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Old Jun 7th, 2006, 12:03 PM
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German speakers--is this an idiom?

I asked a German tourist bureau if the proprietors of an establishment speak English. This was my response: "They speak english with tooth and nail."

Is this an idiom that doesn't make sense in the translation? I don't get it at all. Does it mean they do or do not speak English? thanks.
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Old Jun 7th, 2006, 12:11 PM
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This doesn't make sense to me. In German, literally translated, it would be "mit Zahn und Nagel" but I have never heard that.

I am assuming they speak English very well. Just a feeling that it could have this meaning.

My advice is to ask again.
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Doesn't sound German to me (but I'm not a native speaker). I would guess that it is the American idiom being a bit mis-used...as in "fighting tooth and nail." If that's the case, I'm guessing the proprietors will only speak English if they absolutely have to.
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I too think it's a misuse of the English idiom, but in my opinion I think the tourist bureau meant they speak it "enthusiastically, with everything they've got". As "fighting tooth and nail" means throwing yourself into it whole-heartedly. Just a guess. Can you ask the bureau again what they mean?
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Old Jun 7th, 2006, 02:19 PM
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Prepositions are always a problem with German speakers trying to do English. Most probably the tourist office wanted to say "by tooth and nail," meaning "just barely."
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Old Jun 8th, 2006, 03:53 AM
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Hi J,

Your respondent at the tourist bureau was, I think, misusing an English idiom.

I believe that the meaning was "yes".

See http://www.goenglish.com/ToothAndNail.asp


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Old Jun 8th, 2006, 04:28 AM
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I took your advice and asked what this meant. Here's the answer.

They speak a little bit english. In german we say "mit Händen und Füßen".
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With "hands and feet" ????..that's kind of an anatomical "distance" from "tooth and nail" isn't it (LOL)???
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"with hands and feet" - I believe it means, "with the help of a lot of gestural/body language".
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Old Jun 8th, 2006, 04:42 AM
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Thanks, Lobo, for the clarification.
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Old Jun 8th, 2006, 04:45 AM
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no need to thank. I posted before have seen you contribution.
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Old Jun 8th, 2006, 05:04 AM
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I think the Emglish idiom "tooth and nail" - - meaning to claw one's way through a situation, struggling with each inch of the way (as in "fighting tooth and nail&quot conveys pretty well the issue of having difficulty (communicating in a language which one does not know well).

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I think that Rex is right: they do many efforts to speak English, and this is still difficult for them.
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Old Jun 8th, 2006, 08:48 AM
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Too mbad I cam't tympe very mweel in <b><i>Emglish</i></b>.
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