French anti-semitism in WW II
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French anti-semitism in WW II
There are sporadic outbreaks of anti-Semitism in France. In WW II
France's highest court has recognised the state's "responsibility" for the deportation of Jews in World War II.
The Council of State said the state had permitted or facilitated deportations that led to anti-Semitic persecution without being coerced by the occupiers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7893127.stm
France's highest court has recognised the state's "responsibility" for the deportation of Jews in World War II.
The Council of State said the state had permitted or facilitated deportations that led to anti-Semitic persecution without being coerced by the occupiers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7893127.stm
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I think that everyone knows in WWII a good part of France was officially under German military control, and the rest was the Vichy "republic" allowed to exist because it followed German mandates.
During WWII there were antisemites all over europe - France was not alone. (But you forgot to mention the government in exile in London, the fact that the French admiralty scuttled the entire fleet in Toulon harbor so the nazis couldn't get their hands on the fleet, and that there were many thousands of French resistance fighters who fought the Nazis and helped Allied troops escape).
And why bring up ancient history at this point?
(As for antisemitism, how much do you think there was in the US then?)
During WWII there were antisemites all over europe - France was not alone. (But you forgot to mention the government in exile in London, the fact that the French admiralty scuttled the entire fleet in Toulon harbor so the nazis couldn't get their hands on the fleet, and that there were many thousands of French resistance fighters who fought the Nazis and helped Allied troops escape).
And why bring up ancient history at this point?
(As for antisemitism, how much do you think there was in the US then?)
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To get a feel for the type of anti semitism present in France during WWII and some of the heroes, try to get a hold of the movie "Au Revoir les Enfants" a great movie. Especially watch for the restaurant scene which might help explain to you just what was going on.
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Specifically, or at least on a nomimal level, this forum was devised and is intended for the futherance of travel tips etc...If you wish to bring up the question of anti-semitism in France..either during WWII or in the 21st century, efforts should be directed to establishing such forums etc in the proper venue...not a Fodors travel page....
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JSmith and others, not sure if this is the right place to discuss anti-Semitism in France during WW II, but for those who are interested in the subject may I suggest a great book:
BAD FAITH A Forgotten History of Family, Fatherland, and Vichy France Carmen Cahill
BAD FAITH A Forgotten History of Family, Fatherland, and Vichy France Carmen Cahill
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I don't find this inappropriate or irrelevant. It's news and part of what makes a country, in the past, now and in the future. As a traveler--and a lover of France--I am very interested in such things.
Thanks, I hadn't seen this in the paper here at home.
Thanks, I hadn't seen this in the paper here at home.

