Fly from London to Paris or Chunnel with 4 month old baby?
Dec 21st, 2010, 09:02 PM
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AARRRRGH!!! Continental doesn't have any direct flights from Paris to London so we can't do an open jaw unless we fly from Paris to Munich to London to Houston to Phoenix, which is one leg too much with a little baby 
We'll have to do the Eurostar round trip which not only chews into our days but adds another substantial bit of cost to the trip. Stinks.
We'll have to do the Eurostar round trip which not only chews into our days but adds another substantial bit of cost to the trip. Stinks.
Dec 21st, 2010, 09:49 PM
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I know things are never this simple, but can't you book Phoenix to London then Paris to Phoenix and do the London to Paris section on Eurostar? Or am I missing something? Also why does it have to be Continental, there are lots of airlines. Unless you are using frequent flyer points?
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Dec 22nd, 2010, 03:06 AM
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"Also - very few nursing moms have enough milk not to supplement with formula - esp after the first month or so -" this is just so patently untrue I just had to comment.
I've been a volunteer lactation counselor for over 15 years.
Mothers in America can't be biologically that different to the rest of the world, even given the comments about different social conditions. MOST nursing mothers who feed their babies after the first month or so are perfectly capable of providing adequate supplies for their infant (and almost certainly are)and do not need to supplement with formula.To say the reverse is, in my view, completely misleading and the worst sort of advice to be giving a new mother.
I've been a volunteer lactation counselor for over 15 years.
Mothers in America can't be biologically that different to the rest of the world, even given the comments about different social conditions. MOST nursing mothers who feed their babies after the first month or so are perfectly capable of providing adequate supplies for their infant (and almost certainly are)and do not need to supplement with formula.To say the reverse is, in my view, completely misleading and the worst sort of advice to be giving a new mother.
Dec 22nd, 2010, 06:26 AM
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KayF, yes, it's FF miles so it has to be Continental and for a lot of silly little reasons we need to fly in and out through London. It just means that we will lose an extra 3/4 day with the return train trip. In a way it's better because my hubby and I always say that the 3rd leg in a row always breaks us (phx-iah-lhr-cdg), so to have 2 legs to get there (phx-iah-lhr) is sounding ok with a baby in tow!
Libretto, I applaud you as a lactation counselor. If I had to guess, I would say that a majority of the women who have milk supply problems didn't work with a lactation consultant at all or as often as needed to get in the groove. Breastfeeding is very natural and women expect it to come naturally to them and their baby, but the reality is that it doesn't come naturally at all, it's hard work, a colossal commitment and many times you need the help of a professional to get it going well!
Libretto, I applaud you as a lactation counselor. If I had to guess, I would say that a majority of the women who have milk supply problems didn't work with a lactation consultant at all or as often as needed to get in the groove. Breastfeeding is very natural and women expect it to come naturally to them and their baby, but the reality is that it doesn't come naturally at all, it's hard work, a colossal commitment and many times you need the help of a professional to get it going well!
Dec 22nd, 2010, 12:57 PM
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nytraveler - not sure if you realize it or not, but you have waded into a minefield. Nursing, to some people, ranks up there with sex, politics, religion and money, as something which they feel passionate about and unlikely to change their mind.
In any case, proponents of nursing will be extremely sensitive to suggestions that it is "insufficient" to sustain an infant. Personally, I nursed exclusively for 4 months, so I know it can work.
In any case, proponents of nursing will be extremely sensitive to suggestions that it is "insufficient" to sustain an infant. Personally, I nursed exclusively for 4 months, so I know it can work.
Dec 22nd, 2010, 02:46 PM
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I promise NOT to mention baby feeding.
I was just thinking that maybe staying in London for your entire time in England, and planning a variety of day trips, might be an easier and more convenient way to do your trip.
You could do London and Paris, and take several days out from London. That way, hauling baby to another town and setting up in yet another hotel won't be an issue.
You can still visit Bath. Trains are just under an hour and a half each way, and very frequent.
I would recommend Salisbury too. But there are tons of places you can easily visit by rail from London.
I was just thinking that maybe staying in London for your entire time in England, and planning a variety of day trips, might be an easier and more convenient way to do your trip.
You could do London and Paris, and take several days out from London. That way, hauling baby to another town and setting up in yet another hotel won't be an issue.
You can still visit Bath. Trains are just under an hour and a half each way, and very frequent.
I would recommend Salisbury too. But there are tons of places you can easily visit by rail from London.
Dec 22nd, 2010, 03:07 PM
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I promise NOT to mention baby feeding. >>
oh go on TFL, the rest of us have.
i do think that it is interesting, that the majority of those who HAVE commented are strongly "pro" brestfeeding. is this a matter of chance [given the size of the sample] or is it a comment on the demographic of fodors contributors?
anyway, Giulia, my recollection from 20+ years ago is that the first month was the worst. that's supposed to be a comfort!
oh go on TFL, the rest of us have.
i do think that it is interesting, that the majority of those who HAVE commented are strongly "pro" brestfeeding. is this a matter of chance [given the size of the sample] or is it a comment on the demographic of fodors contributors?
anyway, Giulia, my recollection from 20+ years ago is that the first month was the worst. that's supposed to be a comfort!
Dec 22nd, 2010, 04:00 PM
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Tuscanlifeedit, I was just thinking that same thing, that maybe it would be best to just day trip in and out of Bath since many contributors seem to think it can be done in a day. I do think it would be easier to just set up one time. We found a nice apartment in South Kensington which we'd get a better deal on if we stayed longer. So I think that's what we'll do.
In regards to breastfeeding, yes, I am starting to see that it is a VERY passionate subject! Funny how our posts can rabbit trail sometimes!!!
In regards to breastfeeding, yes, I am starting to see that it is a VERY passionate subject! Funny how our posts can rabbit trail sometimes!!!
Dec 22nd, 2010, 05:09 PM
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Oh yes, this thread is about GiuliaPiraino's trip, isn't it? I also think it would be good to get settled in London and take day trips as the mood suits you.
Or, as I did once... I rented an apartment in London for a week, packed an overnight bag one day, took the Eurostar to Paris (would be train to Bath for you) and toured for the day, spent the night in a hotel, toured the next day and took the evening Eurostar back to my London apartment the next day. It was wasteful in that I was paying at 2 places for the same night. But, I wanted to see another place, stay longer than just an afternoon, and not have to schlep my luggage and check out and into another place in London. It worked very well under those circumstances.
Or, as I did once... I rented an apartment in London for a week, packed an overnight bag one day, took the Eurostar to Paris (would be train to Bath for you) and toured for the day, spent the night in a hotel, toured the next day and took the evening Eurostar back to my London apartment the next day. It was wasteful in that I was paying at 2 places for the same night. But, I wanted to see another place, stay longer than just an afternoon, and not have to schlep my luggage and check out and into another place in London. It worked very well under those circumstances.
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