Getting around Amsterdam: bike v. tram

Jun 23rd, 2014, 10:52 AM
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"Trams go right from the RijksmuseumI believe to the Troppenmuseum "

No not really. Tropenmuseum is served by the number 9 tram, Rijksmuseum is 2 and 5. To go from Rijks to Tropenmuseum (one p), you can change at Spui, but you have to walk from one end of Spui where 2 and 5 stop, to Rokin to make the change.

Even if you're an experienced cyclist: don't risk it.
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Jun 23rd, 2014, 10:16 PM
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Just in case OP (and anyone else interested) hasn't already seen the public transport map:
http://en.gvb.nl/reisinformatie/plat...nnetkaart.aspx
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Jun 24th, 2014, 05:48 AM
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"Trams go right from the RijksmuseumI believe to the Troppenmuseum "

I think you can just walz thru Museumplein and catch the # 9 tram at the southern end of it - a very short pleasant stroll.
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Jun 25th, 2014, 08:18 PM
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PhillyFan . . . the Paris night bike ride is so much fun! I've done it twice!
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Jun 25th, 2014, 09:08 PM
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Because of what we observed in Amsterdam, I contacted my City Councilman and made some suggestions. There are more accidents between bikes and pedestrians and bikes and cars in our City. The problem is that if a pedestrian is hurt, he/she must pay for his/her medical bills and any lost wages and there is no liability to the biker. There should be some licensing procedure and property/liability insurance requirement for bikers before the problem becomes even worse.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 03:48 AM
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IMD - I f a biker hurts someone or anyone hurts someone thru their negligence they are liable for their actions - whether on a bike or in a store or walking into someone, etc. that's just part of our common law. You are liable for your actions regardless of the situation - of course the injured party has to sue - I have umbrella coverage for any liabilities I have anywhere in the U.S. - don't you?

Requiring licensing/insurance for bikers would:

1`- decrease the number of bikes legally on the streets and probably overall numbers - not good

2- require even childs' bikes to be so insured?

I just can't believe that your state/city does not make anyone who cuases injury not liable for those damages.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 06:00 AM
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Palenq. Now, you must go through the court system to get your money and hope the biker has money. Of course, that costs the injured party money and there is no guarantee of how it will be resolved. That is if the biker stops and he gives his correct name.

With car insurance there is well established case law and adjusters that help avoid the courts.

There is little recourse when someone gets injured. I live in NYC, I would say 45% don;t know the laws, 45% don't care about the laws and 10% actually adhere to the laws.

This would clog up the courts even further who must determine who, what, where, contributory and comparative, etc.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 06:47 AM
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"My husband might rent a bike while I'm at the Rijks; he's not into art museums like I am. Anything nearby there he occupy himself with for a few hours? (that's not an art museum)."

I started laughing at myself because the first thing that came to my mind after reading your question, PhillyFan, was, "Well, the Red Light District is just a spit from the Rijks."
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Jun 26th, 2014, 07:15 AM
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We accidentally walked into the Red Light district during the day which wasn't much of a district at all. I would imagine more is going on at night.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 07:34 AM
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With car insurance there is well established case law and adjusters that help avoid the courts.>

but the significant cost of insurance would no doubt results in a reduction of bike traffic - is that good?

Will 8-year-olds' bikes have to be insured?

Good idea but pie in the sky IMO in reality - we need to encourage bike travel not hinder it.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 07:39 AM
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Yes, the parents of children would need insurance. Just the way parents are responsible for the actions of minors.

BTW, in Amsterdam a child of 12 must pass a bicycle test before he can ride to school.

If bikers are to take over the world they need to be responsible and like many humans, most need responsibility imposed on them. There is a significant number of bikers in our City who think they are elevated life forms that deserve beatification not rules.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 07:44 AM
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Would you also make bike helmets mandatory for all? And bicycle safety inspections - ah big brother looking after us.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 07:49 AM
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We are so used to seeing at least children in bike helmets here. I was amazed to see mothers biking with babies in the front basket or very small children towed behind the bike without helmets....and pedaling at breakneck speed!
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Jun 26th, 2014, 07:51 AM
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No Dutch bikers IME wear helmets or would be caught dead doing so - and in a city like Amsterdam where there are so so many bike accidents I understand.

Nor do the Dutch I believe have to have insurance on their bikes.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 07:59 AM
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Yes the Dutch do not wear helmets and are not obligated to carry insurance.

They also have 55,000 bikes stolen each year and the City is now designed with bikers in mind.
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Jun 26th, 2014, 08:00 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=amst...=1600&bih=1075

See how popular biking is in Amsterdam!
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Jun 26th, 2014, 08:32 AM
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It is extremely popular and some have a little tub they attach to the front of bikes for wheeling around little children. Yeah, that will work in NYC, especially in the entitled districts of Park Slope and Tribeca, the home of "It's your fault. What happened?"
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Jun 26th, 2014, 10:08 AM
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Should skateboarders have to have insurance - online skaters? Where does it end? Pedestrians who may accidentally bump someone?
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Jun 26th, 2014, 10:50 AM
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Or pedestrians who walk out into the path of cyclists without looking? (Yes, it's happened to me more than once).
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Jun 26th, 2014, 10:58 AM
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yes pedestrians are often hurt and often their fault - anywhere so I guess IMD would require proof of insurance before anyone sets foot outside.

In Amsterdam tourists notoriously wander into the bike lanes - naively so but with possible devastating results!
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