Great Coffee
Aug 6th, 2001, 07:28 AM
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I've never had bad coffee in Europe. <BR>Even in Ireland, a nation of tea drinkers, the "white coffee" was terrific! Easier to answer, "where's the worst coffee?" For me that would be right here in America. In so many places the coffee here is weak and tasteless. Other than starbucks and special coffeehouses, an ordinary coffee in an American coffee shop or diner is like dishwater.
Aug 6th, 2001, 08:04 AM
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Starbuck's coffee is garbage. They use below average beans and then BURN them, which explains the nasty bitter taste. <BR> <BR>Ess-I don't know where you've been hanging out, but typically diners have great coffee. Of course, you like Starbucks, so you obviously don't know good coffee. Believe it or not, Dunkin Donuts has really good coffee. But the best coffee I've ever had, US or Europe, is at Revolution, a coffee house in Herndon, Virginia. No other reason to go to Herndon. <BR> <BR>Coffee in Ireland hit and miss. Usually, you get instant, but when you do get brewed, it's usually pretty darn good.
Aug 6th, 2001, 08:30 AM
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The best coffee we've had in Brussels has been at Atelier de la Truffe, on the corner of Ave. Louise and rue Vleurgat. In general, we look for places that serve Illy brand coffee--it's one of the better brands in Europe. However, a few places have been advertising Illy and using inferior brands. <BR>In the U.S., La Colombe in Philly has great coffee. Several fine restaurants and hotels use their coffee, including the Four Seasons in Philly and also, I believe, Le Bernardin in NYC. <BR>FYI, Ann, I don't think it's necessary to insult someone just because they happen to like Starbucks. I drink Starbucks lattes when I'm in the states; I have no complaints, and yes, I DO know good coffee! OTOH, I have been disppointed several times by coffee in French cafes, although I've very fond of the coffee at Royal Mozart on Avenue Mozart in the 16th near the Jasmin metro stop. <BR>BTilke
Aug 6th, 2001, 08:58 AM
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Hey Ann! I didn't say I LIKED starbucks. I've never had their coffee, actually. But I thought they were supposed to be so great! Aren't they? I think you must be right about Dunkin' Donuts, though - I have a friend who can't make it through the day without his dunkin donuts coffee to go to drink while he's driving. I don't drink much coffee, but when I do want some I make it myself.
Aug 6th, 2001, 10:14 AM
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Ann & Ess, <BR>Since you mentioned Dunkin' Donuts coffee .... there are 2 Dunkin' Donuts in my town; 1 of them has much better coffee than the other. I am really hooked on their coffee! I've tried buying their coffee and making it at home, but something about it is just not the same .... <BR> <BR>(And Ann, I too HATE Starbucks
Aug 6th, 2001, 11:18 AM
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Ess, you don't have to order Starbuck's coffee black. I've asked for their mildest coffee, dumped sugar and lots of milk in it and, believe me, that bitterness still can't be disguised. <BR> <BR>In Europe, I didn't care for the little cups of mud they serve in Greece.
Aug 6th, 2001, 02:52 PM
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It also depends on the way cofee is prepared. It's either italian expresso style, brewed like in average cofee machines in US, almost-boiled on open flame, almost-boiled on sand (turkish). <BR> <BR>For various reasons Brazilian, Turkish, Arabic, Vieanna-style, and Italian cofees are great.
