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Florence Day Trip Ideas
We will be taking a day trip to Florence arriving from Rome at about 8am. We will be overnighting in Florence as well, leaving first thing the next day to Venice, then back to Rome that evening. Our time is limited. During our day in Florence is it feasible to do the main sites in the city, go to Pisa, AND do a winery tour in the countryside? I’m getting the sense that’s a little much for one day. If it is, what’s the most efficient way to spend one full day in Florence/Tuscany? Thank you for any comments and suggestions! |
Do I understand that you are fitting Florence AND Venice into a one night excursion from Rome??
That's crazy. >>During our day in Florence is it feasible to do the main sites in the city, go to Pisa, AND do a winery tour in the countryside?<< No, it is not. |
You are trying to fit in a week's worth of activities into 36 hours.
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Yes, our time in Italy is limited. We are there for only 6 nights and wanted to get a “taste” of Florence and Venice in 2 days, and Rome the other 4 days. I have read all the threads about indulging oneself into one area for a length of time vs. seeing the highlights in a few different places over a short period of time. Chances are this will be our only trip to Italy. Ive been in contact with Niccoli limousine service in Florence and they offer an 8 hour excursion to Pisa and a couple of wineries. However, we do want to see at least a couple of the main museums (David, etc.) so I think we are going to nix the Pisa excursion. Obviously, there’s so much more to Florence but time and budget will allow this short 24 hour period. Better than not going at all I assume. Any other suggestions for our short stay? |
Yes -- If you simply must see something else/go somewhere other than Rome . . . Do JUST Rome + Florence or Rome + Venice 4 nights in Rome and 2 nights in the other.
BUT I assume you are flying in/out of Rome - right? That means you have to be back in Rome the night before you fly out. So -- on arrival travel immediately to either Florence or Venice, stay 2 nights, train back to Rome, stay 4 nights, fly home. |
I'd take two pieces of paper one with Venice on and one with Florence on. Throw one away. Go where the piece of paper says. If you are very disappointed, go where the thrown piece of paper says. Do not, repeat not, try to do this crazy trip. Only go to one, do not pass Go, do not collect £200.
Or, please advise me I'm going for a taste of USA and I want to spend one day in Boston, one in New York and one in Philly, can you tll me where to go? |
<<Chances are this will be our only trip to Italy. >>
Then don't do it like this. |
well it's certainly doable.
Day 1, arrive at Florence 8am (which means depart Rome ~6am train). Drop off bags at hotel, get to the David by 9am. In the morning, visit the David and that other main museum (Uffizi). Normally it takes about an hr minimum at the David (line, entrance, crowds, etc). You could probably zip through the Uffizi in about 1hr to check it off. Then you'd have time to see the Duomo & baptistry, pop your head into Santa Croce then run across the Ponte Vecchio. Probably no time for shopping. A quick grab n go lunch will save you time as well. Day 2. It's only a 2hr train ride to Venice. So get a 6am train and you'd have a full day in Venice before your 4 hr train ride back to Rome that evening. |
Howman,
Since you are visiting these cities, to get a "taste" of them, how about this: Check out visitacity.com. For each city, plug in the number of days, and a list of sights, average times to see, map, etc. I find it useful. Do walking tours of each city, without visiting the larger museums. Florence is an walking city, so you could easily spend the day visiting the various piazze, the Oltrarno, and perhaps visit the Accademia, and maybe even the Bargello....my fave in Florence. Both are small enough to visit and see some wonders. In Venice, do the same....if it's just a taste...wander, get lost, perhaps visit the Doge's Palace, if time/interest allows. Sign up for a walking tour, for a bit of history and coherency. In Rome, you have four days, so check out visitacity.com. Look at the Rome section. |
Another thought is to cut a day off of Rome and stay overnight in Venice. One of my favorite memories of Venice is being in San Marco square at night when the orchestras are playing - magic!
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IMO -- if you try to squeeze in Venice waking up in Florence and staying that night in Rome -- don't even consider it. You would be there in the middle of the day with every other day tripper and all the thousands of cruise passengers. The city will be VERY crowded and places like San Marco and the Rialto will be a total ZOO.
Do what bilboburgler suggests to pick one -- any means you use, piece of paper, straws, whatever. |
I agree with J62 that this can be done and that it's not crazy, I've done similar "quick glimpses" with visiting friends and relatives and no one has ever thought that it wasn't worth the trip.
However, I wouldn't recommend visiting museums on such a short visit to Florence, unless there's a specific thing that you've been dying to see all your life. When I do a flying visit to Florence, which I may be doing next month with another relative, I focus on a stroll through the historic center, including Piazza della Signoria, Piazza del Duomo, along the Rive Arno, and across the Ponte Vecchio. Depending on the interests of the person, I would include one (at most) quick museum visit, and maybe a few churches. Some of the best art in Florence can be appreciated in its churches, where you can see it in its intended space. Often the perspective of a statue or painting is distorted because it was intended to be seen from below, and seeing it in a museum doesn't give the intended impression. One of my favorite churches to visit on a lightning visit is Santa Maria Novella, which is very near the train station, and which is a treasure box of art by famous Renaisssance artists. Sometimes there are volunteers there who give free tours, and some of them even speak English. (Give an offering to the church maintenance fund to pay for your tour.) It's not worth visiting the interior of the Duomo on such a short trip. There's always a long queue waiting to get in, and there's not a lot to see inside. Also, if you only have a few hours, I would admire the life-size copy of David on the Piazza della Signoria instead of making a reservation to see the original in the Accademia. If you were to visit the original you'd either have to make a reservation in advance, or wait in a very long queue to get in. Fixed reservations don't go well with lightning visits. If you really, really want to visit a museum, two other excellent museums that don't require reservations are the Museum of the Duomo and the Bargello. If you get a ticket for the Museum of the Duomo (sold at a ticket office to the left of the Duomo as you face the entrance), it's good also for various other sights associated with the Duomo. One that I recommend highly is the Baptistery, in front of the Duomo, which has beautiful golden mosaics in the cupola. |
There is an overnight train Venice to Rome - ultimate daytime time saver. But don't leave Venice until about midnight - gets to Rome just after 8am - private compartments - couchettes - regular seats. Save night expense in a hotel. For lots on overnight trains and trains check www.trenitalia.com; www.italotreno.com - 2 competing rail companies using same stations and tracks - both have nice trains - take whatever is cheaper; www.seat61.com; www.budgeteuropetravel.com; www.ricksteves.com.
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As you calculate how much time you actually have in Florence and Venice, keep in mind you'll have luggage. When you arrive in Florence you'll want to leave your luggage at your hotel or the train station (retrieve later that day), and when you get to Venice you'll need to leave your luggage at the train station. Even doing something as simple as this will take a bit of time.
To save time, you could leave your luggage at your Rome hotel and travel super-light, just a backpack with toiletries and a change of clothes. The only downside is that you need to wear/carry the backpack as you sightsee. Assuming this trip falls between early June and mid-November, I agree with janisj that you'll be seeing both cities under the worst conditions. If the day in Florence falls on a Sunday or Monday, lots of main sights may be closed which will further limit your options. |
Your plan is not my style but is possible. I say this as last year when I took a tour to Sorrento and Capri a newly married couple who were honeymooning said this trip was it before they started a family. Since it was the case, they were packing as much as they could in. They based themselves in Rome for a day or two, took our tour of an overnight in Sorrento with Capri back to Rome to catch another tour to Venice for a day then an overnight in Florence then back to Rome to fly home. I guess it worked for them and others with not much time.
As you know, your plan isn't popular but people do it. Given that, cross Pisa off the list. You won't have time if you want to see the main attractions in Florence. Stay in Florence as there is more than enough to do in one day. |
I would cross off both Pisa and the wine tour while in Florence. There is just so much to do in Florence and so much to soak in.
Bvlenci gave you great advice. One addition: There might be less of a line at San Marco the monastery where all the Fra Angelicos are. It's also cool to the paintings in situ. That is, as they were intended. In this case, each monk's cell has a painting for the monk to reflect on. Also, the morning you go to Venice, if you can, set your alarm early and get up and see the Arno before the crowds. I don't know the time for your train ride though. |
The Museum of San Marco, mentioned by 5alive, is one of my favorites in Venice. It's a bit of a walk, as I remember, but if you have time, it's worth it.
5alive's idea of getting up very early on your last day in Florence, to get a glimpse of the Arno river before the hordes of day trippers descend, is also a great idea. That way you can skip the Arno and the Ponte Vecchio on your first day and concentrate on the rest. Usually the Ponte Vecchio is so crowded you can't see the river, and can hardly walk. |
Thank you all for the wealth of information..... Regarding the Accademia Museum, we are a party of 3 with one of us using a knee scooter. If we make a reservation I understand that one other person besides the one with limited mobility will also get in free. My questions are: 1) does this allow us to skip the line? Is one allowed to use a knee scooter in this museum? Is it the same rules as the Vatican Museums? Thank you again! |
Why same rules apply to Vatican and Florence secular museums? I think the only way to find out this for sure is to e-mail the museum. I would be shocked if they did not allow such a thing.
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The usual policy is that disabled people, and one companion, can skip the line.
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When we were in Rome the whole family skipped the line at coliseum with one child in the wheelchair. In Pisa only the wheelchair and my wife were allowed to skip the line. |
Howman37 - With only one overnight stay, I would probably pick Venice over Florence for the single night stay. Don't get me wrong, Florence is wonderful at night, but an overnight in Venice would really let you see a unique city without so many people.
When in comes to important museum reservations, why take the chance of not getting a ticket and reservation for everyone in advance? If this is a once in a lifetime trip, it is worth the small expense. Furthermore, getting a free ticket could be more trouble than it's worth if it includes an additional trip to the admission office etc. instead of just paying for the ticket online. Why take the chance? You might want to read through these comments from another forum: https://community.ricksteves.com/tra...s-for-florence And here is the information from the Vatican Museums about offering free admission to all visitors "with certified invalidity of more than 74%." Accessibility - Vatican Museums Good luck with your decisions! |
Unless the person using the knee scooter can do a little bit of walking, he/she would have a tougher time in Venice than Florence. Venice has lots of bridges with multiple steps up and down. Getting on and off most trains will be difficult as well.
Italy has come a long way in making buildings accessible, but don't expect the degree of accessibility that you'd find in the U.S. because of the ADA. Lots of old buildings just can't be easily adapted. |
When someone has only a few hours in Florence, as this person does, I don't think it's advisable to make any reservations. That doesn't mean I think you should wait in line to get into any museums, Florence has half a dozen extraordinary museums, two of which are much in demand and require reservations if you want to skip the line. Florence also has dozens of churches, where some its most famous art is on display. For maybe two of those reservations are advisable.
My advice on such a short trip is to spend most of your time walking around the center, enjoying the Duomo from the outside, crossing the Ponte Vecchio, and walking along the Arno. This would occupy most of your time, and none of it requires a reservation. You could squeeze in one smaller museum and a few churches, but I recommend skipping anything that requires a reservation. If you have a reservation for something at 4 PM. let's say, your total time is chopped up by the need to get to that place at a specific time. If you'll be spending the night in Florence, I recommend taking a bus in the late afternoon or early evening up to the Basilica of San Miniato, where there are spectacular views of the city, and the 1000-year-old church itself is very beautiful, with a splendid 13th-century mosaic in the apse. San Miniato is higher up than Piazzale Michelangelo, but they're very near one another. Then get up in early the next morning to enjoy the walk along the Arno suggested by 5alive. |
You are so right, Jean! When visiting Venice with my mom, I specifically used a backpack so I could lift and carry my mom's suitcase over all of the bridges. That in itself was pretty challenging. Venice would be quite difficult with a knee scooter on foot. Uff...
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Originally Posted by howman37
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We will be taking a day trip to Florence arriving from Rome at about 8am. We will be overnighting in Florence as well, leaving first thing the next day to Venice, then back to Rome that evening. Our time is limited. During our day in Florence is it feasible to do the main sites in the city, go to Pisa, AND do a winery tour in the countryside? I’m getting the sense that’s a little much for one day. If it is, what’s the most efficient way to spend one full day in Florence/Tuscany? Thank you for any comments and suggestions! Pisa takes at least half day and everything to do is in one place, the tower, the Duomo, the baptistery and the camposanto. ALL worth visiting and you need to book a time to enter the tower. Look for the online site of the tower and you can pay the entrance fees for everything. I went on my way from Florence to Rome. Went by train, arrived 0900 am and at 2pm was taking the train to Rome. And was told Lucca, nearby is also worth visiting, more than Pisa as a town. If you have just ONE day stay in Florence. Go and see The David, you can have an evening free walking tour in Florence. |
A couple of Florence's old markets are worth a quick look:
Florence's Central Market of prepared foods and vegs is interesting to look around and have a cheap lunch of downhome Ialian foods in the restaurant stalls with just a few seats. Good place for picnic stuff too. https://www.yelp.com/biz/mercato-cen...enze-firenze-2 https://www.google.com/search?q=flor...ih=625&dpr=1.5 At the Mercato Nuovo, an ancient market built by Cosmo de Medici that now sells leather good and tourist souvenirs, has one Florence's most famous statues - that of a bronze boar in a tiny fountain that folks throw coins into its jaws - if the coins stay in the jaw you have good luck but if they bounce out of jaw or miss mark it's bad news (see link below) -has become extremely popular and right in historic centre not far from Ponte Vecchio don't miss this delight. The porcellino of Florence, the luckiest Florence attraction |
Originally Posted by bvlenci
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The Museum of San Marco, mentioned by 5alive, is one of my favorites in Venice. It's a bit of a walk, as I remember, but if you have time, it's worth it.
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Originally Posted by Leely2
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I believe this person meant to type Florence, not Venice, as 5alive mentioned the Fra Angelico works in his/her post.
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Pisa's wonders extend far beyond the golden field, much of the city walls and towers are still there north of the river while the town has a number of fine old religious buildings to the North East worth a walk in. I do accept that the area around the railway system is pretty poor. "All in one place" I think not. ;-)
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