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Former frequent poster from the US has temporarily given up on Europe because of the costs. Any more like me?

Former frequent poster from the US has temporarily given up on Europe because of the costs. Any more like me?

Oct 26th, 2007, 07:48 PM
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I too love Europe, but haven't been able to travel there recently due to budget limitations. My solution... Latin America! As others have mentioned, Argentina is an especially good deal, and Buenos Aires is a very European-like city. I've also had very good experiences in the rest of Central and South America at very reasonable costs. Of course, you can also spend and arm and a leg in any of these places if you choose to, but with a little research there are some excellent deals to be found!
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Oct 27th, 2007, 10:57 AM
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I don't think meals are super-cheap in Paris (drinks especially) compared to the US, but they aren't too bad. If a starter of asparagus was offered at 21 euro (which was on the menu, I believe -- the price -- if not, you never should order something without checking the price), I can see that you might expect it to be more than two stalks. That obviously must have been a very expensive restaurant, though, so it couldn't be a big surprise. No ordinary cafe or cheap restaurant would charge 21 euro for an asparagus starter. I haven't even paid that much at very touristy expensive places like Les Deux Magots for some similar things (like a leek tart or haricots verts salad). If asparagus wasn't in season and it was an expensive place, I could see that happening. But if one intends to split a starter with someone, you should definitely ask how many stalks it is or something.

You can do things like that anywhere, make choices you regret in restaurants and not checking prices, but I agree with Patrick, it has nothing to do with the topic, the exchange rate.
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Oct 27th, 2007, 11:25 AM
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If you travel to go "somewhere" then you could substitute a trip to South America or Asia for a trip to Europe. If however, you are drawn to Europe or the UK, as I am, then you will make whatever modifications to your budget to allow those trips.

There are still too many places in Europe that I want to visit so I will look at these years of the shrinking dollar as a time to work a little harder in my trip planning to make it affordable. Along the way we always seem to find those undiscovered gems that make it all worthwhile. Deborah
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Nov 12th, 2007, 08:06 PM
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We feel the same way, albeit, we just returned from Spain, due to an illness in my wife's family. (Sept-Oct).
We feel Europe with their exchange rate are shooting themselves in the foot, forcing tourism to smaller numbers every year, and thrown in the cost of the flights, what with the rising oil prices, being passed onto the "customer/tourist".
We would like to carry on as usual, as we have travel many times as yourself, but now travel there maybe just...a thought.
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Nov 14th, 2007, 05:16 AM
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swampone, your reaction about them "shooting themselves in the foot" with their low exchange rate makes it sound as if THEY are the ones who decided that the dollar should not be worth as much as it was a year or more ago. Do you think the Europeans all got together and said, "let's show those American tourists by making their money worth less"?
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Nov 14th, 2007, 05:24 AM
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"shooting themselves in the foot, forcing tourism to smaller numbers every year"

Wow, clearly a lack of understanding of global economics. If anything, "we" in the USA have no one to blame but ourselves (and those we've voted into political office).
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Nov 14th, 2007, 06:50 AM
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I thought that was a comment reflecting the idea that "Europe" just gets together and decides what the exchange rate will be. No country does that actually (except maybe Cuba or some like that who accept the USD as currency).

However, from things I've read there is a little something to that issue, and it's not all just what the US does or not. There are policies by the EU central bank that do also affect exchange rates, just as policies of the US Federal Reserve can. So you can't say one is to blame, but the same policies on the other side have nothing to do with it. Not just against the USD, but the interest rates set by the European Central Bank affect European exports and currency values and trade, also. Sarkozy has talked about this, and said that has caused some of the financial problems at Airbus, and I don't think he was referencing the USD at all in those complaints.

I don't know the details of international monetary issues, but don't think it's simple. However, I do certainly think the US has too much debt and that isn't helping, and is getting worse.
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Nov 20th, 2007, 09:28 AM
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I have travel plans for next week to Paris and Barcelona.

With the dollar a new low ($1.47 to 1 Euro) - this will unfortunately be my last trip to Europe (at least the Euro countries,) for a long time. Too bad, but it's become way too expensive for me. (And, now there area strikes in Paris too - another blow.)

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Nov 21st, 2007, 02:18 PM
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In researching hotels in Prague for a friend, I found one hotel (At the Three Drums Residence, #36 on Tripadvisor) with posted rates for 2008 that are lower than those for 2007. I don't remember the last time I came across a hotel anywhere that lowered its rates from one year to the next.
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