elaine

Hi <BR>Too many of us are receiving repeated spam from some "artist" named David Schor who <BR>got our email addresses from this forum. <BR>I know that I have written to him and asked him to stop, but I just got another unwanted email today. <BR>his websites include <BR>www.davidschor.com <BR>[email protected] <BR>and <BR>[email protected] <BR> <BR>Fodors, is there any way you can intervene on our behalf? This person is obviously misusing the forum you so graciously provide, and it's also as annoying as heck. <BR>Thanks for anything you can do.

sally

elaine, <BR> <BR>several times on this forum some of us have told all of you who continue to complain about this spam that replying to him, even if it's to say you are not interested ONLY serves him. This notifies him that he has a valid email address. <BR> <BR>also, have suggested that you forward his messages to the abuse department at AOL. I assure you AOL has a policy against it's users sending out SPAM. Once more i will give you the abuse mail for aol <BR> <BR>[email protected] <BR> <BR>aol will cancel his account. <BR> <BR>the other OBVIOUS solution is don't use an email box that you don't want to get spammed in, because not only this guy buy others mine this board for email addresses. it is a fact!!! set up a FREE box at yahoo or hotmail and use that address if you INSIST on using a real box address. <BR> <BR>i am so tired of seeing these complaints when all of the complainers keep doing the very thing they shouldn't with this guy---responding to him.

Pdv28

Sally, <BR> <BR> I understand what you are saying, and it does make sense, but there was no way I wasn't going to stand up for my rights --even if it did make me get more of the same --at least I knew he knew that I didn't like what he was doing(that he was invading my privacy). I was polite, but also made it clear that he should not send me anything else as he should respect the privacy of others. I think he may have felt somewhat threatened b/c he hasn't sent any more spam to me. <BR> <BR>I do think that logically it makes sense to just ignore it, but then again, you aren't going to change anything if you don't make your views known. You sometimes have to stand up for what you believe in and what is right, regardless of the end results. It sometimes makes you feel better to let someone know they are invading your space. <BR> <BR>Patricia

Bob Brown

No filter on your email server??

sally

patricia, <BR> <BR>read my posting again. i have NOT suggested that you do nothing. i have only suggested that you do what has the best chance of producing the results that you want---which i assume is to stop getting spammed. spammers sell their list, for money. so the more valid email addresses they know they have the better. as i have said in this thread and several others before it, the action to take is to complain to their service provider. that is not doing nothing.

Mencken

P.U. that is some tacky looking "art". It reminds me of those black velvet pictures that were so popular in the 60's. Or those paintings of kids with the big huge eyes. Yeccch. Dave, when you say you're a painter, I assume you paint houses right?

noname

Enough already. This thing is so laughable. C'm folks, this is hardly high crime....more likely minescule misdemeanor. <BR>I, too, got spammed by him. When I got a followup spam (after the initial protests on the forum) asking if I still wanted to receive his email, I responded with a polite "No." He responded with a polite "Okay." i haven't heard from him since, nor have I been spammed by anyone else since then. End of story. <BR>This "how-dare-you-do-this-to-me-I'll-show-you" crap is just that, crap! I don't think my response to him made me fair game for any--let alone all--of the spammers.

PDv

I just want to clarify that I was very polite when I responded to him. I asked him not to e-mail anything else to me and then I thanked him for respecting the privacy of me & others by not e-mailing. He responding by saying ok. That's all...and it has worked! <BR> Sally, you are right that reporting it to aol is a good step and eventually may get results, but I also think that if you sometimes let someone know he is walking over your privacy (if he is decent) he will agree and stop. That's all I meant. <BR> <BR>Patricia

Sheila

Hey, Patricia, I did the same. Same response. No more spam

Wendy

Elaine, grow up and stop expecting other people to act as your Mommy. Is this seriously the first time you've ever encountered spam on your email account? I get it all the time, financial, porno, you name it. Guess what -- I set my email filter to block the known addresses and delete the rest simplyh from the subject line in a couple seconds, it's as simple as that. What on earth do you expect Fodors to do for you? Are you nuts to actually respond and carry on a correspondence with this person? You have spent more time whining about this and writing to this guy and posting on here than it would take to zap the email.

valerie

Wendy, <BR> <BR>Thank you!!!

x

"Grow up?" "Stop expecting other people to act as your Mommy?" "Are you nuts?" <BR> <BR>Wendy, can you express yourself on this forum without being rude? Thanks. <BR> <BR> <BR>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <BR> <BR> <BR>Author: valerie ([email protected]) <BR>Date: 8/30/2000, 5:58 pm ET <BR> <BR> <BR>Message: Wendy, <BR> <BR>Thank you!!! <BR> <BR> <BR>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Name: <BR> <BR> Email Address: <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>

tina

I kept hearing about this Artist spam and how offensive it was on this board. Today I saw what you are all up in arms about and although it is bad art it doesn't seem offensive. Sheesh lighten up.

Pdv

You can definitely delete the messages, but you also don't make your voice heard. <BR> <BR>Doesn't it urk you that you have to put a block on your e-mail in the first place? I happen to believe that people can actively bring about changes by just taking the steps to stand up for what they believe in **as long as it is a peaceful way** and to me communicating my grievances seemed to lead to change. <BR> <BR>I don't think there is anything wrong with enlisting Fodors to help --just because it doesn't monitor now, doesn't mean that it couldn't monitor in the future....and again, the only way that change comes about is when people pull together to help to enlist a change in policies. Sure one could "shut up" and "accept" the world as it is, but that doesn't do much to bring about any changes in this world. <BR> <BR>I just had to put in my 2 cents. <BR> <BR>Patricia

mimi

patricia, <BR> <BR>i believe you have put in more than 2 cents worth by now. <BR> <BR>point is, your way of responding does no good and that is what the purpose of responding is i believing. spammers aren't "nice" people. they are making a living. when you get telemarketing calls at home do you go through this whole drible with them about how they are disturbings you, etc. and does it do any good. no. they don't care. then to compound it all we all have to see this endless complaining from people who won't do what works!!! <BR> <BR>

Pdv28

Mimi, <BR> <BR> I understand you think that what I do doesn't work, but I feel it has worked--at least in my situation. And, then if we turn it around, does what you do really solve the problem of spam? It may "weed" it out, but it doesn't stop it. <BR> The way I see it is that nobody has an exact solution...but that's why everyone should do what works for them...there isn't always just one solution. <BR> <BR>Patricia

Cass

Just so some of you know: certain kinds of spam are programmed to wait for responses, since responses indicate an email address is "live." If you respond to such mail, even if it is to say "don't send me any morem," it will toggle your address in their list to show up as active and usable. This means that if they send another spam, you'll get it and if they share their list, you'll be on that list too. Filters, deletes, and dummy addresses are the way to go, with freebie-service ID as back-up if you want to correspond.

sally

cass, <BR> <BR>thank you for your comments. unfortunately some people refuse to do what works. so let them get their addresses on every spam list out there. is there a filter we can use so that we don't have to listen to their moaning and complaining when they do get spammed? maybe as they have suggested fodor's could help us with this. (humor) obviously i don't expect fodor's to get involved with this.

Marquis

Up to the top, for topper. <BR>