiting maybe... I will run by the bookstore today and see what they carry!)

try the Bradt guides - very very good on less visited designations

http://www.bradtguides.com/Category/....html?pageno=1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradt_Travel_Guides

CENTRALeurope I was giving you a hard time. Because you name got it right but your description didn't. When the time comes I can help a little with Romania and Bulgaria. I think you said you had been to Slovakia; I love Slovakia. Well for that matter I loved Bulgaria and Romania as well. Guess if I had to choose which I went back to first it would be Bulgaria, unless I had my fishing pole then I would go back to Slovakia first. Georgia and Albania are on the radar. Georgia because I have seen such great things but Albania just for the heck of it. Also Slovenia; more fishing of course. I guess what I am trying to say is why would anyone want to go to France? What you have missed not getting to Budapest sooner is Malev Airlines. Malev flew all over the region and at great prices. Things are a little tougher now but I heard something about a new Hungarian airline. Any word if its going to get in the air?

Centraleurope, you can order just about anything from Amazon UK and the shipping is very reasonable. I purchased a couple of safes for our guests to lock up their valuables and had them shipped to the Budapest apartments and despite the weight of the things the rate wasn't half bad.

Tx bob.... I will try it with something cheap!... We have had no luck getting mail delivered here... And the main post office - challenging!

I do tho order books from the bookstore. A fun project for today!

Which book store?

I have 4 go to bookstores... Pen dragon on pozsonyi... Goodreads on oktober 6, the ceu bookstore in front of saint Stephens... And a new/used bookstore in the basement on katona Josef a block down from Nyugati. (I read a lot....).

All will order, all have strengths and weaknesses.

We went exploring today and not to a bookstore... So I will hit up goodreads tomorrow when we go buy the weekend paper!

Thanks centraleurope, we will go poking around next month. Love books. You know when you are in the states next week you will be missing the Chocolate and Candy Festival, the wine festival and the horse races at Hero's Square!! and of course most importantly.........us.

And I overlooked an interesting observation on the culture. We have see a lot of the world and we have never been to a place that had as many bookstores as Budapest does.

Oh no Bob!,... Not chocolate !! (And you...!!)

For the most interesting book selection (IMO)... Go to the CEU bookstore. It is a block and a half out the front door of st stepen's on the right.

For the best if you just want any old book, try katona joszef ... A block or two from Nyugati on the right. They have a basement filled with used books.

Enjoy!

My son and I went in the CEU bookstore last year and we walked out with half the selections. Expensive place though. We go to Alexandra's for books and movies and to hang out

And you could try and pretend to be a little more broken up about missing me!!!! ;-)

Hey centraleurope and Bobandco—you take over my thread but you don't invite me to come visit you? What gives?? ;)

Excuse me cranacin... Do I know you?

Ok, just kidding... I did research guidebooks yesterday... Rough guides and Brandt are both good (and Brandt covers countries rarely covered).

But I did not see a comprehensive single book like lonely planets Eastern Europe.

Now, step aside please..... Hand the phone to bobandco...

I still vote for DK Eyewitness Travel Guide: Eastern and Central Europe 2012 Edition. A little shallow but easy to use.

Cranachin, we did sort of turn your thread into a chat room didn't we? CentralEurope is just too ...... Well, oh, the visit. Cranachin, you have a standing invitation to come visit when we are both in town. I will take you to the neighborhood wine bar and introduce you around a little. I will even put you up for a few nights if need be; inquire for rates ;-)

Thanks, Bobandco. I'll have to let you know if my travels will take me to Budapest.

You are almost always welcome.

I use guidebooks for research but never take them anymore. You can download as many as you want on a book reader to reduce heft in luggage.

Hey Bobandco and centraleurope,

Looks like I am likely to be in Budapest this weekend and/or early next week.

Will you be around?

oh my... I will not ... I am on my US home leave and return Sept. 24th (land that day, around 4).

But when you return, please, let me know. This is my last long visit home for a while.

Crainchin... Let me know if I misunderstood your timing. I am in town starting the 25th.

I work during the day - but am free early for coffee or later for a drink. Our apartment is in the Danube near Margit Hid (Pest side). We live on Szent Istvan Park (a nice park if you have not seen it). Cute places to eat on Poszonyi. You get there by the 4 or 6 tram - stop is Jaszai Mari Ter.

centraleurope,

Unfortunately, you didn't misunderstand :(

It looks like I probably will be in Budapest at some point in the range September 22–25. Most likely I would be heading out no later than the 25th, although that is still up in the air.

I'll let you know when the final schedule settles, which needs to be soon!

no worries... Even if you don't see me - stop by the neighborhood. I love Poszoyni...