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Michael Jul 31st, 2008 09:33 AM

For those who have been to Chartres
 
Of the three pictures posted here: http://europetogo.yuku.com/topic/7186, which one has the truer colors? Thanks.

tomboy Jul 31st, 2008 12:16 PM

I think #2
#3 seems too blue, #1 seems too bright and too turquoise

janisj Jul 31st, 2008 12:23 PM

I agree #2 looks closest - but since everyone's monitors can be different, can't what it looks like on one look different on others?

Michael Jul 31st, 2008 12:45 PM

Two of the photographs were taken with the camera, the third one is the manipulation of no. 2 which I felt was too red.

<i>since everyone's monitors can be different, can't what it looks like on one look different on others?</i>

That's my problem with digital pictures in general. There is a greater variety of tone and color than with film camera, and I am still trying to adjust. I have the impression that what I see in my viewfinder or the screen does not correspond with what I will see as a projected image or on my computer screen.

tomboy Jul 31st, 2008 12:50 PM

Not that it helps with your Chartres photos, but could you practice taking photos of known red/blue/green objects at home, and hence get an idea of which colors your camera needed correction for, if any?

Michael Jul 31st, 2008 01:02 PM

tomboy,

I have no problems with close ups (I'll eventually post my pictures once the editing is finished). It's when the lighting is low, as in a cathedral, and the windows are far away (not using the zoom). At that point, it looks like there will be a white blow-out, but there isn't. But if I set the camera to sunlight (what comes through the window) I get a differently result that if I set it to shade or indoors (the general ambiance), and none of the results really tell me what I will see when the picture is bigger. In these circumstances, the RAW format does not seem to help either.

I am thinking of experimenting with a preset option, and see if that might solve my problem.

lisa Jul 31st, 2008 01:33 PM

Definitely #2.

bratsandbeer Jul 31st, 2008 03:34 PM

I thought #3 because I didn't remember that the window was that intense of color. If I can find my photos I will compare.

Underhill Jul 31st, 2008 03:51 PM

Photo #2 best captures the famous &quot;Chartre blue&quot; that has never been duplicated.

Gretchen Jul 31st, 2008 04:02 PM

Well, actually Mr. Miller says that the window in a church near our home does just that!! Who knew.

Challiman Jul 31st, 2008 04:15 PM

Sorry, haven't been there, but I like number 2. I am a very amateur photographer who loves to travel, have my second DSLR, fell on the first one in Spain in March, and have lots of trouble in cathedrals with lighting and colors, so was interested in this post. I took 4 photos with 4 settings in a church in Barcelona, AUTO came out best! Of course, my settings might have been way off, I'm still learning. Also, I'll be seeing Chartres in October, so I'll take some pix there and come back and compare.

Ivy Jul 31st, 2008 04:17 PM

#2, I concur

Michael Jul 31st, 2008 04:20 PM

Would there be a consensus that these colors are off:

http://tinyurl.com/64y3eu

These were found on the web and the verticals are closer to 1 &amp; 3 on my computer.

momofrajah Jul 31st, 2008 04:21 PM

thanks for making me pull out my own pictures!! it's definitely #2. While in Chartres, I had the priveledge of singing &quot;O Nata Lux&quot;
by Morten Lauridson. The cover of that score is the Chartres window of the Nativity - very moving to sing in that space as the light poured in through the very window!

AnthonyGA Jul 31st, 2008 10:36 PM

There are too many variables between camera and screen in photography to ensure consistent color without careful calibration and expensive equipment. This is true for both digital and film photography.

If you want the best results, buy calibrated equipment and maintain color profiles from one piece of equipment to the next; you'll then get accurate color on your own PC, but there's still no telling what others will see on their screens, unless they, too, have calibrated equipment.

kerouac Jul 31st, 2008 10:52 PM

Have you compared with all of the examples available on Google images, like this: http://tinyurl.com/69u5eq

?

kerouac Jul 31st, 2008 10:53 PM

Oh, sorry... I see that you have.

Michael Aug 1st, 2008 07:14 AM

AnthonyGA,

True, but since two of the pictures were taken at the same time, it can be argued that one is closer to what standard colors are than the other.

quokka Aug 1st, 2008 12:48 PM

Another vote for #2.

palette Aug 1st, 2008 12:57 PM

#2

cigalechanta Aug 1st, 2008 01:11 PM

Looks like #2 to me. We didn't take any photos but there was no sun shining on the window so maybe if it was sunny, I'd have chosen 1.

Luhimari Aug 1st, 2008 01:46 PM

#2

Michael Aug 4th, 2008 04:46 PM

I am now asking for a contextual evaluation. As the pictures are presented, which one would you choose between 12 and 13, and between 14, 15 and 16. Thanks.

http://tinyurl.com/5ttnu6

tomboy Aug 4th, 2008 06:13 PM

Unsure what you mean/want

Michael Aug 4th, 2008 07:16 PM

12 &amp; 13 are the same subject, as are 14, 15 and 16. So which one would you choose from the first pair and which one from the next three?

tomboy Aug 5th, 2008 06:16 AM

12
16, followed closely by 15


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