Flooding in Germany
Jun 13th, 2013, 08:52 AM
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Flooding in Germany
About a year ago (July) we enjoyed a river cruise with Grand Circle on the Elbe River. Beginning in Prague we boarded a ship at Bad Shandau and then navigated the river to historic and scenic places such as Dresden and Meissen and Wittenberg and on to Hamburg.
I'm dismayed at pictures of Meissen, Prague, Budapest and elsewhere due to the flooding of the Elbe and other rivers. And I'm hoping the waters have receded and damage isn't too great. Anyone have any reports or late news?
Bill in Boston
I'm dismayed at pictures of Meissen, Prague, Budapest and elsewhere due to the flooding of the Elbe and other rivers. And I'm hoping the waters have receded and damage isn't too great. Anyone have any reports or late news?
Bill in Boston
Jun 13th, 2013, 09:08 AM
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The waters have receded in Saxony and already somewhat further downstream.
While none of the bigger cities have been seriously hit, huge parts of several States have been under water and the funding for repairs are estimated at appr. $10bn.
Lots of money will also go into improvement of dams as those who had been fortified after the 2002 record flood did their job, while some older dams failed.
As always with these disasters, some almost funny (not really) stories popped up on the sidelines, like of the affluent riverside neighborhood in (I think) Dresden where residents voted against a barrier wall out of aestetical reasons just to find their villas and gardens now a few feet under water...
While it is still too soon to get a real perspective on the damages, I think it can be said that with just a few days more of that rain, the disaster could have turned into a total nightmare for Dresden and Magdeburg and Halle (all major cities), where the water was only 1-3 inches away from going over the dams...
Still, for those not so fortunate, it is a nightmare.. and a costly one, as not everyone was insured or could get insurance..
While none of the bigger cities have been seriously hit, huge parts of several States have been under water and the funding for repairs are estimated at appr. $10bn.
Lots of money will also go into improvement of dams as those who had been fortified after the 2002 record flood did their job, while some older dams failed.
As always with these disasters, some almost funny (not really) stories popped up on the sidelines, like of the affluent riverside neighborhood in (I think) Dresden where residents voted against a barrier wall out of aestetical reasons just to find their villas and gardens now a few feet under water...
While it is still too soon to get a real perspective on the damages, I think it can be said that with just a few days more of that rain, the disaster could have turned into a total nightmare for Dresden and Magdeburg and Halle (all major cities), where the water was only 1-3 inches away from going over the dams...
Still, for those not so fortunate, it is a nightmare.. and a costly one, as not everyone was insured or could get insurance..
Jun 13th, 2013, 09:35 AM
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Spot on, Cowboy. While the big cities were spared (mostly) the smaller ones were hit very hard. Some small towns like Bad Schandau, Wehlen, Rathen, Königstein or Pirna (all in Saxon Switzerland, where the Elbe is in a very narrow valley, sort of a canyon) cannot be protected - you simply cannot build high enough dams there.
That "affluent" neighbourhood in Dresden you refered to is probably Dresden-Laubegast. I'd say affluent is relative. Not everyone is well-off there, many of the smaller houses are in the same family since many generations back. Building a dam there is a big problem: These houses are only four or five metres from the river, and that room is occupied by the Elbe cycling trail ... Most of these locals are used to the floods and don't complain (much).
That "affluent" neighbourhood in Dresden you refered to is probably Dresden-Laubegast. I'd say affluent is relative. Not everyone is well-off there, many of the smaller houses are in the same family since many generations back. Building a dam there is a big problem: These houses are only four or five metres from the river, and that room is occupied by the Elbe cycling trail ... Most of these locals are used to the floods and don't complain (much).
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Ingo, I hope that you had not been affected or lost property due to the floods.
Rail traffic still is seriously affected by closed bridges and such.
I've hardly ever seen the flights from Munich to Berlin and v.v. so expensive and so packed - as also high speed trains still take time-consuming detours via other bridges (mostly across the Elbe river).
Rail traffic still is seriously affected by closed bridges and such.
I've hardly ever seen the flights from Munich to Berlin and v.v. so expensive and so packed - as also high speed trains still take time-consuming detours via other bridges (mostly across the Elbe river).
Jun 13th, 2013, 09:44 AM
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No, not affected, thank you.
Yep, rail is a problem (bus in Saxon Switzerland, too.)
For anyone traveling Berlin - Dresden - Prague (or vice versa) in the next weeks: Trains use to be 50 minutes late at least, in either direction.
Yep, rail is a problem (bus in Saxon Switzerland, too.)
For anyone traveling Berlin - Dresden - Prague (or vice versa) in the next weeks: Trains use to be 50 minutes late at least, in either direction.
Jun 13th, 2013, 02:47 PM
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"Most of these locals are used to the floods and don't complain (much)."
I come from the Rhine area where in my youth (and probably still today) floodings were quite common. If you're used to them, it's not fun but in the end most people see the repairs as the price you pay for the rest of the time when you enjoy living next to the Rhine.
I come from the Rhine area where in my youth (and probably still today) floodings were quite common. If you're used to them, it's not fun but in the end most people see the repairs as the price you pay for the rest of the time when you enjoy living next to the Rhine.
Jun 29th, 2013, 12:43 AM
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No problem in the big cities. In Dresden e.g. the annual festival along the riverside from Loschwitz to Pillnitz (Elbhangfest) takes place just as planned this weekend.
No problems in Prague, either. And not in Budapest as far as I know.
The small towns along the Elbe river that were flooded struggle hard, though. Many hotels and restaurants right by the river are closed for renovation for a couple of months. In my area the National Park Saxon Switzerland is severely affected, for example. Bad Schandau, Rathen, Königstein (the town, not the fortress), Wehlen. In the Czech Republic Hrensko in Bohemian Switzerland e.g. is sort of dead at the moment and for the next couple of months, I think. But again, this concerns the places right in the valley only - 95% of the hiking trails etc. are fine.
No problems in Prague, either. And not in Budapest as far as I know.
The small towns along the Elbe river that were flooded struggle hard, though. Many hotels and restaurants right by the river are closed for renovation for a couple of months. In my area the National Park Saxon Switzerland is severely affected, for example. Bad Schandau, Rathen, Königstein (the town, not the fortress), Wehlen. In the Czech Republic Hrensko in Bohemian Switzerland e.g. is sort of dead at the moment and for the next couple of months, I think. But again, this concerns the places right in the valley only - 95% of the hiking trails etc. are fine.
Jun 29th, 2013, 01:41 AM
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We were in Budapest first week of June. High water shut down river traffic bythe end of the week and a few train stops were closed, plus no going to Margaret Island but the city escaped any serious damage I understand. Szentendre upriver looked to be in more peril. Hope they escaped damage, too.
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I arrived in Europe on June 14 and traveled to Budapest, Vienna, and Prague. Things looked normal, for the most part. We did have interrupted train service (due to flooding) on our trip from Budapest to Vienna and had to ride a bus for about an hour.
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