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MIACHARLIE Nov 15th, 2022 08:14 PM

France + Italy October 2022
 
After discussing my then-upcoming plans to visit Europe with a few in this forum, I promised to post a trip report when it was completed. So here it is, good, bad and ridiculous.

Week 1
08/10 - 09/10
24 hour flight from Brisbane, Australia to Paris, France with a 3 hour layover stop in Singapore. Singapore airlines is nice to fly with. Pretty uniforms, provided earphones, blankets and pillows, good airplane food, unlimited free drinks, good selection of entertainment. Sidenote: As a larger girl I only had to get a seat belt extender once during the whole trip, which makes me wonder why the seat belts aren't standard sizes, but that's neither here nor there.
We made our way to Hotel Angleterre in Montmarte by about midday on 09/10, and after a nap, went out for dinner. It turned out that we had arrived on the last day of some kind of festival, so Sacre Coeur was packed. We ended up having pizza and wine at one of the restaurants and as another side note, one of my friends have warned me that the wine in restaurants wasn't that good, and she was right, at least with the house wine.

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10/10 - 11/10 My dad found a detailed walking tour of Montmartre and we decided to spilt it up into two days, as we didn't want to be in a rush.
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Some of my favorite spots from this walk were the Wall of Love, Cafe Des Deux Moulins (from Amelie- delicious creme brulee) and the Museum of Montmarte, which overlooked a beautiful garden that we weren't allowed to enter. Our first stop of the day wasn't on the list, but we had to go through it to get to the real first stop- Parc Monceau, which was absolutely beautiful and we spent a good deal of time there before actually getting on with the tour.
This was also the day I discovered the Aperol Spritz and I was never the same again. We intended to eat lunch at Pink Mumma but unfortunately it was packed so we ate at PNY Burger instead, which was right across the street.
I would return to Montmarte, hills and all.
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12/10
Day trip out to Giverny and Versailles.
Monet's House and gardens and the tiny village were quite charming. His gardens in particular were deigned quite beautifully and have been kept in their original state. We enjoyed drinks and sandwiches at the bakery closest to the church (can't remember it's name) and met a group of American tourists and had a great chat. It's nice to exchange stories with people from around the world.
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​​​​​Versailles was quite interesting to visit, and we found that the palace had been organized in a way that would take us throughout history as a tour guide led us around and told us the stories of French kings and queens. It is important to note that many original pieces were missing from the rooms and things had been moved around. Still, it was an ornate and beautiful place. There were also a great amount of tourists even though October is supposed to be off-season. I suppose everyone else had the same idea as us.
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13/10
The next day we took a walk and visited more landmarks. First though, my dad was getting sick of the basic European breakfast and wanted something more substantial than the pastry/coffee/juice combo (this coming from a man on a diet who never usually eats breakfast, go figure) so we went looking for that and ended up in Marais, one of the trendy suburbs according to some. Happy with what we got in one of the cafes, we got on a train and ended up ticking off a few spots that I've been wanting to see for a long time: Victor Hugo's house, Opera Garnier, Notre Dame (still closed to the public, much to my disappointment), the Eiffel Tower (which we didn't go up as it was expensive and also raining by this point), a walk in the Jardin du Luxembourg, and finishing off in the Latin Quarter. It was here that we found my favorite dinner of the whole trip, in La Petit Hostellerie. It was a three course meal for 10€, and I got to try the two french dishes I'd been wanting for a while- French Onion Soup and Beef Bourguignon (thanks, Julie and Julia). Both were absolutely delicious, and we actually returned here for the same on our last day in Paris, three weeks later.
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14/10
Rest day. We did some laundry, wandered around Montmarte a little, bought a few souvanirs, and packed our bags for the trip south we were about to take. For dinner we ate at one of the little Lebanese restaurants around our area, and had an early night, as our train was leaving early the next morning.

(To be continued.)

rhon Nov 15th, 2022 10:39 PM

Great report Miacharlie. I am pleased to read that you achieved your dream. Looking forward to reading more.

lavandula Nov 15th, 2022 10:46 PM

Love your photos Miacharlie, I am very inspired by your report!!

Lavandula

Adelaidean Nov 15th, 2022 11:37 PM

Nice start to your trip. Sounds like you had fun and your planning worked out.

Sassafrass Nov 16th, 2022 03:38 AM

Enjoying your report a lot, especially mentioning what you ate and where. Your pictures are lovely, especially that garden! Looks as if it was a wonderful trip! What a memory to share with your Dad.
Looking forward to more and thank you for taking time to write this.

bilboburgler Nov 16th, 2022 04:40 AM

In France you get a French breakfast, not a European one ;-)

TDudette Nov 16th, 2022 04:44 AM

Sign me on, MIACHARLIE!

KarenWoo Nov 16th, 2022 04:55 AM

Enjoying your report and photos! We didn't spend a lot of time in Montmarte so we didn't visit Parc Monceau! It looks beautiful!

twk Nov 16th, 2022 06:15 AM

Good start!

kerouac Nov 16th, 2022 07:05 AM

Your photos are quite good.

Although you carressed Dalida's breasts, do you know who she was? (YouTube is your friend.)

MIACHARLIE Nov 16th, 2022 09:59 PM

Week 2
15/10
This was a rather stressful day, and it was entirely our fault. Prebooking a train ticket weeks if not months in advance means nothing when you're late and miss said train. Even though we got up early, dad didn't take my advice and finished packing that morning instead of the night before, and I am not a fast walker, especially before breakfast, so we ended up missing our train. We had to buy new tickets because for some reason there wasn't the same route going again, and we'd have to change trains instead of coasting all the way down on one.
All this is to say we were very tired and frustrated by the time we got to Annecy that day, where we picked up a hire car, and after a wander around the old town and exploring the ancient prison on the island, we got on our way to Chamonix.
Let me tell you, I could not relax the entire hour and a half while my dad drove on roads he wasn't familiar with, using a GPS system neither of us could follow very well, and needed to be reminded to stay away from curbs. We were not used to driving on the right side of the road. But eventually we arrived in Chamonix relatively unscathed. The trip there was beautiful when we could relax enough to get our eyes of the road, driving through mountains capped with snow and feeling the temperature drop down to pleasant shivers.
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16/10
We stayed at the aptly-named Hotel Chamonix, which was cozy enough, although they didn't provide any toiletries like all the other hotels did. But that was fine. The town was charming, nestled between snowy mountains, and the breakfast provided was very good, hosted by the hotel opposite us.
My dad had been here twice before, once with mum and once with my other sisters. The first time, a blizzard ruined his plans to go up Mont Blanc. The second time, he had a freshly broken leg and couldn't enjoy himself. Third time's the charm- we took the cable car up the mountain, and this time there were clear skies and we were able-bodied enough to enjoy the breathtaking views, as well as a rocky walk across the mountain to find a pretty blue lake.
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​​​​17/10
After another night in town, we reluctantly said our goodbyes, slightly annoyed that some of the attractions were closed. I guess we have an excuse to return someday, but it might have to be in peak season so that we can see everything.
We drove south, heading for Avignon. The weather grew warmer, and dad spent the drive trying to distract me from the stress of being on the road with him by explaining the Tour De France to me. This is the only sport he regularly watches, so he knows a good deal about it. It's actually quite interesting.
We were only spending one night in Avignon, so when we arrived, we quickly checked into our Ibis hotel on the outskirts of the city walls, and went for a walk inside them. It was interesting to find that the modern world has touched even the ancient inner city, passing popular American stores inside crumbling stone buildings. This was where several popes fled to from Rome when Christianity was having a difficult time, and their influence shines through in the Palais de Papes and the Basilique Saint Pierre. We picked up some sandwiches and beers from one of the supermarkets and went to sit by the river on the other side of the city, enjoying the evening, before returning through the Jardin Des Doms and winding through the ancient streets back to the hotel.
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18/10
The next day we travelled even further south, stopping off at two small towns on our way to the city of Nice.
Fontaine de Vaucluse sits on a natural spring that flows through the town and is a favorite of the ducks in the area. It's peaceful and quiet, with restaurants lining the river and a short hike through the forest to the source of the spring, which was practically empty at that time of year. Dad and another man both jumped the fence at the end to go and explore, and the lady waiting with me shared a long-suffering glance with me as we waited. She only spoke French, but even if I didn't understand the word for 'boys', I would know exactly what she was saying when she lamented their flaunting the rules.

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After a relaxing break, we headed back to the car and continued on to Roussillon, a town that sits in the heart of one of the biggest ochre deposits in the world, and is famous for its red cliffs and ochre quarries. It was a very cute little town, but as small as it is, I was surprised to find how touristy it could be. We wandered from one end to the other and back, taking in the vivid colours and views over the old quarries.

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Once we had our fill of charming and quirky villages, we headed to Nice. This ended up being a stressful part of the drive, as our GPS wasn't clear enough about where we were supposed to go and we ended up in Cannes while I called the car hire office and told them we would be late for drop off. Thankfully they were happy for us to come in the morning, so that just left getting from Cannes to Nice and then finding parking near our hotel, which wasn't easy. Eventually we checked into Hotel Trocadero and that was the end of the stress. For now, at least.

(To be continued)

Adelaidean Nov 16th, 2022 10:45 PM

So lucky to have that perfect day in the mountains! Lovely photos.
I think you’re a younger demographic than a lot of us ‘oldies’ Mia, and I appreciate you reporting back and I totally get the driving stress - I’d not survive the anxiety of driving other side of the road myself.
Too bad about that train ride, but we’ve all done something like that.

millie2112 Nov 16th, 2022 11:29 PM

what a wonderful report.. love it.. Pics are terrific. I love Aperol Spritz too... best drink

KayF Nov 17th, 2022 12:19 AM

Really enjoying reading this, thanks for sharing. Your photos are great - love the colours of the narrow street in Roussillon.

Kay (another Brisbanite)

rhon Nov 17th, 2022 11:03 AM

It can be a bit stressful at first when you start driving on the opposite side. I do not drive but my husband adjusts fairly quickly. He is gearing up again for next year.
Lovely photos and great memories you made even if there were some hiccups.
Have a great day from Toowoomba.

lavandula Nov 17th, 2022 12:43 PM

Looks like you were lucky with the weather, too. I also dislike driving in Europe. If I travel without my husband I don't drive, I much prefer the train, but there are obviously some destinations where you need the car. You did well driving with a dodgy GPS. Maps are not entirely a thing of the past, they still have their purposes in my book!

Lavandula


jacooper Nov 17th, 2022 03:00 PM

Hello from another Brisbanite

I’m enjoying your well-written report. Neither my husband nor I drive when in Europe as we had enough trouble just driving in the UK a few years ago with a GPS and google maps often being confusing. One time in Cornwall we were directed to drive down a steep laneway into a river!

After that trip I decided that it would be good to also have detailed local paper maps next time.

Judy


Sassafrass Nov 17th, 2022 05:43 PM

Great read! Thank you for sharing your adventure. I hope you continue to participate in this form. You can give a lot of good advice to others, from planning to execution of the plan.

MIACHARLIE Nov 18th, 2022 03:48 AM

Week 2 (continued)
19/10 - 20/10
The first two days in Nice were spent following another walking tour that we put together ourselves. This part of the trip was supposed to be the chill portion before we headed into Italy, so we took it easy.
We visited the Modern and Contemporary Art Museum of Nice, which had a lot of interesting exhibitions on different artists, as well as being able to walk along the top of the building and enjoy the view of the city. Onto the Port de Nice, where we got some ice cream and sat for a little while, before walking up around the bottom of Castle Hill and heading towards the English Promenade. After a nice walk along the coastline and dipping our feet in the water, we went up Castle Hill, had some drinks and explored the area, before heading down in the old elevator. That walk up the hill was killer, but there are places to sit and rest on the way, which I took advantage of.
We headed back through the Old Town, which is a treasure trove of all the souvanirs you could possibly want, as well as quaint old architecture and restaurants.
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21/10
I had been wanting to visit one of the cute seaside towns, and so we headed to Menton, a popular holiday destination with plenty of history. Popular in summer, maybe- this was the first place where I felt the off-season taken seriously. Down by the beach, it was eerily silent and the overcast sky didn't help. It felt like a ghost town. Apartments and hotels were shut up, and few shops were open. However, it was a nice walk, and we found one of those tourist trains operating, so we bought tickets and took a ride around town while the recorded tour guide explained the sights. Here we bought many lemon products to take home, and tried the different treats on offer in the small part of the city that was still busy.
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22/10
This was another rest day. Laundry again, souvanirs, packing, and trying new foods, as well as planning our train trip meticulously so as to not find ourselves in the same predicament we were in when leaving Paris. Tickets secured, bags packed, route to the station plotted out, we went to bed early again.

(To be continued)

Melnq8 Nov 18th, 2022 07:14 AM

I'm thoroughly enjoying your report Mia.

Count me in as another Aperol Spritz fan.

Leely2 Nov 18th, 2022 12:32 PM

Great report and photos!

cheska15 Nov 18th, 2022 03:01 PM

Fabulous trip report and brings back so many memories. I feel I’m with you every step of the way. Even to missing a train 🤣

travelchat Nov 18th, 2022 05:36 PM

Really an enjoyable TR. Impressed that you are traveling while incorporating every day chores such as laundry as you go along. Resting in between to rejuvenate, methodically mapping and planning ahead - very smart! Watching and waiting for the next installment!

MIACHARLIE Nov 18th, 2022 05:36 PM

Week 3
23/10 - 24/10
On the morning of the 23rd we took the train into Italy. The tickets were prebooked and the itinerary studied, so we made sure there would be no surprises. We arrived in Verona later that evening, and after checking into B&B Open Doors, which was a little hard to find, we went to find some dinner. Not much was open on a Sunday night, but we found a nice little bar and had some bruschetta.
The next day we followed our own little tour again, finding all the interesting, history-filled spots in Verona. They have their own coluseum, which is still in use for plays and operas, as well as many other roman-era landmarks. We found Juliet's House- while Romeo and Juliet were fictional characters, their families were based on two prominent wealthy ones in Verona at the time, and so Juliet's balcony and her statue reside in the courtyard of the old Cappello residence. There is a shop directly opposite the house that sells all the Romeo and Juliet merch you could want, and a door that is absolutely covered in love locks. It's quite the interesting sight.
We continued on, enjoying the Piazza Delle Erbe and it's ancient features, and further on, Castel San Pietro with its own cable car and beautiful view over the city, and the Castelvecchio, further along the river.
After one more night in Verona, we went on our way to Venice.
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25/10 - 26/10
The train ride to Venice went smoothly, and we found our way through the city to the apartment we were renting pretty easily. One thing I immediately discovered was that Venice was the birthplace of the Aperol Spritz, and you could find them at every restaurant and bar for about 2 to 3.50€, which was a huge difference from the 6, 9 and 12€ drinks I'd been finding everywhere else. You better believe I took advantage of this fact.
Venice was charming, in a different way to Verona or anywhere else I ended up, and it's one place I would love to come back to, despite the smell at low tide and the wet pavement at high tide. We wandered the streets, peering in windows full of carnival masks, finding the cutest cafes to have drinks at, and exploring landmarks, such as the Rialto Bridge, beautiful St Mark's Square, the Jewish Ghetto (I don't like using that word but that is it's official name) and the most famous bookshop in Venice: Librairie Acqua Alta. This shop has a large collection of English books, a staircase of books leading to a view over the canal, and a gondola to sit in by the 'fire exit', which is nice if you can't afford a real gondola ride but want to pretend. Guess which boat (ha) I was in. This bookshop had been on my list of places I just had to visit, so I was happy to tick it off.
All in all, it was an enjoyable day of wandering and enjoying the sights. I had had some big plans to visit Murano and Burano as well, but that didn't end up happening. Oh well, now I have a reason to return, right?

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(To be continued)

Sassafrass Nov 18th, 2022 06:25 PM

Love the photos of you and your Dad! Great memories for both of you.

bilboburgler Nov 19th, 2022 01:35 AM

Venice is the original Ghetto, nothing wrong with the word especially with a capital letter ;-)

KarenWoo Nov 19th, 2022 05:30 AM

Still enjoying your report and beautiful photos! We spent 2 one-night stays in Nice several years ago. Not long enough. We had planned a 5-night visit for 2020 and planned to visit Menton for a day but of course that trip never happened. So I appreciate the photos of Menton.

Haven’t been to Venice yet, either. Your photos are beautiful especially the light you captured.

geetika Nov 19th, 2022 09:32 PM

Am so enjoying your TR and gorgeous pictures, please keep them coming! You’re lucky to travel with your dad, unfortunately mine passed quite young, so I have no travel memories with him as an adult. But we travelled all over the world with mom, so we do have that.

I’m another Apérol Spritz fan, discovered them in Sicily this April and we always had one every evening, prices from €2.50 in Naples to €12 in Amalfi! 😉



AJPeabody Nov 20th, 2022 05:07 AM

Very nice pictures, for sure. What did you use to take them?

MIACHARLIE Nov 20th, 2022 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by AJPeabody (Post 17415307)
Very nice pictures, for sure. What did you use to take them?

Some are from my phone and some are from my dad's. Both Oppos. The better quality ones are his.

MIACHARLIE Jan 2nd, 2023 01:16 AM

Week 3, part 2
27/10 - 30/10

It was about 2.5 hours on the train from Venice to Florence. Our hotel was in what seemed to be an apartment building, and it seems to be a common design, to convert a block of units in a building into holiday stays. Next door was a restaurant where we enjoyed pizza and a Spritz after settling in, and it was a relaxing evening as we made ourselves comfortable in preparation for a longer stay in the city.

Walking through the streets of old Florence was like visiting a time capsule from the Renaissance. Our first stop of the day was Il Duomo di Firenze. Honestly this was the most beautiful church I've seen on this trip- I have a huge weakness for gothic architecture, and the green and red marble of the facade is so pretty. It was free entrance, but there was a long line that grew longer and longer behind us, and the sun was so hot already in the morning, so I was very relieved that the church was so beautiful and worth the wait.

Our next stop was one of the largest churches of Florence and the burial place of all the principal members of the Medici family, Basilica San Lorenzo. A little comically, there was a statue of a man pushing against the wall, which many tourists posed next to doing the same. I couldn't find an explanation for the artwork, but it was an interesting addition.

Next up was Sagrestia Vecchia, which was collaborated on by Brunelleschi, Donatello and Michelangelo, and then further south, Piazza della Signoria with the fascinating open-air museum Loggia dei Lanzi. We found somewhere to sit and rest out of the sun, while we tried to figure out buying tickets for the
Ufizzi and Academia Galleries. And here is where we realized that despite visiting in the off-season, we made the mistake of expecting to buy tickets on the day. I know we should have booked them beforehand, but it didn't cross my mind that they would be sold out. So, we missed the Galleries. The major tourist destination that everyone besides us will have visited in Florence. Add that to the lost of places we have to return to next time.

Anyway, we continued on once we realised our mistakes, determined to continue having a good time. The Church of Santa Croce was our last stop north of the Arno River. It was also very beautiful on the outside, and contains the tombs of famous people like Galileo. We spent some time inside, before heading back towards our hotel, grabbing some pistachio gelato on the way and checking out the many, many stalls of people selling leather goods. Florence was absolutely full of fun tourist traps that offer all kinds of souvanirs, and they were nice to browse through on our way home.

The next day we continued our tour with our first stop at the Ponte Vecchio, the bridge over the Arno River which contains many, many jewellery shops. This is the only old Florentine bridge that survived allied bombing during World War 2 and has served as a model for several other bridges in Europe. Interestingly, the shops on Ponte Vecchio were once a meat market, but the Medicis replaced the meat shops with goldsmiths to get rid of the smell, which I have to say is definitely an improvement, as I can't imagine how the bridge would smell on hot days like that one.

On our way to Cappella Brancacci, a church known for its elaborate frescoes, I stumbled upon something that I had been excited to see for months since I discovered they existed- the wine window of the restaurant Babae. There are various windows scattered through the city, but this was the first one I found, and it was still in operation hundreds of years after they were introduced in the 17th century. While they were invented as ways to sell wine tax free, in 1630 they were perfect for the plague that swept through Europe, allowing for sales to continue with limited human contact. During the height of the pandemic, they became useful again, and some are still in today, though I think Babae may be the last working one. We stopped here for coffee before continuing on, and I was thrilled to tick this piece of history off the bucket list.

Cappella Brancacci was closed. No matter, we continued on to the Palazzo Pitti and Boboli Gardens. The Palace was bought by the Medici family in 1549 and became the chief residence of the ruling families of the Grand Duchy of Tuscany. It grew as a great treasure house as later generations amassed paintings, plates, jewelry and luxurious possessions. While exploring this gorgeous building, I noticed something funny- half of the male statues were missing their members. Apparently they were removed at some point because they were believed to excite women too much, and women aren't allowed to be excited, are they? This way of thinking didn't affect the hundreds of lovely breasts represented in paintings and sculptures, of course. Go figure.
Anyway. The Palace was beautiful. The Gardens were beautiful. We stayed until the sun was starting to set, and hurried out, planning to watch it set from the top of the ​​​​​​Piazzale Michelangelo.

This was poorly planned out, as the Piazzale was a long walk and eventually a climb, and it was slow going after a long day of walking. However, we made it before the sun completely set, and the view was worth the climb. Florence shimmered in the golden sunset, so many churches and domes... There was a bronze copy of the statue of David, so at least we didn't completely miss seeing him. Stalls of expensive food, drinks and souvanirs lined the edge of the courtyard, and best of all of this, in my opinion, was the the free live show. A fun, lively little Italian man was playing a mix of Italian and English songs on his guitar and the crowd around him was dancing. It felt like a dream, dancing and drinking above the Renaissance city while the sun set. We stayed until the stars came out, and then began the long walk back to our hotel.

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KarenWoo Jan 2nd, 2023 07:16 AM

Your photos are gorgeous and your report is very, very interesting and informative. I enjoy the tidbit about the male statues missing part of their anatomy!:) It's too bad that you missed the Uffizzi and Academia Galleries, but I would never expect them to be sold out in late October, either. I have a request. Would you be able to add a brief description underneath each photo? There is a place where you can do that just before you click on upload. It says something like "say something about this photo". Your photos are beautiful and interesting so it's nice to know exactly what a person is looking at. If you can't, don't worry about it.

Melnq8 Jan 2nd, 2023 07:58 AM

Ah yes, women are so excitable, yet men aren't. Imagine that:)

A thoroughaly enjoyable read, thank you for posting.


Adelaidean Jan 2nd, 2023 11:16 AM

Mia Charlie, we chose not to visit the art galleries in Florence, so we can join you on the list of tourists that missed it.

MIACHARLIE Feb 14th, 2023 02:28 AM

Week 4
31/10 - 04/11
We took the train from Florence to Rome in about 2 hours, and checked in to Hostel Positano, a rather simple, clean place to stay in a large, old roman building. They didn't provide breakfast themselves, but they did have an arrangement with a nearby cafe for customers to receive free breakfast of the usual- croissants, coffee and juice. An added bonus was that the croissants could be filled with a flavor of our choosing- my favorite was pistachio. Across the street from the hostel was a restaurant with good, if not a little overpriced, food- either Bistro Srl or Yellow Bar. I enjoyed a combo meal there. Pizza, Tiramisu and Wine. Very nice.

Our first full day in Rome, we took a train straight to the Colosseum, bright and early. It was a warm, sunny day, which became uncomfortably hot the longer we waited outside, trying to buy a ticket. Of course, as seems to be the usual with us, we forgot to book ahead. The only tickets available were from resellers who jacked the prices up but did provide tour guides, so we decided to bite the bullet and spend the money. So inside the giant stadium of ancient times we went.

We were glad to have the tour guide, as we managed to learn some interesting facts that we didn't know before. For instance, the Colosseum was built on a man-made lake and the first sports performed were on boats, before the lake was drained and the more well-known man vs animal sports began. Another was that there were three sections for spectators to sit- closest to the ring was nobility and royals, then above them were common men, and above them were women and slaves. Now, one may see this as sexist, as the official reason was so that men did not get distracted by the shoulders of the women in front of them. However, this became a blessing for those in the top of the stadium, as sometimes the hungry animals would climb the walls and attempt to eat the spectators... so you tell me who was luckier in that situation.

It was rather sobering to stand in the ruins of the ancient roman stadium and reflect what happened there almost 2000 years ago. Around 400,000 people and 1,000,000 animals died for the sake of entertainment or punishment for crimes or faith. It's hard to think about.

Eventually we left after much reflection, we headed up to Palatine Hill to explore the ruins that still stand to show the grandeur of roman history almost as much as the Colosseum does. It is widely thought to be the birthplace of the Roman Empire, the preferred neighbourhood of some of the most powerful rulers of the time, with a complex of historic buildings that include palaces, theatres, homes and monuments. Olive trees line the pathways and it was a peaceful place to wander through, imagining how it might have looked long ago.

Palatine Hill led us to Orti Farnesiani, a beautiful 16th century garden fringed by the Roman ruins. As well as a fantastic view over Rome, there were restored pavilions, topiary and statues, giving the place a light and airy feel. The view showed us our next destination, the Roman Forum, a huge excavated site with the remains of 2000 year old temples, squares and government buildings. Almost ruined-out by that stage in the day, we headed for Campidoglio, an impressive hilltop square designed by Michelangelo, before heading for the train and going home to a hearty dinner of pizza and wine.

Walking Rome was a little more tiring thanks to the heat, but there was so much to see. I'm not sure if we could have seen all of it if we were there for a month. But the next day was again filled with historical landscapes as we took the train to Spagna station and headed for the Spanish Steps, apparently considered to be the widest and longest staircase in Europe, situated between Piazza di Spagna and the Trinita de Monti church. So called because this used to be the location of the Spanish embassy. It is a beautiful landmark, if a bit hard on the knees.

Continuing through the streets, passing the Keats-Shelley Memorial association for the romantic poets out there, and the Corinthian Column with it's Virgin Mary statue, we upgraded from the small Fontana della Barcaccia to the much larger and more popular Fontana di Trevi. This beautiful, aqueduct-fed rococo fountain from the 1700s attracted many people with the same idea as us, and even in the off-season, the crowd around the fountain was impossible to navigate. I wanted to get some water from the tiny lovers fountain around the side of the landmark, but alas I failed my mission. Instead I got gelato at a very busy shop that was almost more trouble than it was worth, and continued on our trek after a few quick pictures.

The next stop was the famous Pantheon, the iconic temple with it's almost impossible domed roof, containing tombs dating back to the Renaissance. This building has been standing- and preserved beautifully- for 2000 years. So many things on this trip blew my mind and this was one of them. Now might be a good time to mention a recent discovery regarding the secret of roman concrete, which added to the awe I felt for roman architecture- the reason it was preserved so well was the limestone hot-mixed into it, which caused the concrete to crack a certain way and allow water to be absorbed, which when mixed with the limestone, binded everything together and made the building heal itself. Amazing what the Romans were able to accomplish, resulting in the glimpses of history we are able to enjoy today.

After searching out somewhere for lunch (somewhere not in view of a landmark that would drive the prices up), we continued on through the historical center of the city. We found Piazza Navona with it's fountains and statues, Campo de Fiori with it's local markets, and wandered the old cobblestones of ancient streets until we crossed the River Tiber on the Ponte Sant'Angelo to reach the Castle of the same name. It was closed to the public, so we continued on until we crossed over into Vatican City.

As it was getting late, even though I would have liked to see the Sistine Chapel, we didn't particularly relish giving money to the institution who's ground we were walking on, and we simply explored the public square before heading in the direction of the nearest train station.

Finally, it was close to the end. Our last day in Rome was a peaceful one. We sought out our final souvanirs, did some laundry, repacked our bags so that they would fit on the plane (the local airline from Rome to Paris was going to be very difficult for luggage) and enjoyed our last walk through Roman streets. Now might be a good time to tell you, all who are hoping to go to Rome, not to expect cleanliness anywhere other than the historical areas. Don't be fooled by the abundant clean water fountains and incredible historical landmarks- you will see trash. Everywhere. Overflowing the bins, collecting behind stalls, in every corner of the main streets. And don't ever take a shortcut behind a building. That's reserved for the homeless people to dump their waste. You don't want to be cleaning shit off your shoes.

Regardless of this surprising discovery, Rome was quite enjoyable, and we hadn't even seen half of it. Perhaps I will return, in cooler weather.

The next morning we flew back to Paris.

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MIACHARLIE May 15th, 2026 05:53 PM

While rereading this report, I realised I never posted what happened in the last days of this trip. So here it is:

Week 4
5-6/11/2022

We flew to Paris from Rome on the morning of the 5th, checked into our hotel in the Latin Quarter, and decided to take one last walk in the City of Love. We stayed south of the river this time, and found our way to Shakespeare and Co, a famous bookshop that used to host travellers in exchange for working in the shop, called the Tumbleweed program. Predictably, this program ended in 2020. The bookshop was lovely, if you enjoy dark, pokey rooms filled with books, which I do. My dad bought me the Shakespeare and Co official version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, my favourite book, as I had lost my copy a few years before. Thanks dad!
Once we had finished inside, we had lunch at the cafe right next door. By now it was raining and cold, so we had soup to warm ourselves up.
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We then bought some umbrellas and continued to wander the streets until we found ourselves at the Marie Curie museum, which I found fascinating. It's small, but worth it if you're a fan of science. The rest of the day passed in a similar manner, no plan, just wandering, until it was time for dinner, and we returned to La Petit Hostellerie to have our last good French meal before leaving the next day.

Now comes the story of how I spent 24 hours in a Paris airport.

This day was just a comedy of errors.

The fact was, we were supposed to leave at 7:30 to get to the airport nice and early. The hotel we were in didn't start breakfast service until 7:30. We thought it would be fine if we stayed for 15 mins to take advantage of the free breakfast before we left, and so we did. First mistake.

Then we blithely headed to the train station, only to find that the line we were supposed to be on was closed. We left that station and walked to another, and got on a train that was supposed to go to the airport. We didn't check the board, otherwise we would have seen that the particular train we got on was NOT going to the airport. Second mistake.
I watched in despair on Google maps as the train zoomed away from the line we were supposed to be on. Finally getting off at the first station we good, I tried to book an Uber to take us to the airport, only to find that we couldn't leave. We were forced to double back on the train and take the correct one to the airport.

After all this rigamarole, instead of being early to check in, we were late. So late that we couldn't check our bags. Fine, our bags were small enough to go in the cabin. We then got stuck in a long, long security line. When we finally made it to security, they pulled out bags aside. Our flight was boarding. We asked the security man to check our bags quickly because we were going to miss our flight otherwise. He looked my dad in the eye and deliberately went as slowly as possible. My bag was fine, and I could have just gotten on the plane and left dad there. But I didn't. That was the third mistake, believe it or not.

Our flight left without us, but thank God for Singapore airlines. They booked us on the next flight without charge, which was in 10 hours time. So we meandered through the terminal for 10 hours, exploring, drinking too much coffee, using the free wifi. We stayed in Starbucks until they closed and kicked us out. As the time grew nearer, we settled at our gate to wait, already exhausted. The gate agents called us up to give us our new boarding passes. And that's when I discovered that I had lost my passport.

It wasn't in my travel wallet, where I kept it for the whole trip. Because I was anticipating using it sooner, I had put it in my book pocket instead. Fourth mistake. And now it was gone.

You can imagine my panic. We had a whole terminal to search. We'd been in every shop and bathroom there was. We ran the length of the terminal several times, looking in bathrooms, bins, any shops that were still open, asking the cleaners, but nothing turned up. I was in tears, my dad was trying to hold it together, the airline staff were apologetic but there was nothing they could do. I couldn't board without my passport, and dad wouldn't leave without me. So we missed our flight. Again.

And yet again, thank god for Singapore Airlines. They booked us on ANOTHER flight without charge. It was the end of the day now, and we had the night to find my passport before our flight in the morning. By now, I was almost certain my passport was in Starbucks, where we had spent a good amount of time, but it was closed and they wouldn't open it for us to look. So we found a quiet corner on the airport, stacked some chairs together, and went to sleep.

My darling dad got up early the next day and went into Starbucks as soon as it opened. And guess what he found underneath a chair? My passport. I cried. No longer would I have to write to the Australian embassy in Paris to get permission to leave the country. The nightmare was over, and the only collateral damage was a lost work day for both of us.

We finally got on a plane and left Paris.

So many things went wrong. We didn't get up early enough, we used time we didn't have, we didn't check the boards. I didn't leave when I could have, and dad got stuck with me when he could have easily taken the second flight. I wasn't careful enough with my passport. But all's well that ends well. I learned my lesson and things went so much smoother on my next trip to Paris. But that's another story, and it's coming soon!

Thanks for reading!

KayF May 16th, 2026 05:03 PM

Mia, thanks for this last, dramatic, post. I had to read it twice, to take it all in!

I cannot imagine how awful that must have been for you. You are so lucky to have had your dad with you, to lean on when you were upset. You must have been beyond thrilled when your passport was found, yay!!

MIACHARLIE May 17th, 2026 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by KayF (Post 17721429)
Mia, thanks for this last, dramatic, post. I had to read it twice, to take it all in!

I cannot imagine how awful that must have been for you. You are so lucky to have had your dad with you, to lean on when you were upset. You must have been beyond thrilled when your passport was found, yay!!

Yes, I was very lucky to have dad with me. He was my rock when things went wrong, even though we argued and had our conflicts during the trip. This experience has taught me a lot.


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