Guggenheim and Sagrada Familia on world's most beautiful buildings list
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:59 AM
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Guggenheim and Sagrada Familia on world's most beautiful buildings list
The Guggenheim museum in Bilbao and Sagrada Familia in Barcelona are now on Lonely Planet's short list of the world's most beautiful buildings. The Winter Palace in St. Petersburg is the only other European on the list. http://www.lonelyplanet.com/egypt/tr...articles/76556
Aug 10th, 2012, 07:09 AM
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Lists are always odd and highly subjective. I do not think of those buildings in Spain as beautiful as much as I think of them as intriguing and innovative. For beauty I think The Alhambra is more beautiful as are the cave drawings at Altamira.
Aug 10th, 2012, 07:30 AM
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he-he, of course mixed opinions. I saw the Guggenheim as it rose out of the dirty Nervion riverbank over years, seemed at first as if they were building a ship. I find it immensely beautiful, not least how it reflects the light and colours of the surroundings and the very shifting Basque weather.
Aug 10th, 2012, 07:49 AM
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The Guggenheim I do find beautiful
But as much as I love Barcelona, I cannot find Sagrada Familia more than "interesting ".
Truly a not-to-miss landmark and a massive attraction, though.
But good that tastes differ or we all would be crowding the same ten destinations
But as much as I love Barcelona, I cannot find Sagrada Familia more than "interesting ".
Truly a not-to-miss landmark and a massive attraction, though.
But good that tastes differ or we all would be crowding the same ten destinations
Aug 10th, 2012, 08:43 AM
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Fascinating story around Sagrada Familia and Gaudí's enormous ambitions and obsession with the building of a church inspired by geometric forms of nature. He worked on it for 42 years, and the last 10 years he lived on the premises and was totally dedicated to the church. http://www.sagradafamilia.cat/sf-eng/?lang=0
He finally was run down by a tram and was initially assumed to be be a beggar because of his lack of identity documents and shabby clothing. He was therefore taken to a charity hospital for the city’s poor and homeless. His funeral five days later is said to have silenced Barcelona. http://www.catholicireland.net/pages...p?nd=57&art=25
He finally was run down by a tram and was initially assumed to be be a beggar because of his lack of identity documents and shabby clothing. He was therefore taken to a charity hospital for the city’s poor and homeless. His funeral five days later is said to have silenced Barcelona. http://www.catholicireland.net/pages...p?nd=57&art=25
Aug 13th, 2012, 10:40 AM
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I find Sagrada Familia to be jaw dropping amazing, intriguing, unique, but not necessarily beautiful. In terms of modernisme treasures in Barcelona, I find the Palau de Música Catalana to be the most beautiful.
The Guggenheim, now that I find beautiful.
And clearly I need to travel more and more broadly. I haven't seen any of the other buildings on the list.
The Guggenheim, now that I find beautiful.
And clearly I need to travel more and more broadly. I haven't seen any of the other buildings on the list.
Aug 13th, 2012, 10:58 AM
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Ah beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Never heard that before.
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The Alhambra is in Granada.
http://www.alhambra.org/eng/index.asp?secc=/inicio
http://www.google.com/search?q=alham...w=1119&bih=762
The one concept to remember about the Alhmabra is that the outside is simple while the inside is complex and beautiful which reflected Muslim thought at the time which is the way people should be.
Never heard that before.
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The Alhambra is in Granada.
http://www.alhambra.org/eng/index.asp?secc=/inicio
http://www.google.com/search?q=alham...w=1119&bih=762
The one concept to remember about the Alhmabra is that the outside is simple while the inside is complex and beautiful which reflected Muslim thought at the time which is the way people should be.
Aug 13th, 2012, 01:55 PM
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I guess my subliminal discomfort with Sagrada Familia comes from the architect's religious zeal: A temple towering over the city of sins. Boo-hoo.
The message of the Alhambra, or even more that of Toledo is one of enlightment, science and progress while the rest of Europe was still in the dark ages. Until the religious zeal that Gaudí promoted centuries later kicked Europe back into the dark ages.
Therefore, the Alhambra is indeed more "beautiful" in my eyes.
The message of the Alhambra, or even more that of Toledo is one of enlightment, science and progress while the rest of Europe was still in the dark ages. Until the religious zeal that Gaudí promoted centuries later kicked Europe back into the dark ages.
Therefore, the Alhambra is indeed more "beautiful" in my eyes.
Aug 10th, 2013, 12:54 PM
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Kimhe, I am loving the great info in your posts! I read on another post your recommendation to join the guided tour of La Sagrada Familia. There is an English tour at 11h. The site you gave says to meet inside. Is there a timed entry ticket for the tour? Also, can we add the tower visit once we are inside?
Loved reading also that there will be great Flamenco at Tablao Cordobés. For Sept 2-6, can you tell which artists are performing cante, toque, baile? Must see at least 2 Flamenco shows!!
Mil gracias,
Mac again
Loved reading also that there will be great Flamenco at Tablao Cordobés. For Sept 2-6, can you tell which artists are performing cante, toque, baile? Must see at least 2 Flamenco shows!!
Mil gracias,
Mac again
Aug 10th, 2013, 05:12 PM
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As you say, all in the eye of the beholder but I wouldn't have listed Sagrada Familia anywhere near the most beautiful buildings. Still glad I saw it though. Good thing these lists are only someone's opinions - I'm not even sure they are very useful except to provoke debate and discussion.
Aug 11th, 2013, 04:19 AM
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Macaroni09,
<The site you gave says to meet inside. Is there a timed entry ticket for the tour? Also, can we add the tower visit once we are inside?>
Meet inside the entrance gate, they must mean. That's at least what we did, just beside the basílica entrance some 10-15 minutes before the tour started. Anyhow, it will be obvious to you where to meet once your there, signs and "Sagrada Familia-people" handing out headphones.
Don't think you can add the towers once inside, then I believe you have to do the basílica + towers tour with audio guide only.
When it comes to flamenco, 2013 is a very special year in Barcelona as you might know. 100 years since the greatest flamenco dancer in history Carmen Amaya (1913-1963) was born in the poor Somorrostro district down by the Barceloneta beach, and 50 years since she died. Barcelona celebrates her all of the year with many events. The "Any Carmen Amaya" was opened in May at Barcelona classic 7 Portes where she made her debut as a small girl in the early 20's together with her father. And through all of the year you'll find a Carmen Amaya-rose on all the tables at 7 Portes. About Carmen: http://www.tablaodecarmen.com/histor...rcelona/en/94/
The artists at Tablao Cordobés in September are not set yet, but the following perform here through all of July and August, and it's a good chance they'll keep on in September:
Cante
Antonio Villar: http://www.tablaocordobes.com/artistas/articulo/en/1/75
Juan Manzano "el Coco": http://www.tablaocordobes.com/artistas/articulo/en/1/82
Toque:
David and Israel Cerreduela:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NaH1L5DEOc
Baile:
Karime Amaya, the grand-niese of Carmen Amaya!!! Her career is just taking off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzBE8ZX9UE4
Brilliant El Junco: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENoCuTQYPs
And you can hope for Pastora Galván returning in September. Voted best female flamenco dancer 2010 by Spanish critics, and she has danced frequently at Tablao Cordobés the last year or so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2SBUcrJgeQ
But you should also check out Tablao de Carmen. Established in 1988 in tribute to Carmen Amaya on the premises where she made her great public debut at 16 in front of King Alfonso XIII during the opening of the 1929 Barcelona World Expo. All 2013 is a celebration of Carmen up here, and only top of the shelf artists perform here also.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractio...Catalonia.html
http://www.tablaodecarmen.com/en/
Artists in September at Tablao de Carmen:
Baile:
Fabulous Lucía Álvarez "La Piñona" (1985, Jimena de la Frontera, Cádiz) is guest artist from September 3 to 29. Some friends saw her at Tablao de Carmen earlier this year, and they were totally mesmerized. She has won several prestigious prizes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSlP-XTBvfE
http://www.lucia-alvarezflamenco.com/
Local supertalent El Yiyo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7uHAzl1snM
Artistic director Manuel Jimenez "Bartolo": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hxyQEZTvVY
María Moreno from Cádiz is guest artist from September 3 to 29: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZY40voB-oc
Toque:
Great El Perla from Sevilla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OdiwNeKj1A
Carlos López "Arenque": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6VUueY7s7I
Cante:
Local girl Miriam Vallejo has won several important prizes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2FSe7gtQWs
José Fernández "Yuse" and Juan Fernández "Juaneke", both from Barcelona: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o1WBGT96g8
<The site you gave says to meet inside. Is there a timed entry ticket for the tour? Also, can we add the tower visit once we are inside?>
Meet inside the entrance gate, they must mean. That's at least what we did, just beside the basílica entrance some 10-15 minutes before the tour started. Anyhow, it will be obvious to you where to meet once your there, signs and "Sagrada Familia-people" handing out headphones.
Don't think you can add the towers once inside, then I believe you have to do the basílica + towers tour with audio guide only.
When it comes to flamenco, 2013 is a very special year in Barcelona as you might know. 100 years since the greatest flamenco dancer in history Carmen Amaya (1913-1963) was born in the poor Somorrostro district down by the Barceloneta beach, and 50 years since she died. Barcelona celebrates her all of the year with many events. The "Any Carmen Amaya" was opened in May at Barcelona classic 7 Portes where she made her debut as a small girl in the early 20's together with her father. And through all of the year you'll find a Carmen Amaya-rose on all the tables at 7 Portes. About Carmen: http://www.tablaodecarmen.com/histor...rcelona/en/94/
The artists at Tablao Cordobés in September are not set yet, but the following perform here through all of July and August, and it's a good chance they'll keep on in September:
Cante
Antonio Villar: http://www.tablaocordobes.com/artistas/articulo/en/1/75
Juan Manzano "el Coco": http://www.tablaocordobes.com/artistas/articulo/en/1/82
Toque:
David and Israel Cerreduela:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NaH1L5DEOc
Baile:
Karime Amaya, the grand-niese of Carmen Amaya!!! Her career is just taking off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzBE8ZX9UE4
Brilliant El Junco: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENoCuTQYPs
And you can hope for Pastora Galván returning in September. Voted best female flamenco dancer 2010 by Spanish critics, and she has danced frequently at Tablao Cordobés the last year or so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2SBUcrJgeQ
But you should also check out Tablao de Carmen. Established in 1988 in tribute to Carmen Amaya on the premises where she made her great public debut at 16 in front of King Alfonso XIII during the opening of the 1929 Barcelona World Expo. All 2013 is a celebration of Carmen up here, and only top of the shelf artists perform here also.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractio...Catalonia.html
http://www.tablaodecarmen.com/en/
Artists in September at Tablao de Carmen:
Baile:
Fabulous Lucía Álvarez "La Piñona" (1985, Jimena de la Frontera, Cádiz) is guest artist from September 3 to 29. Some friends saw her at Tablao de Carmen earlier this year, and they were totally mesmerized. She has won several prestigious prizes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSlP-XTBvfE
http://www.lucia-alvarezflamenco.com/
Local supertalent El Yiyo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7uHAzl1snM
Artistic director Manuel Jimenez "Bartolo": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hxyQEZTvVY
María Moreno from Cádiz is guest artist from September 3 to 29: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZY40voB-oc
Toque:
Great El Perla from Sevilla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OdiwNeKj1A
Carlos López "Arenque": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6VUueY7s7I
Cante:
Local girl Miriam Vallejo has won several important prizes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2FSe7gtQWs
José Fernández "Yuse" and Juan Fernández "Juaneke", both from Barcelona: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o1WBGT96g8
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WOW!, Kimhe, you are a gem. Thank you so much for all of this great information. Pastora Galván would be incredible good fortune. I'll be watching the programs in the next 2 weeks. Now if I could just meet you there!!
