dlongan

Fussgaenger, As far as staying in Mainz one night. Instead of moving again and needing to book a room, how about just train out of Mosel for Fra? About 3-4 hours? There is a decent flight that leaves at 13:40

I agree that Nurnberg has plenty of Nazi history and can skip Dachau. I realize it's going to be quite sickening, but if they had to endure it the least I can do is honor their memory by visiting some the history.

Ok, I love ya'lls itineraries. Just need to decide Berlin or Bavaria. I have a funny feeling I'll be back tho!

Fussgaenger

Sure, if you have a late pm flight you can reach FRA from Cochem. Leave Cochem 8:19, arrive FRA 10:34 on most days. One change of train in Koblenz.

dlongan

palenq. good point about dachau.

dlongan

another thing to consider is which of these days fall on a Sunday. Day 5 is a Sunday which should work out as a long train day as well as day 12.

Fussgaenger

The only thing you can't do on Sundays in Germany is retail shopping. Mondays are typically when museums and tourist sights are closed, if they close at all.

Fussgaenger

If you will be in Cochem between June 3 and 7, be sure to secure a room promptly. That is "Mosel Wine Week" and there will be lots of visitors. Music, dance, fireworks on Friday night at 10:30, and lots of wine and food stands.

dlongan

Whoa, that could throw a wrench in things! Im still trying to decide on flights. Better look into that.

dlongan

so any suggestions?

Fussgaenger

The Freilandmuseum in Bad Windsheim is an amazing and startling journey through time. A must-see IMO.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractio...conia_Fra.html

http://www.stripes.com/military-life...useum-1.102354

http://freilandmuseum.de/startseite/information-en.html

The Wirtshaus am Kommunbrauhaus on museum grounds is an operating pub-restaurant serving traditional regional food and beer brewed on site; it is one of several eateries there. It was built in 1518 and (like the rest of the buildings at this museum) was moved to the site from another town in Bavaria:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...museum_007.JPG

Fussgaenger

Cochem accommodations: I have no idea of your needs. I sent my nephew to the Zum Fröhlichen Weinberg. It's uphill from and near the market square with budget rooms. Figure around €50 with breakfast buffet included. A healthy walk from the station but doable. He loved it. Bavaria Ben likes it too:

http://www.bensbauernhof.com/froehli...chemmosel.html

Book via email:
http://www.zum-froehlichen-weinberg.de/kontakt.html

Room (Zimmer) photos:
http://www.zum-froehlichen-weinberg.de/zimmer.html

You can try some wine in their wine room in the afternoons.

Be sure to ask about cancellation policies at any place you inquire about prior to booking. Do not assume anything you book is cancellable. German law obligates you to pay for reservations you make whether you pay a deposit or not - UNLESS the owners offer a different policy.

dugi_otok

Hi dlongan

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I will answer your question, but I like where Fussgaenger is taking you. When taking the train from Berlin to Rhine/Mosel you can change trains in either Cologne (Koln) or Frankfurt. For you I chose Cologne.It is just a stop over. The Munster is worth seeing, one of the most famous religious buildings in the world.Sit in an outdoor cafe and have their famous Kolsch beer.You can do this in a couple of hours. You need not stay the night.You could just continue to Cochem on the same day.

dlongan

I think I'm set on landing in Munich and out of Frankfurt. I'll save Berlin for next year. Making flight arrangements now. Kind of excited about being in Cochem during a festival. There is always a festival in San Antonio too!
As far as lodging, it would be great to be walking distance from train, but more important to be walking distance from the attractions. Also, we are not fans of budget lodging. If you're going that far, might as well stay somewhere comfy. Not that the budget way isn't.
I'll have to look at local maps once I get the flight squared away.

Fussgaenger

A good number of the places that are close in are booked for your dates. The Villa Vinum - near the station and the river and not far from the old town - shows availability, and it gets very high marks.

http://www.villa-vinum-cochem.de/

The Alte Thorschenke is also well located: http://www.thorschenke.de/en/index.htm

Check the Lohspeicher too, right on Market Square. Shows as available at booking.com.


Because the station and the old town are both on the same side of the river, I'd find something on that side if at all possible, like the ones above.

Fussgaenger

The Villa Tummelchen is worth a check too.
http://www.moselpension.de/english/

dugi_otok

Building on the Fussgaenger itinerary.

Day 1- Fly from USA into Munich
Day 2- Arrive Garmisch-P. (< 2.5 train hours) for 3 nights
Day 3- Mittenwald + GP
Day 4- GP
Day 5- Train to Munich station, store bags. Dachau, then back. PM train to Nuremberg (maybe 5 train hours this day) for 4 nights

I do not know what your accommodation requirements are. We recently stayed in GP here:
https://www.hoteledelweiss.de/language/en
Really nice. Near the train station,TI,a park with nightly concerts, walking distance to the pedestrian zone and many restaurants. Great breakfast.Nice rooms,public areas. I highly recommend the family owned Hotel Edelweiss.

You have the arrival day and two full days and a lot to choose from for your stay in GP. One day you might see Schloss Linderhof, Oberammergau, and Kloster Ettal. There are some nice walks around GP,Partnach Gorge, etc. You can also go to the top of Germany's highest mountain-the Zugspitze $$$. Also the pretty mountain resort of Mittenwald referred to as a "living picturebook".Karwendelbahn cable car in Mittenwald. On the main street in Mittenwald there is a konditorei with pastries to die for. Just sit outside eating pastries and drinking coffee and watch the world go by. You can do all this using bus transportation, hiring a personal guide, or renting a car. The alps and alpine villages are a good introduction to your vacation!

dlongan

flights are booked! Into Munich, Out of Frankfurt. Now the planning begins!

dlongan

Due to flights etc. we have 18 days. Flying out of Frankfurt at 1:00 . Where to add . I think co hem looks awesome and relaxing with the wine festival, bike rides, etc.

Fussgaenger

If you are adding 2 nights to the 16-day itinerary I most recently suggested (which IMO is already stretching you very thin because of your numerous travel goals) I would stick 1 of the 2 extra days where your time is already very tight - in G-P (for a total of 4 there.)

On your first day in G-P you're dealing with jet lag, and doing anything is questionable. You have only 2 more days there and you have multiple day trips in mind.

Either Boppard or Cochem should get the other extra day. Your time in Boppard and on the Rhine is pretty short. Do make sure you plan to spend nearly all of Day 12 there before heading to Cochem that night. Then you can add one more night to Cochem.

twoflower

This thread is already so long, I hesitate to think I can add to all that must have been said. (Far too much to read all of it)! So I'll just tell you what we did and see if you find it any help. First, the Rhine and Moselle are both rivers that draw on the emotions - but different ones. They're both worth your time. Yes, Cochem is a little far up the Moselle to be a good base for both. One time we stayed at Bacharach, and it was perfect. Another time we stayed at Rudesheim, and it too worked by using the Lorch car ferry to cross the Rhein north of Rudesheim and south of Bacharach.

Continuing to Munich (by car), another river - the Neckar - can be taken in between Heidelberg and Rothenburg. That's a moody river too, but a different mood again from the Rhine or Moselle. Heidelberg is delightful. Rothenburg is over-touristed by day, but becomes quite magical by late afternoon when the tourist buses have gone.

Other places we've stayed, further down, are Donauworth and Landsberg am Lecht. Also around the Ammersee: Herrsching or Andechs, if you fancy a relaxing lakeside break.

dlongan

Thank you two flower. You're correct in that this is a long post. They have been so helpful to me and I hope to others after me.
Fuss , that is what I was thinking. There are so many day trips before Mosel, I tht it would be a great place to relax and bicycle a few days. Also the wine festival is supposedly going to be there as well.