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Forgive me if this is a repeated post: New security rules banning all liquids, gels etc on all flights ...

Forgive me if this is a repeated post: New security rules banning all liquids, gels etc on all flights ...

Aug 11th, 2006, 08:23 AM
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Not adding anything of value to the post but....

Two of the suspects are young pregnant women??? How on earth can these people be so sick??!!
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Aug 11th, 2006, 08:25 AM
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I read that one of the suspects they arrested in London has a 6 month old baby. They took the baby along with the mother, since the baby needs to be with the mother. Ugh.
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Aug 11th, 2006, 08:26 AM
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Lighten up Saps...some of us don't live on computer boards.

I'm confused about car alarm remotes. In Orlando they've been saying in the paper and on the radio that car alarm remotes are no longer allowed. But I can't find that mentioned anywhere at TSA's site. Anyone else heard this?
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Aug 11th, 2006, 08:37 AM
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Wekiva, as a GENERAL TSA rule, electronic devices are permissible items, and will be allowed on board-HOWEVER, this is by no means a hard and fast rule. As I'm sure you know, MCO is a huge British gateway, so it could be that MCO is introducing stricter or different rules re permissible items than at other airports around the country-the individual airport security officials have the discretion to make that call, and that is a security benefit to everyone, because there are different categories of airports-obviously certain larger airports face more threats than others.
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Aug 11th, 2006, 08:38 AM
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"Two of the suspects are young pregnant women??? How on earth can these people be so sick??!!"

The degree to which some people have absolutely no regard for human life is just ... well, mind-boggling doesn't even come close. It is unimagineable to most of us.

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Aug 11th, 2006, 09:08 AM
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Sandi - thanks for the info. I'm flying out of DFW to LGW on 9/1, so it was nice to see that info presented here.
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Aug 11th, 2006, 09:29 AM
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I don't think anyone knows what will or won't be allowed in the future. There may be different requirements for different flights. I'm flying Air France from SFO ot CDG in Nov. and will check with Air France before I pack.
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Aug 11th, 2006, 09:39 AM
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Ok I'm a little confused. According to TSA and CNN you can bring a laptop, MP3 or camera as a carry on; however, British Airways my carrier says that you have to check in those items? So, should i just listen to the carrier? I'm flying to London from LAX on 8/21 and I don't want my electronics broken. . .

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Aug 11th, 2006, 09:41 AM
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Aug 11th, 2006, 09:55 AM
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SuzieC, I have a question. At my airport MCI, you can basically park and your gate is right by your car. Very good design of an airport. But I digress. You said you could put eyedrops and nasal spray in at security. Then what. Here we check out luggage BEFORE we get in line for security checks. So you think, we should all just take (1) squirt and throw the rest away? I can use nasal spray before I check my suitcase, but then I still need to get in line for security and then just wait to board and then the plane needs to be on time. It can be 3 or more hours from when I use the spray until take off. Thats not going to last me on a transatlantic flight, (especially), if its not a non-stop. I am so angry and sad that this has happened. I'm so sick of those crazy F#*$^%@ messing with the world.
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Aug 11th, 2006, 11:50 AM
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JYA-you raise a very interesting point-who to follow, air carrier or airport, when there are conflicting rules concerning carry-on items?

The fact of the matter is, a foreign carrier does not determine who, or what, may pass through an American screening checkpoint at an American airport-only the DHS/TSA has that authority, since they are the ones who make and enforce aviation security regulations in this country that govern both domestic and international carriers that fly into and out of this country. It is the TSA and its contract agents (such as at SFO, MCI-contract screeners), NOT the air carrier, who man the airport screening checkpoints. All carriers have to follow TSA rules at the airport, not the other way around. The TSA screeners will decide who may pass through to the sterile gate area, and with what carry-on items. No other entity is involved in this process.

The TSA says you may bring your portable laptop through the screening checkpoint -you will then pass through to the BA gatehold area, and the TSA will be initiating secondary screening at the gate (it is a tremendous operational effort that will take some time to get up to speed).

Here's where the conflict arises-, BA's website specifically states that, in order to avoid congestion and to speed up departure from US gateways, ALL hand-carried items will be prohibited on board the flights.

"In addition to these restrictions, the airline (BA) has decided that no hand baggage will be allowed in the cabin on inbound British Airways' flights to the UK from the USA to speed up the departure process from the USA."

What this effectively means is, you may bring your laptop through the US screening checkpoint and pass through to the sterile gate area-you may not bring it on board the BA flight.

If you were flying an American or other foreign carrier to Britain, you would be allowed to bring your laptop on board with you.
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Aug 11th, 2006, 12:05 PM
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While you might be correct about most airlines, what you said doesn't apply to El Al at most airports in the US. They do a separate screening of all passengers.
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Aug 11th, 2006, 12:32 PM
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Yes, you're correct, in that El Al is authorized at SOME US airports to do its own baggage screening, and secondary screening of pax and carry-ons. But not all, at least, not at this time. It has to request permission to the TSA for authorization to do its own screening, and the TSA has to authorize this request-this is not a short process.
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Aug 11th, 2006, 12:44 PM
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The British rules are stricter than the American rules (at least for now). On the flight out to the U.K., plan to check any liquids or gels you have. On the return flight, plan on surviving on the bare basics (wallet, medicine, and a few other things).

You may need to wrap and check your lap-top or any other electronic items on your return flight to the U.S. If there's something you worry about (stolen? damaged?), you may not want to take it. (I may not carry my brand new iPod....I may just take my cassette player/radio.)

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