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Four Days In Istanbul
My wife and I will be spending four days in Istanbul in July ('25). As we have never visited Istanbul and know little about the city we are busy referencing travel guides to teach ourselves up and make the best use of our time while there. It appears to us that most (not all) of the sights we wish to visit are concentrated in Sultanahmet within walking distance of each other. We have already booked lodging in this section of the city. My question to you Fodorites out there who know Istanbul is this; Given that these sights are in close proximity to one another (i.e., walking distance) and to our hotel is it best to book a tour to see them or can we rely on our Fodors Essential Turkey guide, the self-guided recorded tours I assume will be available at each sight and good walking shoes to soak it all in? We would hire a taxi for a visit to Dolmabahce Palace and maybe a few other places. Please clue us in. Thanks
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I felt no need to use a guide or guided tour to visit the wonders of Istanbul. A good guidebook, the audio guides when available, and (as you say) good walking shoes. :)
It is spectacular -- enjoy! |
Consider hiring a private guide for a half day or so, I think ours was 6-7 hours. I was absolutely exhausted. We went everywhere. Along with the personal narration and history as we walked she knew where to go and how to get there...totally bypassed lines into the cistern, and other perks. All walking. Hit all the spots, ate lunch. It was my daughter's idea, not sure the cost but if you can afford it, I would sure check it out. Saved us much time and hassle. Maybe do a half day to get a basic lay of the land and history narrative and go back other days to to do a deep dive or explore places you find interesting.
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Originally Posted by wildiowa
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Consider hiring a private guide for a half day or so, I think ours was 6-7 hours. I was absolutely exhausted. We went everywhere. Along with the personal narration and history as we walked she knew where to go and how to get there...totally bypassed lines into the cistern, and other perks. All walking. Hit all the spots, ate lunch. It was my daughter's idea, not sure the cost but if you can afford it, I would sure check it out. Saved us much time and hassle. Maybe do a half day to get a basic lay of the land and history narrative and go back other days to to do a deep dive or explore places you find interesting.
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Originally Posted by kleeblatt
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Agreed. Istanbul is quirkier and more hectic that other European cities. We had a guide for three days who gave us the insight we needed to understand and appreciate Istanbul's culture, history, religion and politics.
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Daughter said this is the firm. She did research. They were good. Gulche was our guide.
https://www.istanbullocalguides.com/ |
I think it is easy to explore your own with your guidebooks and other aids. And I agree with Kja that Istanbul is not particularly frenzied. Sultanahmet does have many sights but it also has many tourists. Stay there if you like but do get to Topkapi and to Nisantsi and other areas of the city to get the real feel of the place. If you are interested in architecture, you ought to see the old Ottoman yalis along the Bosphorus, from the water.
Ii think that many visitors concentrate on Sultanahmet when there is lots outside that district to explore. If you can afford a private guide you will learn a lot more but it's not necessary. |
Kja, agree, to a point. We have landed cold in many European cities and, while often chaotic, we are pretty good at getting around and acclimated. Istanbul felt ..somehow different. Maybe it is the historic intruque and mystery, but again my daughter sprung the $$ for our tour and I sure didn't argue. While we would likely not have done it on our own, in this case and in spite of our experience and confidence navigating Europe I was super happy we didn't do it on our own. The color, the background she offered just walking from site to site was really worth it. Money well spent, for us. Check it out...either way it's a great city!
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Four Days In Istanbul
Thanks to each of you for your input. I value the info. We're still mulling over which approach to take but are leaning toward striking out on our own. Yes, we plan to visit sights outside Sultanahmet and will do so via taxi if we're on our own. I have a follow-up question I'd love you to comment on. Is a full day cruise on the Bosphorus all the way to the mouth of the black sea worth burning one of the four days we're in Istabul? Would appreciate your input. Thanks
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If you really want to understand Istanbul, you should have a look at the Roman History between the 3rd an the 15th century and at the Turkish History from then until today.
Bosporus Cruise: all depends on your interests: I would rather spend my time in the big Historic Museums or in the Café Pierre Loti area (Phanar included).. |
I too agree with wildova, we did benefit from having a guide show us around the Sultanahmet area the first time we went in 2013. I don’t remember it as being particularly expensive, DH about I were part of a group of 6-8, we walked everywhere, with a break for lunch. While I had done my homework and knew quite a bit of the history, the guide did give us new information, I also enjoyed hearing his perspective and opinions on the then socio-political situation. Plus he took us right in without having to wait in line, especially helpful at the Topkapi Palace and Basilica Cistern.
Highly recommend the Chora or Kariye Church, with its magnificent mosaics. The old city walls aren’t too far away and are definitely worth a visit, also the Pierre Loti café hill (forget the name!). The museums as well, though I wasn’t a huge fan of the Bosphorus cruise. |
Yes to geetika regarding the interaction and commentary! I totally ignored that ..having a guide allows you to ask questions and get perspectives from someone living there, absolutely invaluable. I am a political animal and was able to get so much background and inside info.....Russian oil, arms headed for Ukraine, gateway between Europe and Asia....just fascinating and alliances change daily. I got really down in the weeds and initiated very personal and sometimes touchy issues and got a lot of inside info, enlightening and often surprising. I think it's a cheap investment and well worth it.
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We've requested price quotes from the tour company you suggested earlier. Haven't heard back yet.
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I must admit that I didn't think the Bosphorus cruise to the Black Sea worth it. It was OK; there were some interesting moments; but not enough to justify the whole day for me. That said, I should note that I'm not all that thrilled with boat rides that last more than an hour or two. In contrast, the boat ride through the Golden Horn was a sheer delight!
I second the recommendations for the Chora Church and the hill offering views over the Golden Horn -- Pierre Loti Tepesi. BTW. I found public transportation in Istanbul very easy and convenient. No need for taxis within the city unless that's your preference! My trip report is ancient, but here's a link in case you want to take a look: https://www.fodors.com/community/eur...turkey-938594/ |
We did the Bosphorus River cruise as well and found it less of a highlight than so many of the other places we saw.
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Yeah, I'm hesitant to devote an entire day to that cruise when there's so much else to be seen.
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The cruise we took was much shorter, 1.5hrs I think, but even that was too much for us. We’d had a long day with lots of walking and were tired and sleepy by the time we got on the boat, which the droning commentary didn’t help counteract!
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I would never discourage anyone from hiring a guide — in tourist destinations like Istanbul, many people make decent careers as guides, and I don’t want to say anything to deprive one of them of your business. I’ve visited Istanbul three times so far (though my most recent visit was eight years ago), and I’ve always managed it entirely on my own (but then, I had studied some Turkish — though I’m far from fluent -- and so I had a bit of extra confidence in going about on my own).
A few other comments: {} Unlike some of the above respondents, I did not find Istanbul to be a particularly hectic city. {} I would second most of the recommendations above, particularly the Pierre Loti cafe, and the Chora church. I’m also quite fond of the Museum of Turkish and Islamic Art —it’s right there in Sultanahmet, but somehow it doesn’t seem to get the notice it deserves. {} You may also want to consider attending a sema (“whirling-dervish” performance — for respectful tourists only). But if you do, try to see a sema by members of an actual Sufi lodge, like the Galata. During my last visit, I found a number of dance groups advertising semas all over town, and perhaps their performances are very good; but you would go to the Louvre only to see only the real Mona Lisa, not a very good imitation; and in Istanbul, you would likewise want to see only a real sema. (The tourist information office can probably help you with this.) {} Perhaps things have changed in the last eight years, but in Sultanahmet — and just Sultanahmet, nowhere else in the city — I was often approached by “touts” invariably trying to lure me into carpet shops. Perhaps solo travellers like me are the most frequent targets; in any case, if someone approaches you from behind saying “hello-sir—how-are-you—where-are-you-going” in heavily accented English, be wary. There will probably be no real danger involved, but just assume that whatever he tells you, the tout’s aim is to get you into a carpet shop (and thus earn himself a commission). Don’t be deceived if he tells you it’s an “arts-and-crafts” shop, or something else — it will be a carpet shop. {} Generally, Istanbul is a magnificent, historic city; and while there are bound to be exceptions, I’ve found the people generally to be plain, decent, and welcoming. A visit to this city is a remarkable experience. |
The info I've received from all of you responders today has been much appreciated. This is why I rely so often on Fodors Forum for reliable advice. I think we're going to pass on a full day sail on the Bosphorus. Still torn as to employing a guide or "winging it" during our stay. Thanks so much.
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We did Istanbul by ourselves about 10 years ago
and recently returned with my fiancé who has never been to Turkey. She hired a guide for the day in Sultanhamet which made touring a bit easier and it was nice to talk about a variety of things about Turkey and Istanbul outside of the tour. If you have a nice day taking the water ferry up through the Bosporus towards the Black Sea is inexpensive and takes about an hour and a half if my memory is correct. Nice to have a fish lunch at one of the stops. |
We had a guide on our first visit in 2013 and like mjs enjoyed our discussions with the guide. I also agree the short Bosphorus cruise is more than enough, unless you’re staying a week or longer.
Even in 2013 shopkeepers would invite us to come look at carpets every time we walked down the street from our hotel. They knew us and knew we weren’t interested, but would still ask us to just take a look. Ignore them and just walk on. |
Although I didn't use a guide, I had several long and fascinating discussions with staff at my hotel who were more than willing to answer my questions.
I found the merchants in Turkey quite pleasant. They invited me to buy or look at their goods, but they were never pushy. They did seem to appreciate a "no, thank you" rather than a "NO!" and rather than being ignored. When I did shop, bargaining always involved a friendly exchange. I remember a funny moment at one shop selling scarves: I offered a price, the woman countered with a price that was higher than I was willing to pay, so I thanked her and left. She chased me onto the street to agree to my initial offer! |
Yes, shopkeepers are rarely pushy. From Day 2 the ones on our street recognized us and would joke that we didn’t want to buy anything from them. They’d ask us to come in and have a cup of mint tea and just look around, no compulsion to buy.
This I have seen in North America too, Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt, everywhere they would offer you mint tea. In Ourzazzate, Morocco I accidentally broke an earthenware pot and the shopkeeper refused to let me pay for it, said it wasn’t important. He was totally Zen about it, but I was mortified and ended up buying a couple of gift items. |
We've always mixed walking tours with DIY in our decades of travel, and as we've aged, we're far more attuned to the limits of foot pain and our needs for bathroom stops, so we're leaning further away from taking any tour. I don't think you need a guide in Istanbul as long as you've read up (which apparently you have) and I also second using the transportation system because that's part of the fun in the city. But there IS a type of tour I'd recommend heartily--a food tour.
The Culinary Backstreets company actually began in Istanbul as "Istanbul Eats" years ago by snagging the services of a beloved tour guide Angelis Nannos. Our tour with Angelis was the "Culinary Secrets of the Old City." It was exhausting and it was FABULOUS. Food IS history, and experiencing the history through food in Istanbul was fascinating. There are many food tours out there now. I'd read the reviews for those and go for it. And yeah, skip the Bosphorus cruise. It just eats up your time. |
I agree with some parts of the feedback, especially regarding the value of hiring a guide in Istanbul, as it’s a great way to support local guides. That said, I managed to explore the city on my own during my visits, even without being fluent in Turkish, though having some basic knowledge definitely helped.
Istanbul might not be as chaotic as some people suggest, though certain areas like the Grand Bazaar can feel crowded. Regarding performances, I think it’s important to experience authentic cultural displays rather than tourist-oriented ones. Overall, Istanbul is a beautiful and vibrant city with a rich history, and the people are generally very hospitable. |
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