Getting to the Kroller-Muller Museum? (Otterlo, Holland)
Jan 5th, 2007, 09:50 AM
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Getting to the Kroller-Muller Museum? (Otterlo, Holland)
I am confused about trying to get to the Kroller-Muller Museum via public transport. One source I read makes it sound like you can only get a bus to the entrance of the national park, then you have to ride a bike to the museum, which apparently is deep inside the park. [That would take a while. I haven't biked in 20 yrs.] Another source said there's a bus that takes you right to the museum. And my sources differ as to which city I would be taking the train to from Amsterdam (Arnhem or Apeldoorn?). The museum website is no help.
Anyone made this journey and have tips? It's a must-visit for me--I've gotta see the van Goghs!
Anyone made this journey and have tips? It's a must-visit for me--I've gotta see the van Goghs!
Jan 5th, 2007, 10:01 AM
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Yup - went recently. Asked train station in Amsterdam which station was best and they said take the train to Ede-Wageningen and then by bus to the museum itself. I did so. Buses wait outside the Ede-Wageningen station and go thru the park entrance to within a few blocks on the museum entrance.
To leave the museum i took the bus to Arnhem and for this you have to change buses once...at least i had to...go to Arnhem train station.
Ede-Wageningen is the fastest cheapest shortest route. Buy a Daar retour...day return ticket there and back for some savings over two one ways. For the bus you can use the Nationale Strippenkaart's you buy and use on trams in Amsterdam - good on most buses anywhere in country and any city transit system - or buy one at the Ede-W station before getting on the bus - then have driver stamp it, using the correct number of strips.
I enjoyed the museum a lot and the large statue park that surrounds it in a lovely natural setting. I had a National Museum Card but was disappointed that this museum did not accept it, surprisingly since it is i believe affiliated with Amsterdam's Van Gogh Museum which does.
Trains and buses go very frequently - at least hourly.
To leave the museum i took the bus to Arnhem and for this you have to change buses once...at least i had to...go to Arnhem train station.
Ede-Wageningen is the fastest cheapest shortest route. Buy a Daar retour...day return ticket there and back for some savings over two one ways. For the bus you can use the Nationale Strippenkaart's you buy and use on trams in Amsterdam - good on most buses anywhere in country and any city transit system - or buy one at the Ede-W station before getting on the bus - then have driver stamp it, using the correct number of strips.
I enjoyed the museum a lot and the large statue park that surrounds it in a lovely natural setting. I had a National Museum Card but was disappointed that this museum did not accept it, surprisingly since it is i believe affiliated with Amsterdam's Van Gogh Museum which does.
Trains and buses go very frequently - at least hourly.
Jan 5th, 2007, 10:03 AM
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Welcome at the Kroller-Muller Museumwelcome to the Kroller-Muller Museum. A magnificent amalgamation of art, architecture and nature. Amidst unspoilt natural surroundings, ...
www.kmm.nl/?lang=en
and for train schedules: www.ns.nl
www.kmm.nl/?lang=en
and for train schedules: www.ns.nl
Jan 5th, 2007, 10:05 AM
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and one further thought - ask at the Amsterdam train station if they have a combo train, bus and museum entry ticket.
About those bikes - yes there are free bikes at the park entrance in case you want to get off the bus there and ride the several miles to the museum.
The Hooge Veluwe National Park the museum is in is an expanse of sand and has a rather wild look - lots of pine trees, etc. An old sand dune i guess.
About those bikes - yes there are free bikes at the park entrance in case you want to get off the bus there and ride the several miles to the museum.
The Hooge Veluwe National Park the museum is in is an expanse of sand and has a rather wild look - lots of pine trees, etc. An old sand dune i guess.
Jan 5th, 2007, 10:19 AM
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Thanks for the info, PalenqueBob!! Looks like the museum changed their website in the last couple of weeks, which is great. The previous version only had a phone number to call to find out about transportation.
About how long was the journey from Amsterdam to the museum, all total?
About how long was the journey from Amsterdam to the museum, all total?
Jan 23rd, 2007, 05:50 AM
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I only saw this thread just now. Note that it is not a 'Daar' but Dag (means Day) retour that you should buy. Depending on the season and if you are interested in some walking in the forest there are some nice hotels and restaurants in the area. But of course just to visit the museum is already worthwile.
Jan 27th, 2007, 01:18 PM
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FYI, the Hooge Veluwe National Park in which the museum is located is the nation's largest park -- which says a lot for tiny Holland. The name means something like "High Heather", and roaming around the rest of the park on foot or by bicycle is a real delight.
The Park's site is:
http://tinyurl.com/29guh6
The Park's site is:
http://tinyurl.com/29guh6
Jan 27th, 2007, 01:40 PM
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I forgot to say that the park is over 13,000 acres in size, which is why it is so impressive for the Netherlands.
Sorry to jump on to this post again, but the Hooge Veluwe Park is one of those things that has stuck in my memory, ever since I visited a number of years ago. the sculpture garden, largest in Europe, combined with the wild, windswept, setting, is really stunning. The hunting lodge itself is worth the visit, IMO.
The Kroller-Muller was just wonderful. I recall going into one room that contained nothing but Vincent's paintings of potatoes. You could almost feel the dust, dirt, and dispair coming off of those brown sacks and piles of spuds. If you only saw those Van Gogh "potato period" paintings, you would conclude, "This is one depressed, sick, Dude".
Anyway, I think this is one site that you should not miss in Holland if you want to see something other than crowded cities.
Sorry to jump on to this post again, but the Hooge Veluwe Park is one of those things that has stuck in my memory, ever since I visited a number of years ago. the sculpture garden, largest in Europe, combined with the wild, windswept, setting, is really stunning. The hunting lodge itself is worth the visit, IMO.
The Kroller-Muller was just wonderful. I recall going into one room that contained nothing but Vincent's paintings of potatoes. You could almost feel the dust, dirt, and dispair coming off of those brown sacks and piles of spuds. If you only saw those Van Gogh "potato period" paintings, you would conclude, "This is one depressed, sick, Dude".
Anyway, I think this is one site that you should not miss in Holland if you want to see something other than crowded cities.
Jan 27th, 2007, 01:47 PM
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Very good thread. This continues to be on "my list" for a visit whilst in Amsterdam. One of these days I will have enough time to spend there to justify a "day trip."
This museum and sculptures sound wonderful. Not counting being in the midst of a National Park.
This museum and sculptures sound wonderful. Not counting being in the midst of a National Park.
May 10th, 2007, 03:20 PM
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Want to share a discovery with others who plan to go here:
website www.9292ov.nl allows you to plug in Amsterdam Centraal as your start point (or wherever), choose Kroller Muller Museum in Otterlo as end point, your approximate departure time, then gives you not just the train info (which is all you get on ns.nl) but also the important bus info for getting from Ede-Wageningen to the museum (via Otterlo itself). Can also look up the returns. Website is in Dutch only but common sense will help you figure it out (I did). The buses to and from the museum do not run frequently so this handy little website looks like it will save a lot of waiting around.
website www.9292ov.nl allows you to plug in Amsterdam Centraal as your start point (or wherever), choose Kroller Muller Museum in Otterlo as end point, your approximate departure time, then gives you not just the train info (which is all you get on ns.nl) but also the important bus info for getting from Ede-Wageningen to the museum (via Otterlo itself). Can also look up the returns. Website is in Dutch only but common sense will help you figure it out (I did). The buses to and from the museum do not run frequently so this handy little website looks like it will save a lot of waiting around.
May 11th, 2007, 08:35 AM
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Why not consider the Veluwe (I am there almost every summer for a short week) for a few days instead of a day trip to the musem only, Biking on the Veluwe is just so easy (remember the country is flat!) you don't need an athletes condition at all. What about the (medium-upscale) hotel het Roode Koper,
with a beautiful garden small pool and bikes and lovely restaurant, it is in Hoenderloo very near the museum.
Just a suggestion!www.roodekoper.nl
bilingual site.
with a beautiful garden small pool and bikes and lovely restaurant, it is in Hoenderloo very near the museum.
Just a suggestion!www.roodekoper.nl
bilingual site.
May 15th, 2007, 05:48 AM
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This museum is very poorly served by public transport. I think it would be a really long and utterly exhausting day to try and get there and back from Amsterdam. There is so much to see with the park and museum, that you might consider spending the night near by. You might also want to think about hiring a car to avoid those really bad bus connections. We were staying in Arnhem when we visited, and even though I hate driving, the connections to and from Kroller-Muller were so bad that we gave up and got a very good rate at the Hertz counter near the Arnhem train station. I was glad we had the car when we all suffered melt down in the park around 4:30, and were able to be back in our hotel by 5:15.
May 15th, 2007, 06:46 AM
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I would agree that transport is not that easy. We did manage to do this as a day trip from Amsterdam, but for the effort (approx 3 hours each way), I didn't feel it was worth it. My sister, a huge Van Gogh fan, did.
We never found the bus at the Ede-Wageningen station that went right to the doors of the museum. We were instructed to take a bus to Otterlo, then when we found what would have been the stop for the bus to the museum, we had almost an hour wait for the next one, so we walked about 20 minutes to the gates of the park, grabbed the bikes and rode the 10-15 to the museum. Then to have to do the whole thing in reverse...ugh.
We never found the bus at the Ede-Wageningen station that went right to the doors of the museum. We were instructed to take a bus to Otterlo, then when we found what would have been the stop for the bus to the museum, we had almost an hour wait for the next one, so we walked about 20 minutes to the gates of the park, grabbed the bikes and rode the 10-15 to the museum. Then to have to do the whole thing in reverse...ugh.
May 15th, 2007, 06:51 AM
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Well i went on a Sunday and had no problem getting a bus to the museum itself - right outside the Ede-W station. and no problem busing to Arnhem on way back via a change in Otterlo. But i may have been lucky so check schedules.
